Supreme Court blocks Wisconsin's voter ID law

[Tedim]

I am for obstacles that will force people to prove they can legally vote.....and severe punishments for people who vote illegally.

I also think you should be 25 before you vote, not be receiving welfare....including food stamps and that everything in the voting precinct be in English and English only!

[Straw Man]

thr purpose is to prove who you are. I couldnt give a fuck less if it reduces republican turnout, democrat turnout, ot transexual turnout, its basic logic... you should prive your identity and your eligibility to vote.

Period.

Nothing youre saying is logical.

'The laws suppress people because they wont turn out to. Vote if they have to show ID, proving who you are is an extra burden'

No shit, the burden of proof that everyone has to do multiple times a week to do anything in this country. I dont give a fuck, there is literally no logical explanation of why someone shouldnt have to prove their identity to vote in this country.

Ironically almost every other countey requires ID, INCLUDING MEXICO.

you should know that there are plenty of people who are dirt poor, don't drive, etc... and they still have the right to vote and what's a simple everyday task for most us is a much larger burden for them.  

[loco]

if you want me to take you seriously you first have to admit you understand the definition of the word "maybe"

just admit you understand the definition of that word so that I don't waste my time showing you other words you don't understand (or pretend not to understand)

deal?

LOL

You have no evidence the court even read the report.  So why even bring up that maybe they did.    

You really want anybody to take you seriously when you want to base an entire discussion on a "maybe"?

[loco]

you should know that there are plenty of people who are dirt poor, don't drive, etc... and they still have the right to vote and what's a simple everyday task for most us is a much larger burden for them.  

Do you volunteer to drive these people to the voting booth and then back to their home on election day?

[Tedim]

you should know that there are plenty of people who are dirt poor, don't drive, etc... and they still have the right to vote and what's a simple everyday task for most us is a much larger burden for them.  

fuck them, if theyre that lazy or stoopid to get an id card....their vote is a liability not an asset to America

[Soul Crusher]

you should know that there are plenty of people who are dirt poor, don't drive, etc... and they still have the right to vote and what's a simple everyday task for most us is a much larger burden for them.  

Oh please - more liberal cry baby pansie ass shit

[loco]

thr purpose is to prove who you are. I couldnt give a fuck less if it reduces republican turnout, democrat turnout, ot transexual turnout, its basic logic... you should prive your identity and your eligibility to vote.

Period.

Nothing youre saying is logical.

'The laws suppress people because they wont turn out to. Vote if they have to show ID, proving who you are is an extra burden'

No shit, the burden of proof that everyone has to do multiple times a week to do anything in this country. I dont give a fuck, there is literally no logical explanation of why someone shouldnt have to prove their identity to vote in this country.

Ironically almost every other countey requires ID, INCLUDING MEXICO.

Straw Man is not known here for being logical.  He constantly argues with people he claims are mentally ill,
people he claims are pointless to have a discussion with.

[RRKore]

This seems like a temporary problem to me. 

Why should you need to carry some document to try to prove your identity? -- We've got fingerprint scanners on iphones and laptops these days, don't we?

[loco]

This seems like a temporary problem to me. 

Why should you need to carry some document to try to prove your identity? -- We've got fingerprint scanners on iphones and laptops these days, don't we?

They aren't very reliable.  The most reliable devices, the ones at top security agencies, are very expensive.

[Dos Equis]

This seems like a temporary problem to me. 

Why should you need to carry some document to try to prove your identity? -- We've got fingerprint scanners on iphones and laptops these days, don't we?

In this context, you only need to carry an ID on Election Day.  I had to show my ID when I voted a couple months ago. 

The fact this is tied up in the court system, including the U.S. Supreme Court, is mind boggling. 

[Archer77]

Make IDs free. 

[Soul Crusher]

Make IDs free. 

They are in most states - its just an excuse for failed liberals too stupid to tie their own shoes

[Archer77]

They are in most states - its just an excuse for failed liberals too stupid to tie their own shoes

If its such a problem for people to acquire IDs the community step up and help.  Local organizations and churches can provide transportation.  It's not hard. Up until 2008 election I transported the poor and elderly from the city of Detroit to and from the poles.  By the way, the volunteers were 99% white despite efforts to recruit more blacks. Blacks didn't want to volunteer.

[Straw Man]

Straw Man is not known here for being logical.  He constantly argues with people he claims are mentally ill,
people he claims are pointless to have a discussion with.

I've only called certain fundie mindsets as examples of being mentally ill

I'm sure you know the type I'm referring to

[Straw Man]

Pennsylvania GOP Chief Admits Voter ID Laws Suppressed Democratic Vote In 2012
http://www.nationalmemo.com/pennsylvania-gop-chief-admits-voter-id-laws-suppressed-democratic-vote-in-2012/

6 Other Times Republicans Admitted Voting Restrictions Are Just About Disenfranchising Democrats
http://www.nationalmemo.com/6-other-times-republicans-admitted-voting-restrictions-are-just-about-disenfranchising-democrats/

Texas AG Admits If Minorities Voted For Us, Republicans Wouldn’t Have to Suppress Votes
http://www.politicususa.com/2013/10/24/texas-ag-admits-minorities-voted-republican-suppress-votes.html

There is no shortage of Republicans admitting the true intent of these laws

This whole thing started after the 2008 election and it's mostly (if not virtually all) Republican pushing these things and they have no problem admitting the real intent, and now we have a GAO report that confirm the effect, whether intentional or not, so how about we just drop all the BS and discuss the issue at hand instead of all pretending it's something else

[Kazan]

Pennsylvania GOP Chief Admits Voter ID Laws Suppressed Democratic Vote In 2012
http://www.nationalmemo.com/pennsylvania-gop-chief-admits-voter-id-laws-suppressed-democratic-vote-in-2012/

6 Other Times Republicans Admitted Voting Restrictions Are Just About Disenfranchising Democrats
http://www.nationalmemo.com/6-other-times-republicans-admitted-voting-restrictions-are-just-about-disenfranchising-democrats/

Texas AG Admits If Minorities Voted For Us, Republicans Wouldn’t Have to Suppress Votes
http://www.politicususa.com/2013/10/24/texas-ag-admits-minorities-voted-republican-suppress-votes.html

There is no shortage of Republicans admitting the true intent of these laws

This whole thing started after the 2008 election and it's mostly (if not virtually all) Republican pushing these things and they have no problem admitting the real intent, and now we have a GAO report that confirm the effect, whether intentional or not, so how about we just drop all the BS and discuss the issue at hand instead of all pretending it's something else

Guess what for just about everything in life you have to provide some form of identification, shit I bet to get welfare you have to. Do you really expect me to believe that people have no form of identification? The fucking ridiculousness of all this, you have to be a citizen to vote, so what's the problem with proving it? The GOP it wants it because it supposedly suppresses the dem vote, the dems don't want it because they can't get the illegal vote. Fuck all of them........

[Mr. No]

I am for obstacles that will force people to prove they can legally vote.....and severe punishments for people who vote illegally.

I also think you should be 25 before you vote, not be receiving welfare....including food stamps and that everything in the voting precinct be in English and English only!

Shit.

Why not just call for a poll tax, Mr. Connor?

[Tedim]

Shit.

Why not just call for a poll tax, Mr. Connor?

Just call me Jim, you commie pinko queer.

[Mr. No]

Just call me Jim, you commie pinko queer.

Yes, voting is so communist.

[Tedim]

Yes, voting is so communist.

Hard to express sarcasm in a 1D medium

[Archer77]

Shit.

Why not just call for a poll tax, Mr. Connor?

This is a ridiculous answer. Nothing but hyperbole. 

[240 is Back]

They are in most states - its just an excuse for failed liberals too stupid to tie their own shoes

LMAO!

Sorry, that's categorically and completely not true, bro.

http://www.thepiratescove.us/2008/04/28/what-does-a-state-id-cost/

This is a PRO-REPUBLICAN page showing the fees aren't that high.  But "free"?  Oh no, not even close. 

Whoever told you that, please tell them to GoRuck themselves. 

[RRKore]

They aren't very reliable.  The most reliable devices, the ones at top security agencies, are very expensive.

Reliable in what sense? 

Cuz I find that a little hard to believe since I use a fingerprint scanner at my gym (a 24 Hour Fitness in Riverside County) to check in every day. 

How it works is I punch my phone number into one of about 4 keypads at the front counter and then hold my forefinger over the scanner next to the keypad for about 10 seconds.  When the light turns green, I enter the gym. 

BTW, I've had no issues using the fingerprint scanner for entry at either the Eastvale or Irvine 24 Fitness gyms either. 

[RRKore]

This is a ridiculous answer. Nothing but hyperbole. 

To be fair, the idea that someone on welfare should be prohibited from voting is ridiculous, too. 

[Archer77]

To be fair, the idea that someone on welfare should be prohibited from voting is ridiculous, too. 

You're framing the issue in those terms.  I dont see it that way.