One has a complete physique the other doesn't. Not even close.
I hear you, but I don't understand why people compare 212 with open class guys, "Arnold era" bodybuilders with modern bodybuilders, female bodybuilders with bikini chicks, etc, etc...
Sure, we all have our favorites, but comparisons like these make no sense to me.
Oh, and this "no calves" thing is getting old, why beating a dead horse
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