Dorian Yates cycle

[Simple Simon]

I agree there's a point of diminishing returns.

But you have already said the more you take the more you grow, make your mind up.

[Shockwave]

My main point to be on a pro stage 1980s-2014 you need to mega dose everything.

I guess that probably depends on what you consider megadosing.

[spiro]

But you have already said the more you take the more you grow, make your mind up.

Dude it's not rocket science. 2 grams will yield more mass than 500 mg right? 20 grams is too much can't tolerate it will make you sick. How is that confusing?

[Simple Simon]

Dude it's not rocket science. 2 grams will yield more mass than 500 mg right? 20 grams is too much can't tolerate it will make you sick. How is that confusing?

What if 2gms makes you sick?

[spiro]

And your ' main point ' is ignorant and was corrected multiple times.

And you're prob one of the guys who believe lee priest would take a few cc of test a week and maybe some deca right?

I bet pros use no less than 5 grams total aas as much gh slin and exotics as they can afford.

[thebrink]

couple of irrelevant bodybuilders trying to stay relevant.

[Julio Ceasar]

I belive in genetics!

and we all se pros that dosent have them, work hard as fuck, inject everything and still look like shit! Then we have real pros, work moderate, inject half the doses and look 10 times better. Shawm flex, martinez, etc Then we have genetic gifted people, who work hard, and inject alot = Coleman, nasser, ruhl etc!

[spiro]

What if 2gms makes you sick?

You will never be a pro! I can't even use tren I get sick I could never be more than a gym rat. I can tolerate the easy stuff test deca primo that's really it.

[HonestBob]

And you're prob one of the guys who believe lee priest would take a few cc of test a week and maybe some deca right?

I bet pros use no less than 5 grams total aas as much gh slin and exotics as they can afford.

And you base this "bet" based on what experience exactly?

[spiro]

It's chemical warfare are you guys joking? Especially with this modern era of slin blow up dolls. Christ some thick people on here. Maybe in the seventies you could get away with low doses but you aren't stepping on a pro stage without a serious stack today.

If you could get to the pros on small doses why not go for the fucking gold and blast until you can't take more. These guys are all addicts to begin with. Some guys like Dexter he didn't play the mass game as much he uses prob less than someone like rammy but that is why he's been able to compete for 20 years. I bet his stack and drug bill is still huge!

[HonestBob]

It's chemical warfare are you guys joking? Especially with this modern era of so in blow up dolls. Christ some thick people on here. Maybe in the seventies you could get away with low doses but you aren't stepping on a pro stage without a serious stack.

Just tell us your experience, surely that's a reasonable question to ask?

If it's all off the boards or the "friend of the gym owner who sold gear to an IFBB pro" then you might want to at least be open minded enough to listen to people who might have had a bit more exposure than yourself.

[BigRo]

Spiro truth talking in this thread

[nasum]

I use a gram a week of deca/test for recreational purposes. Cycling off intermittently.

I find it difficult to believe dorian used the same amount of gear as me. As my gear use is fairly conservative imo.

[HonestBob]

Spiro truth talking in this thread

oh do shut up.  You can tell yourself you're not a top guy because you don't take their drugs but perhaps that isn't true...

It must hurt your sensitive soul to hear that there have been guys turn pro on no peptides and sub 1gm/week. A name Simon would know form the 90s but not for airing on here.

Cue the ridicule for me, but why would I make this up?  I'm not suggesting I was a pro, I'm a bodybuilding never was with no axe to grind in this.

[Nails]

[BigRo]

telling me to shut  up isnt a good start for a reasonable response. Fuck you.

[spiro]

Just tell us your experience, surely that's a reasonable question to ask?

If it's all off the boards or the "friend of the gym owner who sold gear to an IFBB pro" then you might want to at least be open minded enough to listen to people who might have had a bit more exposure than yourself.

Logic is all the experience I need. If lee priest can get to the Olympia without abusing hardcore then why not increase your earning ability and placing by jacking the dose up. Obviously he is a great responder and has superior genetics that is what got him so far. Why not say hey I think I can win.this thing if I take more than a gram of test and deca and a few clicks of dbols.

Fuck no if you're that good at something and you respond that well you are going to push it fucking hard. Bodybuilders have what maybe ten years to make money. Why would they play with gym rat doses? Commonfucking sense!

[spiro]

oh do shut up.  You can tell yourself you're not a top guy because you don't take their drugs but perhaps that isn't true...

It must hurt your sensitive soul to hear that there have been guys turn pro on no peptides and sub 1gm/week. A name Simon would know form the 90s but not for airing on here.

Cue the ridicule for me, but why would I make this up?  I'm not suggesting I was a pro, I'm a bodybuilding never was with no axe to grind in this.

You are straight up fucking liar! This is some of the biggest b.s. I've ever read and you call yourself honest Bob Lmao I hope your trolling. Bodybuilders are attidcs!

Turning pro on trt doses you should be ashamed! You should be banned from BB forums! Why the fuck would a pro be that careful about doses! Liar!

[the trainer]

The more you take the more results you will have just like anything. Plus these guys max out on was aas and then the really fun starts with gh slin and whatever else they can get into their bodies.

I still think you have to be genetically awesome to be a pro. I also 100 percent believe the doses they take would kill a normal person. That is why they're the best in the world.

I have average genetics I can get so far on 500 test. Next I add deca. Next test deca orals. Next test deca tren orals in and out. Next every aas I listed and Jack those doses all way up. Next gh. Next gh slin. Next aas gh slin igf mgf or whatever your guru can get you. Quality will depend on Your source.

Dude you are being retarded its like saying if 50 grams of protein per meal builds muscle then lets increase it to 100 grams per meal to build more muscle, it does not work like that, there is no point in taking more than 1 gram of test week if you take 3 grams you are not going to see better results.

[Simple Simon]

Logic is all the experience I need. If lee priest can get to the Olympia without abusing hardcore then why not increase your earning ability and placing by jacking the dose up. Obviously he is a great responder and has superior genetics that is what got him so far. Why not say hey I think I can win.this thing if I take more than a gram of test and deca and a few clicks of dbols.

Fuck no if you're that good at something and you respond that well you are going to push it fucking hard. Bodybuilders have what maybe ten years to make money. Why would they play with gym rat doses? Commonfucking sense!

So why didnt Lee just double his dose and win the Olympia?

[Simple Simon]

Dude you are being retarded its like saying if 50 grams of protein per meal builds muscle then lets increase it to 100 grams per meal to build more muscle, it does not work like that, there is no point in taking more than 1 gram of test week if you take 3 grams you are not going to see better results.

You must be trolling, you are actually right for once.

[spiro]

So why didnt Lee just double his dose and win the Olympia?

Just not genetically possible to get bigger! No matter how much you take your still human!

[spiro]

Dude you are being retarded its like saying if 50 grams of protein per meal builds muscle then lets increase it to 100 grams per meal to build more muscle, it does not work like that, there is no point in taking more than 1 gram of test week if you take 3 grams you are not going to see better results.

That's why you take ten different drugs and peptides and whatever the druggies can get their hands on.

[the trainer]

You must be trolling, you are actually right for once.

Dam sorry about that I will try to be wrong next time.

[Simple Simon]

Just not genetically possible to get bigger! No matter how much you take your still human!

You have just contradicted yourself again.