I get tired of eating so much meat

[no one]

this x 100000

noone actually officially knows what he's talkin  about in my book now and that's 100%

because i'm not a pro

and i have a real job

but those who know me. know i'm on the other side of the industry. and dialaudid, roxy (or per 30s), oxy 80s, endocets, norcos, vicodin, regular percs, darvocet, even tramadol are taken a HELL of a lot more than AAS/hgh/peptides on a daily basis by competitors

that's how they beat the sides. and they get addicted quick. think supplier's only sell AAS for a second and you're fooling yourself. not all. but top top.... i'm done with this post.

just sayin. no one: officially good people. i apologize for any words i said to you when i was trolling before

no worries dude and no apology necessary that kind of shit is why I post here. if you can't call someone a faggat and bust balls it would get very boring.

[Disgusted]

We have been through this before and it seems you DID NOT pay attention.

There are no by-products in their meat for the 100030439549349 time.  Do I need to bump all the threads discussing this.  Hopefully you get it by now.

  Their beef patty does not contain 100% beef as a whole!!!!!

[The True Adonis]

Their beef patty does not contain 100% beef as a whole!!!!!

I already proved to you that this is not true.

Where is your proof that it is true?  Please link me. 

[BodyConnoisseur]

dude the IFBB pro/ Olymipan is using so much insulin anabolics diuretics and pain killers a fucking cupcake is the least of his worries.

Nice evading from all my points about macronutrients, types of carbs and vitamins

[The True Adonis]

Nice evading from all my points about macronutrients, types of carbs and vitamins

A bowl of cereal has more Micronutrients, vitamins, minerals than your entire diet.

[BodyConnoisseur]

Irrelevant and stupid scenario crafted to meet your biased agenda.

Here is mine.

Bodybuilder A eats "clean" and develops cancer.  Bodybuilder A then gets liver disease and dies.  Oh well.

Bodybuilder C, me looks better than you or any of your fad diet friends ever will. Oh well.

[BodyConnoisseur]

A bowl of cereal has more Micronutrients, vitamins, minerals than your entire diet.

Bullshit.

[The True Adonis]

Bullshit.

[no one]

Nice evading from all my points about macronutrients, types of carbs and vitamins

no I think I drew a parallel quite nicely. don't fault me for being too obtuse to see it.

I think an ifbb pro abusing the shit out of insulin is no different than one who eats cake pies and other such things.

maybe it's you who's missing the point.

[BodyConnoisseur]

Im staring at a box of cheerios right now and 1 bowl is not even a 10th of the vitamins and minerals i consume.

[no one]

no one, are you suggesting the trainer is really more suited to guiding a session of arts and crafts for 'pansy crown making 101'  at the local prison?

what I'm saying Euterpe is that trainer would prolly walk around the prison shower looking around for a bar of soap.

[BodyConnoisseur]

no I think I drew a parallel quite nicely. don't fault me for being too obtuse to see it.

I think an ifbb pro abusing the shit out of insulin is no different than one who eats cake pies and other such things.

maybe it's you who's missing the point.

Yet youre still ignoring the actual point.

[The True Adonis]

Im staring at a box of cheerios right now and 1 bowl is not even a 10th of the vitamins and minerals i consume.

Try bran flakes.

[no one]

Yet youre still ignoring the actual point.

you made an opinion based on hypothesis and speculation regarding who would be 'healthier', since you cannot prove inconclusively which is healthier unless you had two bbers of identical genetic makeup taking the same compounds and eating different diets. so therefor you base your opinion on a collection of beliefs and what you feel you know.

I said one would be no healthier than the other based on the example you gave.

I thought it was pretty simple. what's so difficult for you to comprehend out of all this?

you are the only one here missing the actual point.

one is no better than the other.

[Disgusted]

A bowl of cereal has more Micronutrients, vitamins, minerals than your entire diet.

So what, it's artificially enhanced. I could do the same with cat shit.

[no one]

lol BC let me make this simple.

what does insulin do.

what does a diet high in sugars do.

you get it now? should I slow down a bit for you?

[BodyConnoisseur]

you made an opinion based on hypothesis and speculation regarding who would be 'healthier', since you cannot prove inconclusively which is healthier unless you had two bbers of identical genetic makeup taking the same compounds and eating different diets. so therefor you base your opinion on a collection of beliefs and what you feel you know.

I said one would be no healthier than the other based on the example you gave.

I thought it was pretty simple. what's so difficult for you to comprehend out of all this?

you are the only one here missing the actual point.

one is no better than the other.

Actually no, you did not say any of that before. If you wouldve been this straight forward in your first response you would have saved us both time.

My personal experience that ive witnessed only confirms the facts that certain carbs and fats are healthier than others.

[The True Adonis]

So what, it's artificially enhanced. I could do the same with cat shit.

[Disgusted]

What you so shocked about there Holmes. Isn't the first time that you have used cereal as an example of some type of super food. It's man made and vitamin fortified. Like I said, one can do this with anything. What's so miraculous about taking a taking what is essentially a non digestible fiber and mixing it with man made nutrients?

[Coach is Back!]

Would anyone on here like to look like this? Does anyone on here look like this? Somewhere I have the diet plan that Mo was selling at the high point of his career and I also have all the Musclemags that talked about his training and diet. He ate twice daily basically zero carbs and nearer the show he cut back to plain chicken breasts to look like that.

I also have a letter that he wrote to me answering someone of my questions about diet. He admitted to using and even said what he took in the letter and what diuretic he took and how. How's that for honestly? The one thing that I remember him saying in the letter was, in order for one to get shredded you had to suffer. Anyone who claims to get that lean and tells you it was painless has either never been that lean or is lying to you.

This is a dead on fact even to this day. If you want to get shredded, you have to suffer. It sucks but it's true.

[Var City]

no one, are you suggesting the trainer is really more suited to guiding a session of arts and crafts for 'pansy crown making 101'  at the local prison?

euterpe in running for rookie of the year

[calfzilla]

This is a dead on fact even to this day. If you want to get shredded, you have to suffer. It sucks but it's true.

I agree but what exactly do you mean by suffering?  Low carbs, low cals, lack of variety or all 3?

[Var City]

I agree but what exactly do you mean by suffering?  Low carbs, low cals, lack of variety or all 3?

not even trying to be argumentative

but you know what he means

We all WANT to eat!

To get shredded you have to fight the urge!

that's all coach is saying i think... i mean, it's kinda basic. don't pretend like getting shredded is pleasent (: other than the clen part (i'm the weirdo that actually loves clen)

[Ex Coelis]

euterpe in running for rookie of the year

yes, he's one of the bigger guys around here

[the trainer]

So much ignorance in this thread so many people to own I dont even know where to start, hmmm lets take adonis first since he is promoting macdonalds as healthy food.

So you big bodybuilder goes to macdonald orders 2 bic macs fries and coke, well you just took in 2,290mg of sodium and 94 grams of sugar and you have another 4 to 5 meals to go, high blood pressure and increasing your risk of diabetes that is a good way to go, I wont even bother to get into the high saturated fat.

Now the cows that macdonalds get their beef from the famers use growth hormone and antibiotics so the cows can grow faster to meet macdonalds demand, now when you eat this beef the antibiotics make the human body very resist to a lot of pharmacutical drugs so they are not effective if treating you when you get sick from the shitty diet.

So enjoy your macdonalds adonis and know that you have a future of high blood pressure and heart attack awaiting you.