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Obama warned 3 times within the last year about ISIS
« on: September 29, 2014, 08:02:07 PM »
http://news.yahoo.com/3-times-obama-administration-warned-isis-threat-192100956.html

Looks like the intelligence community wasnt the problem here afterall....

In his "60 Minutes" interview, President Obama seemed to put the blame on the intelligence community, saying, “I think they underestimated what had been taking place in Syria.”

But for nearly a year, senior officials in the U.S. government have been warning about the alarming rise of ISIS, or ISIL as the terrorist group is also known, and the inability of the Iraqi government to confront the threat.

Here are three examples:



BRETT MCGURK
Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Iraq and Iran

On Nov. 14, 2013, State Department official Brett McGurk testified before a House Foreign Affairs subcommittee extensively about the growing threat of ISIL/ISIS.

“We face a real problem,” McGurk said. “There is no question that ISIL is growing roots in Syria and in Iraq.”

McGurk was quite specific about the extent of the threat. He cited the group’s alarming campaign of suicide bombings, its growing financial resources and its expanding safe haven in Syria.

“We have seen upwards of 40 suicide bombers per month targeting playgrounds, mosques, and markets, in addition to government sites from Basra to Baghdad to Erbil,” he said.

He was also specific about the inability of the Iraqi government to deal with it.

“AQ/ISIL has benefited from a permissive operating environment due to inherent weaknesses of Iraqi security forces, poor operational tactics, and popular grievances, which remain unaddressed, among the population in Anbar and Nineva provinces.”



ROBERT BEECROFT
U.S. Ambassador to Iraq

In January, ISIS/ISIL gave a strong indication of just how much of a threat they posed when the group took over the Iraqi city of Fallujah and part of Ramadi. At that point, U.S. Ambassador to Iraq Robert Beecroft said it could get a whole lot worse.

“It's a very precarious situation,” Beercroft told ABC News’ Martha Raddatz. “And a misstep anywhere could set off a larger conflict in the country.”



Lt. Gen. MICHAEL FLYNN
U.S. Army Director, Defense Intelligence Agency

On Feb. 11, 2014, the Pentagon’s top intelligence official, Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, warned the group would likely attempt to take over even more territory.

“ISIL probably will attempt to take territory in Iraq and Syria to exhibit its strength in 2014, as demonstrated recently in Ramadi and Fallujah, and the group’s ability to concurrently maintain multiple safe havens in Syria,” Flynn told the Senate Armed Services Committee.

That’s a prediction, unfortunately, that proved to be right on target.

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Re: Obama warned 3 times within the last year about ISIS
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2014, 08:06:03 PM »
Good grief.  You know, this actually might be news to the president given that he skips intelligence briefings and is so disengaged.   :-\

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Re: Obama warned 3 times within the last year about ISIS
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2014, 10:37:40 PM »
Where is 240 with the excuses?

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Re: Obama warned 3 times within the last year about ISIS
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2014, 04:43:22 AM »
Where is 240 with the excuses?

had the repubs possessed the fcking balls to IMPEACH OBAMA months ago, when public support was high and the F&F/Benghazi smoking guns were sitting there, then we woudln't be talking about obama's inability to stop ISIS.

You OWN everything obama does now.  EVERYONE that was against impeachment, this is your shit pile now.  You wanted this beccause, "hey, we might win some more seats in 2014 ,I heard it on Rush".

If 240 had his way, obama would be out of office right now.
But coach, rush, reince priebus had their way, and he's still in office, still ignoring important details like the growth of ISIS. 

So before you ask 240 to excuse this inexcusable behavior by Obama, you might want to see which of us wanted obama impeached.  And which one of us traded justice for possible political gain.  I said it back then, you OWN everyhing bullshit move obama does now.  For the next 28 months.  You wanted him, you got him.

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Re: Obama warned 3 times within the last year about ISIS
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2014, 05:59:15 AM »
had the repubs possessed the fcking balls to IMPEACH OBAMA months ago, when public support was high and the F&F/Benghazi smoking guns were sitting there, then we woudln't be talking about obama's inability to stop ISIS.

You OWN everything obama does now.  EVERYONE that was against impeachment, this is your shit pile now.  You wanted this beccause, "hey, we might win some more seats in 2014 ,I heard it on Rush".

If 240 had his way, obama would be out of office right now.
But coach, rush, reince priebus had their way, and he's still in office, still ignoring important details like the growth of ISIS. 

So before you ask 240 to excuse this inexcusable behavior by Obamaed, you might want to see which of us wanted obama impeached.  And which one of us traded justice for possible political gain.  I said it back then, you OWN everyhing bullshit move obama does now.  For the next 28 months.  You wanted him, you got him.

Repeating myself is useless. You fucked up 6 years ago when you voted for him (twice) and even though warned, didn't bother to listen. Your sarcastic spin posts are getting ridiculous. Why did you vote for him in the first place?


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Re: Obama warned 3 times within the last year about ISIS
« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2014, 06:16:19 AM »
I don't think Obama is a drooling retard.  The conclusion I've come to is he's just not very knowledgeable or interested in foreign policy and neither are the people around him.  Mentioning Ferguson at the UN reveals the issues most important to Obama.
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Re: Obama warned 3 times within the last year about ISIS
« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2014, 03:11:37 PM »
had the repubs possessed the fcking balls to IMPEACH OBAMA months ago, when public support was high and the F&F/Benghazi smoking guns were sitting there, then we woudln't be talking about obama's inability to stop ISIS.

You OWN everything obama does now.  EVERYONE that was against impeachment, this is your shit pile now.  You wanted this beccause, "hey, we might win some more seats in 2014 ,I heard it on Rush".

If 240 had his way, obama would be out of office right now.
But coach, rush, reince priebus had their way, and he's still in office, still ignoring important details like the growth of ISIS. 

So before you ask 240 to excuse this inexcusable behavior by Obama, you might want to see which of us wanted obama impeached.  And which one of us traded justice for possible political gain.  I said it back then, you OWN everyhing bullshit move obama does now.  For the next 28 months.  You wanted him, you got him.

What was that statement you made on GetBig after Obama won the first time?  Was it: "We changed the World!!"?

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Re: Obama warned 3 times within the last year about ISIS
« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2014, 04:05:30 PM »
What was that statement you made on GetBig after Obama won the first time?  Was it: "We changed the World!!"?
sounds about right

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Re: Obama warned 3 times within the last year about ISIS
« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2014, 05:42:33 AM »
Unamed Pentagon Official: The President is lying to America
The Daily Caller ^  | 10-1-14 | "Joseph Miller"

Posted on ‎10‎/‎1‎/‎2014‎ ‎8‎:‎27‎:‎03‎ ‎AM by afraidfortherepublic

Joseph Miller is the pen name for a ranking Department of Defense official with a background in U.S. special operations and combat experience in Iraq and Afghanistan. He has worked in strategic planning.

President Barack Obama has taken a lot of flack since his Sunday night “60 Minutes” interview, in which he blamed the intelligence community for his failure to tackle the threat posed by the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria. And that is right and proper. Because not only was his excuse of blaming us a lie, but when questioned on his lie, White House press secretary Josh Earnest doubled down with a whole new lie — both of which are easily, publicly proven false.

On Sunday, Obama said the intelligence community had underestimated the rise of ISIS, saying in an interview with CBS, “Our head of the intelligence community, Jim Clapper, has acknowledged that, I think, they underestimated what had been taking place in Syria.”

But we know that isn’t true, as nearly a dozen administration officials have testified to the threat posed by ISIS publicly over the last year.

The fact that the president chose to use the word “they” instead of “we” immediately drew condemnation from friend and foe alike, who saw it as the president’s attempt to pass the buck. (RELATED: Obama Has Spent More Time Playing Golf Than In Intel Briefings)

To mitigate the fallout, Earnest’s office issued a statement stating that, “…A lot of that [decision-making] was predicated on the will of the Iraqi security forces to fight for their country.”

But this was also not true.

In 2010, General Lloyd Austin, then-commander of United State Forces in Iraq, directly informed the president that over 20,000 U.S. troops would be required to maintain the gains made by U.S. forces against al-Qaida and its affiliates, and to mentor the fledgling Iraqi security forces– because he knew they were not ready to go out on their own. (MILLER: The Facts Are In, And Obama’s Policy Is A Direct Danger To The United States)

But in order for Austin’s plan to work, the United States would have to negotiate and sign a security agreement with the government of Iraq to give the U.S. legal authority to keep U.S. military forces in that country beyond December 2010. The White House claims they were forced to withdraw because then-Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki refused to grant U.S. force serving in Iraq post 2010 immunity from Iraqi prosecution– a prerequisite for the presence of U.S. forces anywhere else in the world. But the administration made no attempt to seriously negotiate an agreement with the Iraqis, and cited our withdrawal from Iraq as a major achievement during the 2012 elections, giving the American intelligence community the distinct feeling that the move was politically motivated. (MILLER: Obama’s Current Strategy Is Doomed To Fail)

Instead of investing any time in negotiating the agreement, the Obama administration used the Maliki regimes refusal to grant immunity as a political out for withdrawing all U.S. combat forces from Iraq by the end of 2010. That saw the immediate withdrawal of U.S. forces and the end of Operation New Dawn, the successor to Operation Iraqi Freedom. It also saw the rise of ISIS, and brings us to where we are today. (MILLER: What It Will Take To Win The War Against The Islamic State)

Today, Gen. Lloyd Austin is in command of U.S. Central Command– the U.S. combatant command in charge of fighting all wars in the Middle East, Central Asia and parts of North and East Africa. From that post, he once again recommended to the president that ground forces would be required in order to achieve the White House’s goals, this time against ISIS in Syria and Iraq. (MILLER: Iraq A Symptom Of Larger Obama Failure — Syria)

Once again, the president overruled his commanding general and has chosen to use air strikes alone to “destroy” a terrorist army of 30,000.

The president clearly does not think the mission is worth the cost necessary to complete it; but by pursuing his ends without authorizing the necessary means, he is dooming that mission to failure. (MILLER: Special Forces, Not #Hashtags, Mr. President.

The United States military and intelligence community have learned a lot over the past decade of conflict. Our commander in chief, unfortunately, has not. Since the start of his administration, President Barack Obama has ignored his generals and the intelligence community. Over the past few weeks, he has half-heartedly pursued a strategy that destines us to fail in our mission, and over the past three days, he and his White House have lied to prove otherwise. To those who wear our nation’s uniform, or serve in her intelligence community, that’s insult — and injury.

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Re: Obama warned 3 times within the last year about ISIS
« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2014, 04:44:39 AM »
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Townhall.com ^ | 10-2-2014 | Derek Hunter
Posted on October 2, 2014 at 5:26:29 AM EDT by servo1969

There is a ghost in the White House, a spirit disconnected from this world, whisking from room to room, past staff, uninterested in their conversations. Unfortunately for us, the ghost is the president of the United States.

Barack Obama loves being president – the perks, the privilege, the pomp and circumstance. It’s the job that bores him. Unlike community organizing, the Illinois State Senate, or even the U.S. Senate, there’s only one president. They can’t just show up when they want or bleed into the background when they’d rather be doing other things.

President Obama loves the campaign trail. He performs a substance-free partisan attack speech written by snarky young staffers better than any recent occupant of the Oval Office. But those speechwriters aren’t serious people. They’re smartasses better suited for Twitter, not the seat of power. As such, when it comes to serious issues of foreign policy, the speeches give us nothing but vacant platitudes when what we need is serious thoughtfulness.

Ask yourself this: Have you heard Barack Obama deliver a serious, substantive foreign policy speech? Not a recap of what is already known, but a practical speech laying out principles, practical goals and the means by which to achieve them? Obama’s “ISIS strategy” speech last month was devoid of anything, even inspiring words, beyond what anyone who’d read a couple of Associated Press stories on the subject could’ve written.

A president knowledgeable and interested in the job and the subject would recognize this and demand others, maybe adults, craft a speech designed to inform and rally the American people to his side. Obama’s failure to do so shows either he doesn’t know or he doesn’t care.

Not knowing or not caring was on full display on Sunday when President Obama sat down with Steve Croft of 60 Minutes. When he was asked how ISIS managed to control so much without his knowing, and was it a surprise to him, Obama gave a very “Obama” answer.

“Well, I think our head of the intelligence community, Jim Clapper, has acknowledged that I think they underestimated what had been taking place in Syria,” he said.

Barack Obama didn’t fail; James Clapper and the intelligence community did.

But James Clapper didn’t call ISIS the “jayvee team” just nine months ago; Barack Obama did. That was the president acknowledging the existence of ISIS and the fact that they’d just captured the major Iraqi city of Fallujah. Between then and September, did President Obama not receive any follow-up briefings on their progress? Did he ask no questions on their advances and barbarism? Was he not informed they held westerners, including Americans, hostage?

We know that’s not true, because after the beheading of journalist James Foley, the White House leaked that Obama had authorized a rescue attempt, after dithering for months.

So what kind of surprise could ISIS have been to the president if in July he’d sent the military into Syria because they were threatening Americans? None, really.

On Monday, Jon Karl of ABC News asked about how Obama could have been surprised by ISIS when so many intelligence officers had made public statements about their growth and spread starting last November. He asked, “So these warnings that came, to the U.S. ambassador in Baghdad, to Iraq, he made similar warnings on the news, DHS officials, did the president hear this, did he know? You mentioned Clapper, so we know he listened to Clapper, the head of the DNI. Did he know what these other top officials in his own administration were saying about the threat from ISIL, did he hear what I just read to you?”

Josh Earnest, White House press secretary, responded, “I assume what you read to me was congressional testimony. There are a lot of public statements about this. I'm not going to get into what sort of private conversations the president had with his, with the intelligence community.”

So there were plenty of warnings, plenty of people in the intelligence community funneling information to the White House, and either the president knew and didn’t care, or he didn’t care to know.

The only other alternative is this information was not included in the President’s Daily Brief and James Clapper, the Director of National Intelligence, willfully withheld this important information from the president of the United States. In which case he should be fired immediately.

That not having happened, it leaves us only with the aforementioned “either/or” situation.

It’s been reported that Barack Obama had all this information and more in his Daily Brief for 18 months, including options for wiping out the leadership of both ISIS and the Khorasan group—all of which were rejected out of hand. That leaves only the “or”—that he doesn’t care. A case bolstered by his attending only 42 percent of his daily security briefings.

The ghost in the Oval Office will occupy that space until January 2017, but his failures as a leader and disinterest in leadership will haunt this country long after he departs.

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Re: Obama warned 3 times within the last year about ISIS
« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2014, 05:59:59 AM »
The idiotintheovaloffice uses "we" to take credit for successes that were accomplished in spite of him, but uses "they" for every single one of his failures and to explain away his incompetence.

It must be Bush's fault.

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Re: Obama warned 3 times within the last year about ISIS
« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2015, 07:04:29 AM »
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Re: Obama warned 3 times within the last year about ISIS
« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2015, 08:43:18 AM »
What was that statement you made on GetBig after Obama won the first time?  Was it: "We changed the World!!"?

Did he really say that?

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Re: Obama warned 3 times within the last year about ISIS
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Re: Obama warned 3 times within the last year about ISIS
« Reply #16 on: February 05, 2015, 08:55:16 AM »
Yes he did

An Obama cheerleader from day one.

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Re: Obama warned 3 times within the last year about ISIS
« Reply #17 on: February 05, 2015, 11:32:17 AM »
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/09/29/Report-Obama-Has-Missed-Over-Half-His-Second-Term-Daily-Intel-Briefings



Typical of a lazy drug addicted punk ass

Thats a fucking disgrace >:(

Finally a valid argument. Good stuff SouC.

Is the source legit? What is Breibart's reputation?

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Re: Obama warned 3 times within the last year about ISIS
« Reply #18 on: February 05, 2015, 11:33:10 AM »
typical towel headed muslim
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Re: Obama warned 3 times within the last year about ISIS
« Reply #19 on: February 05, 2015, 01:41:28 PM »


SecDef nominee was getting grilled on ISIS, but what can really do?  Only boots on the ground (IMO) can really eradicate these nuts and I don't think most people - conservative or liberal - has the stomach for that.

Lean on other Islamic nations or give them weapons may help, but even they don't always much care for us.  It's not like Jordan has any love for us.

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Re: Obama warned 3 times within the last year about ISIS
« Reply #20 on: February 05, 2015, 02:06:20 PM »
ISIS has claimed that ar-Raqqa in Syria is their capital.

Why don't we wipe that off the map.  We didn't seem to have any qualms about civilian deaths in Japan and Germany during WWII.

I'm sure there are all kinds of political reasons why we can't do this but we really should just do it anyway.

The civilians in that town are already held hostage by these nuts (or actively support them) and I'm sure some would survive but ISIS would no longer have a capital

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Re: Obama warned 3 times within the last year about ISIS
« Reply #21 on: February 05, 2015, 02:15:47 PM »
ISIS has claimed that ar-Raqqa in Syria is their capital.

Why don't we wipe that off the map.  We didn't seem to have any qualms about civilian deaths in Japan and Germany during WWII.

I'm sure there are all kinds of political reasons why we can't do this but we really should just do it anyway.

The civilians in that town are already held hostage by these nuts and I'm sure some would survive but ISIS would no longer have a capital

Because obama protects his own. He's one of them.

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Re: Obama warned 3 times within the last year about ISIS
« Reply #22 on: February 05, 2015, 02:18:44 PM »
Because obama protects his own. He's one of them.

And you're a certified moron

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Re: Obama warned 3 times within the last year about ISIS
« Reply #23 on: February 05, 2015, 02:28:50 PM »
Because obama protects his own. He's one of them.

You don't support impeaching a member of ISIS (Obama).

Explain yourself - why would you support a terrorist running the USA?

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Re: Obama warned 3 times within the last year about ISIS
« Reply #24 on: February 05, 2015, 02:34:41 PM »
And you're a certified moron

you're a certified twatwaffle
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