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45 minutes does not work in the gym
« on: October 17, 2014, 08:20:21 AM »
I started working out this morning at 5am doing shoulders and calves and when I finished it was 7am, now it makes me wonder about you guys who finish your workout in 45 min, there is no way you are working out hard unless you are doing HIT, you are kidding yourself in the gym which is why you dont see progress.

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Re: 45 minutes does not work in the gym
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2014, 08:22:47 AM »
How much do you rest between your sets?

45min is plenty if you got the intensity dialed in.

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Re: 45 minutes does not work in the gym
« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2014, 08:23:00 AM »

cool story brah
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Re: 45 minutes does not work in the gym
« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2014, 08:35:52 AM »
How much do you rest between your sets?

45min is plenty if you got the intensity dialed in.

If you are lifting very heavy for 8 reps and doing high volume you cannot finish in 45 min unless you are doing some kind of crossfit light weight training with very little rest between sets.

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Re: 45 minutes does not work in the gym
« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2014, 08:38:39 AM »
Less than 30, always, not counting 10-15 min warm-up. All comes down to between-set rest.

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Re: 45 minutes does not work in the gym
« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2014, 08:40:20 AM »
If you are lifting very heavy for 8 reps and doing high volume you cannot finish in 45 min unless you are doing some kind of crossfit light weight training with very little rest between sets.

As I said, it all depends on how much you rest between the sets. Even with 50% downtime in resting you still have 22.5 min left for exercising, which should be enough for 22 solid sets.

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Re: 45 minutes does not work in the gym
« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2014, 08:45:55 AM »
Generally takes me about 30 min and that's with doing basically three specific bodyparts each workout (sometimes 4 to 5 when doing abs/calves). It is all about rest period as has already been said and supersets sometimes.

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Re: 45 minutes does not work in the gym
« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2014, 08:54:28 AM »
As I said, it all depends on how much you rest between the sets. Even with 50% downtime in resting you still have 22.5 min left for exercising, which should be enough for 22 solid sets.

Can you do this in 45 min going very heavy.

5 sets seated dumbbell press
5 sets barbell front raises
5 sets side laterals
5 sets rear laterals
3 sets barbell shrugs
2 sets dumbbell shrugs
4 sets neck plate resistance face up
4 sets neck plate resistance face down
5 sets of seated calf raises
5 sets of standing calf raises

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Re: 45 minutes does not work in the gym
« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2014, 08:55:59 AM »
I tend to train for 2 hours. I don't like to rush between sets.

But believe me; I can bust out a 45 minute workout if I have a tight schedule.

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Re: 45 minutes does not work in the gym
« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2014, 08:58:07 AM »
Can you do this in 45 min going very heavy.

5 sets seated dumbbell press
5 sets barbell front raises
5 sets side laterals
5 sets rear laterals
3 sets barbell shrugs
2 sets dumbbell shrugs
4 sets neck plate resistance face up
4 sets neck plate resistance face down
5 sets of seated calf raises
5 sets of standing calf raises

No way, but that many sets is ridiculous, and only possible if you're resting several minutes in between. In which case: why?

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Re: 45 minutes does not work in the gym
« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2014, 09:00:09 AM »
Can you do this in 45 min going very heavy.

5 sets seated dumbbell press
5 sets barbell front raises
5 sets side laterals
5 sets rear laterals
3 sets barbell shrugs
2 sets dumbbell shrugs
4 sets neck plate resistance face up
4 sets neck plate resistance face down
5 sets of seated calf raises
5 sets of standing calf raises

Probably not, but I don't see the point in doing 35+ sets either.  :-\

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Re: 45 minutes does not work in the gym
« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2014, 09:01:55 AM »
No way, but that many sets is ridiculous, and only possible if you're resting several minutes in between. In which case: why?

Its called high volume training that is what bodybuilders in the 70s and 80s use to do and it worked very well for them they look better than the bodybuilders of today.

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Re: 45 minutes does not work in the gym
« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2014, 09:04:58 AM »
Can you do this in 45 min going very heavy.

5 sets seated dumbbell press
5 sets barbell front raises
5 sets side laterals
5 sets rear laterals
3 sets barbell shrugs
2 sets dumbbell shrugs
4 sets neck plate resistance face up
4 sets neck plate resistance face down
5 sets of seated calf raises
5 sets of standing calf raises

I did back and shoulders the other day
warm up with resistance bands
Two warm up sets of machine pulldowns then loaded it to 120kilos
repped out, stopped 10 seconds then repped out again quick pause and repped out again, did that twice

Next Lat pulldowns
80k same as machine with resistance band work between sets.
Reverse pec deck for rear delts 80kilo2 drop sets

machine press 2 drop sets supersetted with resistance band side laterals.

Done in 25 minutes tops

Wet through and gassed.

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Re: 45 minutes does not work in the gym
« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2014, 09:08:41 AM »
1 hour tops is enough for 1 muscle group even large ones. A workout with so many exercises and overlap is not needed.

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Re: 45 minutes does not work in the gym
« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2014, 09:12:20 AM »
Its called high volume training that is what bodybuilders in the 70s and 80s use to do and it worked very well for them they look better than the bodybuilders of today.

Everyone knows what it's called, and I agree most of those guys looked better than anyone today. But Haney and Labrada looked fantastic as well, and they weren't buying it.

Bottom line, though, even if it's merely comparable, wouldn't you rather spend less time for similar results? I mean, you're gonna be back tomorrow.

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Re: 45 minutes does not work in the gym
« Reply #15 on: October 17, 2014, 09:20:36 AM »
I did back and shoulders the other day
warm up with resistance bands
Two warm up sets of machine pulldowns then loaded it to 120kilos
repped out, stopped 10 seconds then repped out again quick pause and repped out again, did that twice

Next Lat pulldowns
80k same as machine with resistance band work between sets.
Reverse pec deck for rear delts 80kilo2 drop sets

machine press 2 drop sets supersetted with resistance band side laterals.

Done in 25 minutes tops

Wet through and gassed.

So you are doing a form for HIT training, there are two ways to train HIT or high volume, with high volume there are no rest pause, force reps etc you go to failure rest then go again, but if you are training for 30 min and not doing force reps etc then you are not stimulating the muscles hard enough.

The advantage of high volume training is that you can hit the muscles from so many angles since you are doing a lot of sets, you cannot do that with HIT.

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Re: 45 minutes does not work in the gym
« Reply #16 on: October 17, 2014, 09:26:25 AM »
I tend to train for 2 hours. I don't like to rush between sets.

But believe me; I can bust out a 45 minute workout if I have a tight schedule.
This.

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Re: 45 minutes does not work in the gym
« Reply #17 on: October 17, 2014, 09:26:39 AM »
So you are doing a form for HIT training, there are two ways to train HIT or high volume, with high volume there are no rest pause, force reps etc you go to failure rest then go again, but if you are training for 30 min and not doing force reps etc then you are not stimulating the muscles hard enough.

The advantage of high volume training is that you can hit the muscles from so many angles since you are doing a lot of sets, you cannot do that with HIT.
Yet you look so bad you wont post a pic.

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Re: 45 minutes does not work in the gym
« Reply #18 on: October 17, 2014, 09:30:29 AM »
How long should this take?

5 sets Squats
5 sets Bench
5 sets Bent Rows
5 sets Military Presses
3 sets barbell curls
3 sets lying tricep extensions.

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Re: 45 minutes does not work in the gym
« Reply #19 on: October 17, 2014, 09:31:28 AM »
Idiot  ::)

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Re: 45 minutes does not work in the gym
« Reply #20 on: October 17, 2014, 09:33:51 AM »
If you are lifting very heavy for 8 reps and doing high volume you cannot finish in 45 min unless you are doing some kind of crossfit light weight training with very little rest between sets.

the bolded is an oxymoron, moron

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Re: 45 minutes does not work in the gym
« Reply #21 on: October 17, 2014, 09:37:24 AM »
lol trainer is a fucking moron

even mr . Olympia trains for 45-1 hour


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Re: 45 minutes does not work in the gym
« Reply #22 on: October 17, 2014, 09:44:00 AM »
45 min is plenty of time unless I'm doing cardio.

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Re: 45 minutes does not work in the gym
« Reply #23 on: October 17, 2014, 09:54:02 AM »
lol trainer is a fucking moron

even mr . Olympia trains for 45-1 hour



This Mr Olympia worked out over 2 hours daily 6 days per week, bodybuilders these days are a bunch of pussies they just walk from machine to machine looking half asleep they cant handle hardcore training.



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Re: 45 minutes does not work in the gym
« Reply #24 on: October 17, 2014, 09:55:17 AM »
No reason to take more then a hour and around 4 working exercises per body part. If you need more volume do extra sets... 2hrs for shoulders is fucking stupid