Author Topic: Shitty shoulders mean Great chest....Great shoulders mean shitty chest... (Read 5641 times)

bebop396 · « **on:** October 15, 2014, 03:32:29 AM »

Speak on the reasoning for this...I have my own conclusions...

Prime example? Arnold had a great chest, but subpar shoulders

Phil Heath has great shoulders, but subpar chest

FermiDirac · « **Reply #1 on:** October 15, 2014, 03:43:27 AM »

What about Coleman? Perfect bodybuild shoulders and pecs.

powerbar · « **Reply #2 on:** October 15, 2014, 04:15:02 AM »

My best bodypart is my delts. I've been critiqued on the national stage as having a shallow chest. I'd say that in pressing movements people with stronger shoulders end up taking the stress off their pecs.

anabolichalo · « **Reply #3 on:** October 15, 2014, 04:17:01 AM »

what about shit shoulder and shit chest?

Wolfox · « **Reply #4 on:** October 15, 2014, 04:21:58 AM »

How are your triceps?

probably tricep pressing.

BayGBM · « **Reply #5 on:** October 15, 2014, 04:24:06 AM »

doh!

Go F Yourself · « **Reply #6 on:** October 15, 2014, 04:29:56 AM »

Fucking thank you, ive been kicking around this theory for awhile there are two types of builds in this world. Chest dominant, or shoulder dominant. 99% of gym-bros fall into one these two categories.

shoulder dominant bros are usually have absolutely zero lats, walking stick figures. Most hebrews fall into this category.

i swear you take away these decent shoulders on some of these gym bros and they would even look like they had seen a weight in their life.

that being said my theory is poor mind muscle connection on bench/other compounds, recruiting more shoulders than chest.

Pray_4_War · « **Reply #7 on:** October 15, 2014, 04:44:00 AM »

I'm chest dominant. Deltoids = meh.

I've actually quit training chest and I'm prioritizing deltoids to try to bring my physique into balance.

CDel19 · « **Reply #8 on:** October 15, 2014, 05:47:56 AM »

AGreed! always been chest dominant -Arnold type sloping shoulders-finally look better after trt and deca:) some of thest guys hit a cycle and/or gh and ONLY have good shoulders lol

local hero · « **Reply #9 on:** October 15, 2014, 05:55:47 AM »

The guys with the shoulders tend to have good backs too, at least in my case...

I suffered with shallow chest, I trained it harder everyway imaginable but if the fibres aren't there or they don't respond, not much more you can do

Irongrip400 · « **Reply #10 on:** October 15, 2014, 06:13:31 AM »

Quote from: powerbar on October 15, 2014, 04:15:02 AM

My best bodypart is my delts. I've been critiqued on the national stage as having a shallow chest. I'd say that in pressing movements people with stronger shoulders end up taking the stress off their pecs.

Why no blue stars?

Royalty · « **Reply #11 on:** October 15, 2014, 06:13:46 AM »

There is also this body type division: "Limb Physique" vs "Torso Physique"

Lee Priest (limb) big arms & legs
Lee Haney (torso) big chest & back

the trainer · « **Reply #12 on:** October 15, 2014, 07:16:27 AM »

Quote from: local hero on October 15, 2014, 05:55:47 AM

The guys with the shoulders tend to have good backs too, at least in my case...

I suffered with shallow chest, I trained it harder everyway imaginable but if the fibres aren't there or they don't respond, not much more you can do

You need to get the chest muscles tired before pressing, superset pec deck flyes with dumbbell press, as soon as you do the pec deck flyes go straight to the dumbbells without resting using lighter dumbbells getting a deep stretch at the bottom and squeezing at the top.

local hero · « **Reply #13 on:** October 15, 2014, 07:25:54 AM »

Fuck me! 17 odd years training and somthing I've never tried, thanks for the tip trainer, now I will have mighty pecs just like you

the trainer · « **Reply #14 on:** October 15, 2014, 07:41:00 AM »

Quote from: local hero on October 15, 2014, 07:25:54 AM

Fuck me! 17 odd years training and somthing I've never tried, thanks for the tip trainer, now I will have mighty pecs just like you

Well if its that bad then I have no choice but to turn you over to vince basile he will help you get an extra inch on your pecs in the next few weeks.

Natural Man · « **Reply #15 on:** October 15, 2014, 07:43:28 AM »

shitty poster means shitty thread.

local hero · « **Reply #16 on:** October 15, 2014, 08:33:44 AM »

Quote from: the trainer on October 15, 2014, 07:41:00 AM

Well if its that bad then I have no choice but to turn you over to vince basile he will help you get an extra inch on your pecs in the next few weeks.

I always wonders with vinces super hypertrophy system, what happens once you've gained that extra inch on your pecs or arms, do you gain more next month or does it stop?..im supprused anabollocko hasn't been kept awake at night pondering it???

local hero · « **Reply #17 on:** October 15, 2014, 08:35:27 AM »

Quote from: local hero on October 15, 2014, 08:33:44 AM

I always wonders with Vinces super hypertrophy system, what happens once you've gained that extra inch on your pecs or arms, do you gain more next month or does it stop?..im supprised anabollocko hasn't been kept awake at night pondering it???

Big Chiro Flex · « **Reply #18 on:** October 15, 2014, 08:36:18 AM »

Quote from: local hero on October 15, 2014, 05:55:47 AM

The guys with the shoulders tend to have good backs too, at least in my case...

I suffered with shallow chest, I trained it harder everyway imaginable but if the fibres aren't there or they don't respond, not much more you can do

This is my situation exactly. Full round muscle bellies everywhere except pecs. My coach says I have "Centopanni Syndrome."

local hero · « **Reply #19 on:** October 15, 2014, 08:45:01 AM »

Scent of panties syndrome is a terrible affliction which leads to fear of hitting side chests...

anabolichalo · « **Reply #20 on:** October 15, 2014, 08:45:44 AM »

Quote from: local hero on October 15, 2014, 08:33:44 AM

I always wonders with vinces super hypertrophy system, what happens once you've gained that extra inch on your pecs or arms, do you gain more next month or does it stop?..im supprused anabollocko hasn't been kept awake at night pondering it???

???i never believe the "he may look like shit but he knows his stuff" thing

so i judge a bodybuild advice by his looks

in this case it's fucking shit

bebop396 · « **Reply #21 on:** October 15, 2014, 12:27:58 PM »

I had great shoulders...My chest was shit...Even doing chest flyes with dumbells proabably would not have helped...Would not the front delts take over?

Anyways, I did not mind to much...Big shoulders look better in clothes..

doriancutlerman · « **Reply #22 on:** October 15, 2014, 02:34:18 PM »

Quote from: anabolichalo on October 15, 2014, 08:45:44 AM

???i never believe the "he may look like shit but he knows his stuff" thing

so i judge a bodybuild advice by his looks

in this case it's fucking shit

You know better than that.

I'd rather take advice from a pencilneck who built himself into something with no or minimal drugs than a dude who bounced a bar off his chest for a couple of years as a teen and looked like Bertil Fox.

SF1900 · « **Reply #23 on:** October 15, 2014, 02:40:35 PM »

Good shoulders and back, shit chest. Nothing I do will make it catch up. And ive tried everything!

doriancutlerman · « **Reply #24 on:** October 15, 2014, 02:43:39 PM »

What about Gary Strydom? Great shoulders, great pecs.

Someone mentioned Haney as a torso-dominant dude. While that's largely true, he had some big delts on him plus those giant pecs.

And a bunch of people don't give Dorian his due for very big delts and thick pecs.

Franco had good shoulders and pecs. So did Roy Callendar.

Nasser had a pretty good chest on him in addition to great delts, and that was before he went nuts with site-injecting all of those panty-sniffer weirdos' semen into his shoulders and arms (yes, Alex, Fallsview and all of your other "stay positive!" chickenshit gimmicks, I'm looking at you).

Branch Warren has good delts and, before the tears, had great pecs.

There is something to the torso-dominant/limb-dominant bodytype, but plenty of people have built great delts and pecs -- and sometimes, even great arms atop that.

Poor Ronnie. Time has every man's number.