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« Reply #350 on: October 25, 2014, 09:07:52 AM »
Hospital staffers reportedly take sick day rather than treat New York’s first Ebola patient

New York City's first Ebola patient is prompting frightened staffers tasked with his treatment at the city-run hospital in Manhattan to call in sick, according to a published report.

The New York Post reported Saturday that an "extraordinary number" of Bellevue Hospital staffers took a sick day Friday rather than treat Dr. Craig Spencer. And those who reported for work were petrified at having to enter his isolation ward, the paper added, citing sources.

"The nurses on the floor are miserable with a 'why me?' attitude, scared to death and overworked because all their co-workers called out sick," one source told the Post. "One nurse even went as far as to pretend she was having a stroke to get out of working there, but once they cleared her in the ER they sent her back," the source also told the paper.

But a spokeswoman for the public hospital denied there was any sickout. Ana Marengo told the Post the nurses treating the Doctors Without Borders volunteer are working in teams of two, "with one serving as a buddy watching the other."

The Post said Spencer, who is in stable condition, has been playing an active role in his recovery, putting his medical skills to use, lecturing the staff about proper treatment.

"As a doctor, he knows a lot about medicine, so he would call the nurse's station all day and going back and forth the doctors on what to do," the source told the Post.

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« Reply #351 on: October 25, 2014, 09:53:59 AM »
Obama voters - F em

Hospital staffers reportedly take sick day rather than treat New York’s first Ebola patient

New York City's first Ebola patient is prompting frightened staffers tasked with his treatment at the city-run hospital in Manhattan to call in sick, according to a published report.

The New York Post reported Saturday that an "extraordinary number" of Bellevue Hospital staffers took a sick day Friday rather than treat Dr. Craig Spencer. And those who reported for work were petrified at having to enter his isolation ward, the paper added, citing sources.

"The nurses on the floor are miserable with a 'why me?' attitude, scared to death and overworked because all their co-workers called out sick," one source told the Post. "One nurse even went as far as to pretend she was having a stroke to get out of working there, but once they cleared her in the ER they sent her back," the source also told the paper.

But a spokeswoman for the public hospital denied there was any sickout. Ana Marengo told the Post the nurses treating the Doctors Without Borders volunteer are working in teams of two, "with one serving as a buddy watching the other."

The Post said Spencer, who is in stable condition, has been playing an active role in his recovery, putting his medical skills to use, lecturing the staff about proper treatment.

"As a doctor, he knows a lot about medicine, so he would call the nurse's station all day and going back and forth the doctors on what to do," the source told the Post.

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Re: Ebola has come to America - CDC confirms first case.
« Reply #352 on: October 27, 2014, 05:23:49 AM »
Free Ebola: Obama Demands End to State Ebola Quarantines
Frontpage Mag ^  | 10/25/2014 | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on ‎10‎/‎26‎/‎2014‎ ‎10‎:‎35‎:‎35‎ ‎PM by SeekAndFind

It’s bad enough that Obama rejects an Ebola travel ban because he thinks we need more Ebola, but he’s attacking Democrats and Republicans who are doing the responsible thing by enacting quarantines.


The Obama administration has been pushing the governors of New York and New Jersey to reverse their decision ordering all medical workers returning from West Africa who had contact with Ebola patients to be quarantined, an administration official said on Sunday.

But both governors, Andrew M. Cuomo of New York and Chris Christie of New Jersey, stood by their decision, saying that the federal guidelines did not go far enough.

“It’s too serious a situation to leave it to the honor system of compliance,” Cuomo said of the decision.

Ever since Mr. Cuomo, a Democrat, and Mr. Christie, a Republican, announced the plan at a hastily called news conference on Friday evening, top administration officials have been speaking with Mr. Cuomo daily and have also been in touch with Mr. Christie, trying to get them to rescind the order.

But in that time, two more states – Illinois and Florida – announced that they were instituting similar policies.

A senior administration official, who did not want to be identified in order to discuss private conversations with state officials on the issue, called the decision by the governors “uncoordinated, very hurried, an immediate reaction to the New York City case that doesn’t comport with science.”

What exactly is that anonymous official’s background in science? Same as Joe Biden’s Chief of Staff/Obama’s Ebola Czar?

Quarantining people who are potentially infected doesn’t comport with science? Please tell me more, Guy Who Got This Job Because He’s the Brother in Law of a Campaign Donor.


The decision to institute a mandatory quarantine came after a New York doctor, Craig Spencer, received a diagnosis of Ebola on Thursday, having contracted the virus while working in Guinea for Doctors Without Borders. He is being treated at Bellevue Hospital Center, where his condition has worsened, an expected development as the virus replicates and spreads through his body.

But it wouldn’t be a media pile on without the usual idiot showing up to fight a travel ban.


Dr. Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute for Allergies and Infectious Disease, said it was vital not to do anything that might interfere with the flow of health workers to West Africa.

“The harm is that it is totally disruptive of their life. We want them to go because they are helping us to protect America to be over there,” Dr. Fauci said on CNN.

No they’re not. They’re helping Africa. And that may be a noble thing, but it’s endangering America.

Obama doesn’t prioritize America over Africa. American leaders should.



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« Reply #355 on: October 27, 2014, 07:03:30 AM »
...and I hope we continue to have this stupid conversation and nobody else dies. I'm glad New York is doing what its doing. The major concern now is that something will happen in latin America, specifically central America where they can't deal with it and cause a flood of 3rd worlders coming across the boarder.
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« Reply #356 on: October 27, 2014, 07:59:34 AM »
so.. where are we at with this US death toll?
Hey you fng leftists retard - the point is to not allow what happened in the failed fucking disaster that is known as AFRICAN'T! 

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« Reply #357 on: October 27, 2014, 08:00:49 AM »
Hey you fng leftists retard - the point is to not allow what happened in the failed fucking disaster that is known as AFRICAN'T! 

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« Reply #358 on: October 27, 2014, 08:14:10 AM »
oh ok cool

Again - Ebola - Obama ?  WTF is the difference?

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« Reply #359 on: October 27, 2014, 08:30:13 AM »
Again - Ebola - Obama ?  WTF is the difference?

cool story bro

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« Reply #360 on: October 27, 2014, 08:35:12 AM »
cool story bro

Only difference is an "E" -  ;D

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Re: Ebola has come to America - CDC confirms first case.
« Reply #361 on: October 27, 2014, 08:57:18 AM »
Obama Health Official: Ebola Can Spread Through Bus Sweat
The Daily Caller ^  | 10/27/14 | Patrick Howley

Posted on ‎10‎/‎27‎/‎2014‎ ‎11‎:‎21‎:‎20‎ ‎AM by Enlightened1

Department of Health and Human Services Assistant Secretary Dr. Nicole Lurie said in sworn testimony that Ebola can spread through perspiration left on a bus seat.


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« Reply #363 on: October 27, 2014, 10:05:07 AM »
Dude, there are many viruses that have no cure for example rabies, it has a vaccine, like Ebola will likely have. However in areas with high amounts of zoonosis you see rabies killing people and children brutally.

Ebola has been around for a while, I bet there have been cases before, it would look like other hemmorhhagic fevers, we would never test for it.

You didn't criticize obama for not closing the borders etc?

You are comparing Ebola to rabies?  Seriously? 

What are you asking about regarding the borders?  If you're talking about illegal immigration, then of course I have criticized him for failing to do his job.  If you're talking about travel bans, then I haven't taken a position on that.  I don't know what I think about a travel ban. 

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« Reply #364 on: October 27, 2014, 10:11:47 AM »
If you're talking about illegal immigration, then of course I have criticized him for failing to do his job.  If you're talking about travel bans, then I haven't taken a position on that.  I don't know what I think about a travel ban. 

Frankly, most in congress (in BOTH parties) feel the same way.  Most of them won't take a position.  It's a week before elections, and an outbreak sinks those who were against it... and a sudden dump in economy (or whatever other ripple effects from limiting national admission).

NOBODY in congress wants to make waves right now.   Same on ISIS.   Just chill and wait til elections pass, then backseat-drive on whichever way the wind has blown with public opinion.

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« Reply #365 on: October 27, 2014, 10:49:48 AM »
You are comparing Ebola to rabies?  Seriously? 

What are you asking about regarding the borders?  If you're talking about illegal immigration, then of course I have criticized him for failing to do his job.  If you're talking about travel bans, then I haven't taken a position on that.  I don't know what I think about a travel ban. 

Rabies is a more deadly virus, that's for sure.  maybe you are unaware of the lives it took before vaccination or how many it still takes. Once infected you are dead, 100% fatality, there is nothing you can do unless you catch it right away. It's also another zoonotic disease so it compares well. these people are eating bush meat aka the resevoir and getting sick, it rarely jumps without this,somewhat like rabies. It's not a crazy comparison and I was using it to highlight that this is not the most deadly virus on earth, it just isnt'.

What about the comparison is off? rabies is the worst way you can die, it's seriously vile. it kills tens of thousands of people each year.

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« Reply #366 on: October 27, 2014, 10:55:23 AM »
Rabies is a more deadly virus, that's for sure.  maybe you are unaware of the lives it took before vaccination or how many it still takes. Once infected you are dead, 100% fatality, there is nothing you can do unless you catch it right away. It's also another zoonotic disease so it compares well. these people are eating bush meat aka the resevoir and getting sick, it rarely jumps without this,somewhat like rabies. It's not a crazy comparison and I was using it to highlight that this is not the most deadly virus on earth, it just isnt'.

What about the comparison is off? rabies is the worst way you can die, it's seriously vile. it kills tens of thousands of people each year.

So does Obamadosis

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« Reply #367 on: October 27, 2014, 12:50:17 PM »
Rabies is a more deadly virus, that's for sure.  maybe you are unaware of the lives it took before vaccination or how many it still takes. Once infected you are dead, 100% fatality, there is nothing you can do unless you catch it right away. It's also another zoonotic disease so it compares well. these people are eating bush meat aka the resevoir and getting sick, it rarely jumps without this,somewhat like rabies. It's not a crazy comparison and I was using it to highlight that this is not the most deadly virus on earth, it just isnt'.

What about the comparison is off? rabies is the worst way you can die, it's seriously vile. it kills tens of thousands of people each year.

I just read this:

"The number of rabies-related human deaths in the United States has declined from more than 100 annually at the turn of the century to one or two per year in the 1990's. Modern day prophylaxis has proven nearly 100% successful."

http://www.cdc.gov/rabies/location/usa/index.html?s_cid=cs_521

Not a good comparison mang. 

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« Reply #368 on: October 27, 2014, 12:51:55 PM »
I just read this:

"The number of rabies-related human deaths in the United States has declined from more than 100 annually at the turn of the century to one or two per year in the 1990's. Modern day prophylaxis has proven nearly 100% successful."

http://www.cdc.gov/rabies/location/usa/index.html?s_cid=cs_521

Not a good comparison mang. 

In the cult of FAILBAMA - its totally ok to bring in new diseases to USA so as to appease the radical left. 

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« Reply #369 on: October 27, 2014, 01:47:38 PM »
Ebola victim Thomas Eric Duncan LIED to Dallas hospital staff about his exposure to virus..
Daily Mail ^  | October 27, 2014 | Michael Zennie

Posted on ‎10‎/‎27‎/‎2014‎ ‎2‎:‎30‎:‎43‎ ‎PM by CivilWarBrewing

•Sidia Rose says Duncan lied to her about caring for a pregnant woman who later died of the disease when she first questioned about it
•He later admitted to taking care of someone who died in Liberia, but then denied the story to Texas public health officials
•Rose says she was terrified of taking care of Duncan, but did so anyway
•Duncan died October 8, but not before infecting two of his nurses at Texas Health Presbyterian
•Amber Vinson and Nina Pham are now free of the disease 



Thomas Eric Duncan lied about his exposure to Ebola to hospital staff and to public health officials, even as he was suffering from projectile vomiting and other symptoms of the horrific disease at Texas Presbyterian, an emergency room nurse has revealed.



Duncan initially claimed that he had not been around anyone who had died when he was in Liberia after he was admitted to the Dallas Hospital last month, Sidia Rose told '60 Minutes' on CBS.


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« Reply #370 on: October 27, 2014, 02:07:12 PM »
In the cult of FAILBAMA - its totally ok to bring in new diseases to USA so as to appease the radical left. 

every liberal I know hopes the US is wiped out by bubonic plague, Ebola or fiscal collapse.   

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« Reply #371 on: October 27, 2014, 03:11:41 PM »
9 Reasons to Fear Ebola
Monday, 27 Oct 2014
By Nick Tate

The Obama administration and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention have moved to tamp down worries over Ebola even as the number of cases continues to accelerate. However, many doctors and researchers say there are ominous signs about what the future holds regarding the deadly virus.

Here, according to health experts, are nine reasons to fear Ebola:

1.   U.S. hospitals are unprepared.

A new survey found that 94 percent of American hospitals are unprepared for an Ebola patient. Of 1,039 medical centers surveyed, only about 6 percent said they were "well-prepared," according to the Association for Professionals in Infection Control and Epidemiology.

"The results of the poll paint a disturbing picture, and point to an urgent need to bolster infection prevention resources in healthcare facilities," Katrina Crist, CEO of APIC, said during a press conference announcing the results.

2. One form of Ebola has already mutated to an airborne disease.

David Sanders, associate professor of biological sciences at Purdue University who has done extensive Ebola research, notes that the strain of the virus at the center of the outbreak in West Africa can only be spread by exposure to bodily fluids. But Sanders tells Newsmax that Ebola does have the potential to mutate so that it can spread by air like a cold or flu.

In fact, this has already happened with one strain of the virus, Ebola-Reston, that is not involved in the current outbreak. This disease came to Reston, Virginia., in 1989, when a shipment of infected macaques was imported from the Philippines. The disease spread from the macaques to other monkeys housed at a quarantine facility. The infected monkeys all died and four workers at the quarantine facility tested positive for the disease.

The workers never got sick and Ebola-Reston turned out to be the only one of the five forms of Ebola not harmful to humans. But it does show that a virus in the Ebola family can be spread through the air, Sanders says.

3. There is huge potential for spread in Asia.

Health experts are especially concerned that the longer the Ebola outbreak rages in West Africa, the greater chance a traveler infected with the virus will touch down in Asia, a region where billions live in poverty, in crowded conditions, and with public health systems that are often very weak.

"This is a nontreatable disease with a very high mortality rate. And even a country like the United States has not been able to completely prevent it," said Yatin Mehta, a critical care specialist at the Medanta Medicity hospital near New Delhi, India. "The [India] government is trying. They are preparing and they are training, but our record of disaster management has been very poor in the past."

4. The CDC predicts 1.4 million cases by January.

The number of Ebola cases could reach 1.4 million in West Africa by the end of January, according to the CDC. To put this in perspective, an equivalent rate in the U.S. population would be almost 45 million people nationally.

CDC Director Dr. Thomas Frieden warned this month that Ebola is spreading so rapidly it could become a global pandemic to rival AIDS if it is not contained.

5. Ebola is transmissible by droplets.

The CDC notes that Ebola is not spread through the air like the cold or flu. But it may be spread via airborne "droplets" from an infected person to another in close proximity.

Here’s the difference between the two modes of transmission:

Airborne transmission: This can occur when virus particles are discharged into the air and remain for long periods of time. Droplet particles from a cold or flu, for instance, can survive for long time periods outside the body and on dry surfaces. Infected particles can enter via the lungs of a healthy person, causing the disease. Ebola is not spread this way.

Droplet-contact transmission: This occurs when larger droplets of virus-laden mucus or saliva are discharged into the air such as from a sneeze and come into direct contact with the nose, mouth, or eyes of a healthy person, causing infection. This type of transmission occurs when proximity is very close (within 3 feet). Ebola can potentially be spread this way, experts believe, perhaps on planes or other types of public transportation.

6. The incubation period is long.

The time it takes a person exposed to Ebola to suffer symptoms and become contagious can range from two to 21 days. What’s more, new research suggests the 21-day quarantine recommended by the CDC for Ebola patients to minimize the risk of spreading the virus may be too short.

A Drexel University study concludes that 21 days might not be enough to completely prevent the spread of the virus, estimating a 12 percent chance that someone could be infected even after the three-week quarantine.

7. Health workers have been infected despite protective equipment.

Many healthcare workers who have been treating Ebola victims — including 16 members of the Doctors Without Borders staff — have contracted the virus even though they have followed established guidelines for wearing protective suits, masks, gloves, and other equipment.

Even the makers of such specialized equipment say it doesn’t offer 100 percent protection. In addition, donning and removing protective suits and masks can be tricky, experts say.

8. The Ebola virus can live up to 50 days on certain surfaces.

Under certain conditions at low temperatures, the Ebola virus can remain viable on surfaces for up 50 days, according to a study by the U.K.’s Defense Science and Technology Laboratory. Tests of the virus showed certain strains can remain on surfaces for nearly two months. The CDC notes that Ebola typically lives on “dry” surfaces like doorknobs and tables for only a few hours. But the U.K. research discovered it can survive for more than seven weeks on certain cold surfaces.

9. Ebola is incurable and there is no known treatment.

There is no vaccine or treatment for Ebola, despite a frenzy of drug company research.

Two experimental drugs have been used to treat patients in the current outbreak. ZMapp, being developed by Mapp Biopharmaceutical Inc., has not yet been tested in humans. It is a combination of three different monoclonal antibodies that bind to the protein of the Ebola virus. A second experimental drug, Brincidofovir, has also been used to treat some patients. A third treatment that uses antibodies taken from the blood of individuals who have recovered from Ebola has also been effective in some patients.

Ebola vaccines are being investigated and could become available next year. However, even if they prove successful in trials, there are major technological hurdles to overcome to produce and distribute them.

http://www.Newsmax.com/Newsfront/Ebola-virus-healthcare-workers-protective-gear/2014/10/27/id/603376/#ixzz3HNzDl4OF

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Re: Ebola has come to America - CDC confirms first case.
« Reply #372 on: October 27, 2014, 04:05:50 PM »
9 Reasons to Fear Ebola
Monday, 27 Oct 2014
By Nick Tate

The Obama administration and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention have moved to tamp down worries over Ebola even as the number of cases continues to accelerate. However, many doctors and researchers say there are ominous signs about what the future holds regarding the deadly virus.

Here, according to health experts, are nine reasons to fear Ebola:

1.   U.S. hospitals are unprepared.

A new survey found that 94 percent of American hospitals are unprepared for an Ebola patient. Of 1,039 medical centers surveyed, only about 6 percent said they were "well-prepared," according to the Association for Professionals in Infection Control and Epidemiology.

"The results of the poll paint a disturbing picture, and point to an urgent need to bolster infection prevention resources in healthcare facilities," Katrina Crist, CEO of APIC, said during a press conference announcing the results.

2. One form of Ebola has already mutated to an airborne disease.

David Sanders, associate professor of biological sciences at Purdue University who has done extensive Ebola research, notes that the strain of the virus at the center of the outbreak in West Africa can only be spread by exposure to bodily fluids. But Sanders tells Newsmax that Ebola does have the potential to mutate so that it can spread by air like a cold or flu.

In fact, this has already happened with one strain of the virus, Ebola-Reston, that is not involved in the current outbreak. This disease came to Reston, Virginia., in 1989, when a shipment of infected macaques was imported from the Philippines. The disease spread from the macaques to other monkeys housed at a quarantine facility. The infected monkeys all died and four workers at the quarantine facility tested positive for the disease.

The workers never got sick and Ebola-Reston turned out to be the only one of the five forms of Ebola not harmful to humans. But it does show that a virus in the Ebola family can be spread through the air, Sanders says.

3. There is huge potential for spread in Asia.

Health experts are especially concerned that the longer the Ebola outbreak rages in West Africa, the greater chance a traveler infected with the virus will touch down in Asia, a region where billions live in poverty, in crowded conditions, and with public health systems that are often very weak.

"This is a nontreatable disease with a very high mortality rate. And even a country like the United States has not been able to completely prevent it," said Yatin Mehta, a critical care specialist at the Medanta Medicity hospital near New Delhi, India. "The [India] government is trying. They are preparing and they are training, but our record of disaster management has been very poor in the past."

4. The CDC predicts 1.4 million cases by January.

The number of Ebola cases could reach 1.4 million in West Africa by the end of January, according to the CDC. To put this in perspective, an equivalent rate in the U.S. population would be almost 45 million people nationally.

CDC Director Dr. Thomas Frieden warned this month that Ebola is spreading so rapidly it could become a global pandemic to rival AIDS if it is not contained.

5. Ebola is transmissible by droplets.

The CDC notes that Ebola is not spread through the air like the cold or flu. But it may be spread via airborne "droplets" from an infected person to another in close proximity.

Here’s the difference between the two modes of transmission:

Airborne transmission: This can occur when virus particles are discharged into the air and remain for long periods of time. Droplet particles from a cold or flu, for instance, can survive for long time periods outside the body and on dry surfaces. Infected particles can enter via the lungs of a healthy person, causing the disease. Ebola is not spread this way.

Droplet-contact transmission: This occurs when larger droplets of virus-laden mucus or saliva are discharged into the air such as from a sneeze and come into direct contact with the nose, mouth, or eyes of a healthy person, causing infection. This type of transmission occurs when proximity is very close (within 3 feet). Ebola can potentially be spread this way, experts believe, perhaps on planes or other types of public transportation.

6. The incubation period is long.

The time it takes a person exposed to Ebola to suffer symptoms and become contagious can range from two to 21 days. What’s more, new research suggests the 21-day quarantine recommended by the CDC for Ebola patients to minimize the risk of spreading the virus may be too short.

A Drexel University study concludes that 21 days might not be enough to completely prevent the spread of the virus, estimating a 12 percent chance that someone could be infected even after the three-week quarantine.

7. Health workers have been infected despite protective equipment.

Many healthcare workers who have been treating Ebola victims — including 16 members of the Doctors Without Borders staff — have contracted the virus even though they have followed established guidelines for wearing protective suits, masks, gloves, and other equipment.

Even the makers of such specialized equipment say it doesn’t offer 100 percent protection. In addition, donning and removing protective suits and masks can be tricky, experts say.

8. The Ebola virus can live up to 50 days on certain surfaces.

Under certain conditions at low temperatures, the Ebola virus can remain viable on surfaces for up 50 days, according to a study by the U.K.’s Defense Science and Technology Laboratory. Tests of the virus showed certain strains can remain on surfaces for nearly two months. The CDC notes that Ebola typically lives on “dry” surfaces like doorknobs and tables for only a few hours. But the U.K. research discovered it can survive for more than seven weeks on certain cold surfaces.

9. Ebola is incurable and there is no known treatment.

There is no vaccine or treatment for Ebola, despite a frenzy of drug company research.

Two experimental drugs have been used to treat patients in the current outbreak. ZMapp, being developed by Mapp Biopharmaceutical Inc., has not yet been tested in humans. It is a combination of three different monoclonal antibodies that bind to the protein of the Ebola virus. A second experimental drug, Brincidofovir, has also been used to treat some patients. A third treatment that uses antibodies taken from the blood of individuals who have recovered from Ebola has also been effective in some patients.

Ebola vaccines are being investigated and could become available next year. However, even if they prove successful in trials, there are major technological hurdles to overcome to produce and distribute them.

http://www.Newsmax.com/Newsfront/Ebola-virus-healthcare-workers-protective-gear/2014/10/27/id/603376/#ixzz3HNzDl4OF

Oooooh, scary.

#2. Seems to be bullshit.  The non-lethal variant of ebola that harmlessly infected 4 people in Reston 25 years ago did not mutate to become airborne.  It, like all ebola strains now known, requires contact with bodily fluid and that happened when the body fluids (piss, shit, and blood) in infected monkey cages were "aerosolized" by being hosed down while being cleaned.

Truth is, it's just not very contagious.  It is possible to catch the disease if an infected person who's noticeably ill coughs or sneezes into your mucous membranes (in your eyes, nose, mouth, or goatse-like anus) but how likely is that since the disease does not cause coughing or sneezing?

Yeah, once contracted it's a deadly disease in poor-ass African countries but I think the mortality rate in a developed country like the USA is questionable.  Contracting the disease is a likely death sentence for poor West African folks for whom access to clean running water is a challenge but what's the score in developed countries?  I think the jury is still out on that question.  Sheesh, even the relatively modestly developed country of Nigeria seems to have successfully dealt with the disease.

Articles like this are simply scare-mongering.  Especially since at this point, your life is far, far more at risk every day by simply getting behind the wheel of a car.

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Re: Ebola has come to America - CDC confirms first case.
« Reply #373 on: October 27, 2014, 04:10:11 PM »
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/10/02/ebola-risks-in-perspective/16589979/

Even germaphobes don't need to fear Ebola

Writing about public health can make you a little crazy.

After 14 years as a medical reporter, I'm a self-confessed germaphobe. I buy hand sanitizer in bulk. I haven't touched a raw chicken in years. I no longer eat sprouts or cantaloupes, which have caused far too many food poisoning outbreaks.

But I'm not even a little worried about getting Ebola.

Because viruses aren't all the same. Because Ebola is not the flu. And Dallas is not West Africa.

Unlike the common cold or viruses that cause food poisoning, Ebola does not spread through casual contact.

Ebola spreads through direct contact with bodily fluids, primarily blood. It can only spread after someone develops symptoms, such as a fever. So if you're exposed to Ebola, the odds are that you are going to know it.

So what has allowed Ebola to ravage West Africa?

Extreme poverty, a broken public health system and the trauma of countries newly emerged from years of brutal warfare.

These conditions aren't present in the USA. They aren't even present in much of Nigeria, where the Ebola epidemic appears to be over. Nigeria, which is considerably more developed than many of its neighbors, was prepared for the possibility of Ebola and took quick action to limit its spread.

I would hope that the USA would respond at least as effectively. While we may see more cases, it's just not likely that we are going to be overwhelmed.

Still, many people remain convinced that the USA is on the verge of an apocalypse.

In some ways, it's easy to see why people are confused.

For nearly two decades, since avian influenza emerged in China in 1996, we've been bombarded with one terrifying disease outbreak after another. Some of these outbreaks were real — bird flu, swine flu, MERS, SARS and even anthrax. Other imagined threats — such as a bioterrorist attack using smallpox — haven't materialized.

But here's what all of the scary germs mentioned above have in common: They can spread through the air, Ebola doesn't. Public health leaders have almost 40 years of experience with Ebola, and they've never seen cases where someone got Ebola because an infected person coughed on them.

If Ebola spread that easily, there would be 7 million cases, not 7,100 cases, as the World Health Organization reports.

Is it possible that we will see more cases of Ebola, either in contacts of the Dallas patient or in additional travelers who fly here from abroad? Yes.

But the USA has safely treated five people with Ebola-like viruses without any mass outbreak. These deadly viruses were here, in the USA, unbeknownst to most of us, and we all survived just fine.

Some of the excessive fear about Ebola reminds me of the hysteria over AIDS in the 1980s. That fear led an Indiana town to bar a 13-year-old boy named Ryan White from attending school. Ryan was infected with the AIDS virus from a blood transfusion, and he posed no threat to anyone.

I would hate to see anyone face that sort of discrimination today.

Does that mean we shouldn't care about Ebola? Absolutely not.

The Ebola epidemic is heartbreaking. I've covered it for months, hoping that my stories will move people to help. Many reputable charities have been on the scene in West Africa since the first days of the outbreak in March. Americans who are concerned about Ebola should consider making a donation.

People might also want to consider protecting themselves from diseases that pose far greater risks in the USA.

Half of Americans skip the flu shot, even though influenza kills up to 49,000 Americans a year.

As Paul Offit, chief of infectious diseases at Children's Hospital of Philadelphia, told me, "I bet that if we put out an Ebola virus vaccine tomorrow, half of this country would take it, even though it hasn't killed anyone who hasn't traveled" to the affected countries. "Yet you can't get parents to give their children an HPV vaccine to prevent a virus that kills 4,000 U.S. citizens a year."

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Re: Ebola has come to America - CDC confirms first case.
« Reply #374 on: October 27, 2014, 04:18:11 PM »
Oooooh, scary.

#2. Seems to be bullshit.  The non-lethal variant of ebola that harmlessly infected 4 people in Reston 25 years ago did not mutate to become airborne.  It, like all ebola strains now known, requires contact with bodily fluid and that happened when the body fluids (piss, shit, and blood) in infected monkey cages were "aerosolized" by being hosed down while being cleaned.

Truth is, it's just not very contagious.  It is possible to catch the disease if an infected person who's noticeably ill coughs or sneezes into your mucous membranes (in your eyes, nose, mouth, or goatse-like anus) but how likely is that since the disease does not cause coughing or sneezing?

Yeah, once contracted it's a deadly disease in poor-ass African countries but I think the mortality rate in a developed country like the USA is questionable.  Contracting the disease is a likely death sentence for poor West African folks for whom access to clean running water is a challenge but what's the score in developed countries?  I think the jury is still out on that question.  Sheesh, even the relatively modestly developed country of Nigeria seems to have successfully dealt with the disease.

Articles like this are simply scare-mongering.  Especially since at this point, your life is far, far more at risk every day by simply getting behind the wheel of a car.

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