Will TOO MUCH MUSCLE hurt one in a fight?

[240 is Back]

An Alaska man told police that Bristol Palin was “punching him in the face repeatedly” during a wild drunken brawl last month at a house party in Wasilla, Alaska, according to a police report released Thursday.

Both Sarah Palin’s daughter Bristol and her son Track appeared heavily intoxicated when cops arrived after the fight, which involved about 20 people, the report said. Sarah Palin was at the scene when police arrived, but no interview with the 2008 Republican vice presidential candidate is included in the report.


The Alaska Dispatch News posted the police report online. The report consists of a number of separate police reports that were taken at the scene on Sept. 6.

One officer said he “recognized one of the individuals as Sarah Palin and Todd Palin, who appeared upset and in a verbal argument with other individuals at the scene.”

Police said they arrived at the house, owned by Korey Klingenmeyer, to find Track bloodied, apparently intoxicated and shirtless. Track, after being asked to step out of a white limousine that he entered as police arrived, was beside Todd and Sarah Palin, who told him to speak with an officer, the report said.

Police interviewed witnesses at the scene, who said Bristol had punched Klingenmeyer multiple times.

Police said Bristol also appeared heavily intoxicated. Klingenmeyer told police that when Bristol was asked to leave, “she began to get angry with him and began yelling at him” before “punching him in the face repeatedly, using both hands.”
Klingenmeyer, who police reported appeared “moderately intoxicated,” said he held Bristol back and pushed her down as she tried to hit him.
Police reports said Willow Palin, another of the Palins’ daughters, was also at the scene and was “extremely agitated.”

One police officer reported that he “smelled the odor of alcohol coming from Bristol and I observed no visible injuries on her.”
The police report detailed that Bristol confronted a woman who allegedly pushed Willow. Klingenmeyer then pushed Bristol to the ground, and, according to Bristol, “called her a slut over and over,” the report said.

Bristol Palin told officers that someone “pulled her to the ground on the grass by her feet … then someone stole her shoes and sunglasses.”
Track Palin was bloodied, appeared to have injuries to his face and “appeared heavily intoxicated and acted belligerent at first,” the report said.Klingenmeyer, according to the report, told police that “he was angry that the Palins had showed up and were causing the problems.”
Police said Thursday they will not proceed with charges from the altercation, the Alaska Dispatch News reported.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/10/bristol-palin-report-fight-111742.html#ixzz3Fkagyb4i

[Ron Harrigan]

Not if the muscle is functional.

[the trainer]

These ass muscles could hurt you in a dick fight.

[dr.chimps]

This will impact Sarah's '16, '20, and '24 campaigns. By '30 - she should be good to go.

[ChopperRider]

This will impact Sarah's '16, '20, and '24 campaigns. By '30 - she should be good to go.

Sarah Palin is too good for this brain dead country......after seeing the piece of shit they elected the last two times, they don't deserve her.

[gracie bjj]

anyone with muscle can do damage to another person just by the fact that they r probly pretty strong from lifting, even if they don't have training in martial arts they can still hurt someone really bad. imagine having Ronnie coleman ontop of u dropping bombs in your face area ,regardless if Ronnie never had any formal training in striking he can still smash someones face into hamburger. im into MMA but im not one of those guys that keep saying technique is everything,it is very important but brute strength is great to have in a fight also,imagine trying to fight a silverback gorilla,i don't give a fuck how much technique u have that gorillas gonna fuck u up real bad.sometimes having to much muscle can cause a fighter to use up massive amounts of oxygen and that's not good if u r in a battle,but that's not always the case, muscle can help out bigtime imo

[njflex]

where are her nudes...

[Mr.Mojo]

anyone with muscle can do damage to another person just by the fact that they r probly pretty strong from lifting, even if they don't have training in martial arts they can still hurt someone really bad. imagine having Ronnie coleman ontop of u dropping bombs in your face area ,regardless if Ronnie never had any formal training in striking he can still smash someones face into hamburger. im into MMA but im not one of those guys that keep saying technique is everything,it is very important but brute strength is great to have in a fight also,imagine trying to fight a silverback gorilla,i don't give a fuck how much technique u have that gorillas gonna fuck u up real bad.sometimes having to much muscle can cause a fighter to use up massive amounts of oxygen and that's not good if u r in a battle,but that's not always the case, muscle can help out bigtime imo

Even a chimpanzee is five times stronger than a male human being.

[MikMaq]

anyone with muscle can do damage to another person just by the fact that they r probly pretty strong from lifting, even if they don't have training in martial arts they can still hurt someone really bad. imagine having Ronnie coleman ontop of u dropping bombs in your face area ,regardless if Ronnie never had any formal training in striking he can still smash someones face into hamburger. im into MMA but im not one of those guys that keep saying technique is everything,it is very important but brute strength is great to have in a fight also,imagine trying to fight a silverback gorilla,i don't give a fuck how much technique u have that gorillas gonna fuck u up real bad.sometimes having to much muscle can cause a fighter to use up massive amounts of oxygen and that's not good if u r in a battle,but that's not always the case, muscle can help out bigtime imo

X2

Thats the major difference between ring fighting and the real world.

In a bar, weight classes are non existent.

You generally have no track record on your opponent etc.

Not to mention people just instinctively back off from bigger people.

For the first 15 years of your life people bigger than you are boss, that doesn't disappear in adulthood.

[Howard]

anyone with muscle can do damage to another person just by the fact that they r probly pretty strong from lifting, even if they don't have training in martial arts they can still hurt someone really bad. imagine having Ronnie coleman ontop of u dropping bombs in your face area ,regardless if Ronnie never had any formal training in striking he can still smash someones face into hamburger. im into MMA but im not one of those guys that keep saying technique is everything,it is very important but brute strength is great to have in a fight also,imagine trying to fight a silverback gorilla,i don't give a fuck how much technique u have that gorillas gonna fuck u up real bad.sometimes having to much muscle can cause a fighter to use up massive amounts of oxygen and that's not good if u r in a battle,but that's not always the case, muscle can help out bigtime imo

This is why they have wt classes. If size and strength didn't matter all boxers and MMA fighters would compete in 1 wt class.

[ESFitness]

An Alaska man told police that Bristol Palin was “punching him in the face repeatedly” during a wild drunken brawl last month at a house party in Wasilla, Alaska, according to a police report released Thursday.

Both Sarah Palin’s daughter Bristol and her son Track appeared heavily intoxicated when cops arrived after the fight, which involved about 20 people, the report said. Sarah Palin was at the scene when police arrived, but no interview with the 2008 Republican vice presidential candidate is included in the report.


The Alaska Dispatch News posted the police report online. The report consists of a number of separate police reports that were taken at the scene on Sept. 6.

One officer said he “recognized one of the individuals as Sarah Palin and Todd Palin, who appeared upset and in a verbal argument with other individuals at the scene.”

Police said they arrived at the house, owned by Korey Klingenmeyer, to find Track bloodied, apparently intoxicated and shirtless. Track, after being asked to step out of a white limousine that he entered as police arrived, was beside Todd and Sarah Palin, who told him to speak with an officer, the report said.

Police interviewed witnesses at the scene, who said Bristol had punched Klingenmeyer multiple times.

Police said Bristol also appeared heavily intoxicated. Klingenmeyer told police that when Bristol was asked to leave, “she began to get angry with him and began yelling at him” before “punching him in the face repeatedly, using both hands.”
Klingenmeyer, who police reported appeared “moderately intoxicated,” said he held Bristol back and pushed her down as she tried to hit him.
Police reports said Willow Palin, another of the Palins’ daughters, was also at the scene and was “extremely agitated.”

One police officer reported that he “smelled the odor of alcohol coming from Bristol and I observed no visible injuries on her.”
The police report detailed that Bristol confronted a woman who allegedly pushed Willow. Klingenmeyer then pushed Bristol to the ground, and, according to Bristol, “called her a slut over and over,” the report said.

Bristol Palin told officers that someone “pulled her to the ground on the grass by her feet … then someone stole her shoes and sunglasses.”
Track Palin was bloodied, appeared to have injuries to his face and “appeared heavily intoxicated and acted belligerent at first,” the report said.Klingenmeyer, according to the report, told police that “he was angry that the Palins had showed up and were causing the problems.”
Police said Thursday they will not proceed with charges from the altercation, the Alaska Dispatch News reported.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/10/bristol-palin-report-fight-111742.html#ixzz3Fkagyb4i

her son was intoxicated as well? isn't the kid like 2yrs old? lol

[SuperTed]

anyone with muscle can do damage to another person just by the fact that they r probly pretty strong from lifting, even if they don't have training in martial arts they can still hurt someone really bad. imagine having Ronnie coleman ontop of u dropping bombs in your face area ,regardless if Ronnie never had any formal training in striking he can still smash someones face into hamburger. im into MMA but im not one of those guys that keep saying technique is everything,it is very important but brute strength is great to have in a fight also,imagine trying to fight a silverback gorilla,i don't give a fuck how much technique u have that gorillas gonna fuck u up real bad.sometimes having to much muscle can cause a fighter to use up massive amounts of oxygen and that's not good if u r in a battle,but that's not always the case, muscle can help out bigtime imo

Yep, 9 times out of 10, the bigger and stronger guy will win a street brawl.

[ESFitness]

to the original question... it depends.

consider the amount of force generated by a 250lb man when he throws a punch, even if he's untrained and throwing arm punches, compare that to a 180lb man, even if he's throwing a proper strike with proper hip rotation and drive from his back leg/foot.

also, consider the "extra" muscle on the 250lb mans neck/traps that would provide resistance when he's struck and slow down/inhibit the twist of his neck, making it harder to knock him out by his brain 'slappin' on the side of his skull.

also, consider the amount of weight the OTHER GUY would be pushing around. you could toss a sofa made out of wicker across a living room pretty easily, but tossing a leather, or even microfiber sofa across a living room is a different story.. even if you could get one toss, the physical exertion would make subsequent tosses a bit more difficult.

that all being said... the 250lb fella is gonna have a lot more muscle, and he's gonna burn through oxygen much more quickly, even if he's on a treadmill for 45mins everyday, and go into an oxygen-debt much more quickly than a 180lb fella.

[MikMaq]

that all being said... the 250lb fella is gonna have a lot more muscle, and he's gonna burn through oxygen much more quickly, even if he's on a treadmill for 45mins everyday, and go into an oxygen-debt much more quickly than a 180lb fella.

That depends, on how much body weight is factored in. If the little guy has to strain, and the big guy can passively push back, the little guy with tire out his body faster.


Body weight and leverage can take a massive amount of strain away for the taller person. The reality is although anyone can have descent strength in their arms, most big people have far stronger back and leg muscles(for endurancE).

[gracie bjj]

just look at the bob sapp vs big nog fight and man if that would've been on the street big nogs head woulda been opened up like a smashed pumpkin,big nogs lucky that his head hit the canvas instead of concrete.sapp had very little technique but brute force and big nog had awesome technique with some power but not much in terms of weight lifting strength. if any of u guys can download that fight its a perfect example

[_bruce_]

It's often the fragile rats who hit first and land a lucky punch.

[freespirit]

just look at the bob sapp vs big nog fight and man if that would've been on the street big nogs head woulda been opened up like a smashed pumpkin,big nogs lucky that his head hit the canvas instead of concrete.sapp had very little technique but brute force and big nog had awesome technique with some power but not much in terms of weight lifting strength. if any of u guys can download that fight its a perfect example

Bob crybaby Sapp....




 

[gracie bjj]

Bob crybaby Sapp....




 

I know sapp sucks but I was giving an example,sapps tired after 3 minutes