This muscle mania competitor natural?

[calfzilla]

If not, is this achievable naturally?

[thebrink]

no

end of discussion

[_aj_]

TA will be here momentarily to tell you dipshits that this man is, in fact, a natural. And TA knows it because this man said so. Case closed.

[dave19]

The question "is this achievable naturally" is pointless since the natural limit can be very different from person to person.

I think that some people will be able to get to this level of muscularity while being this lean but then I'm absolutely sure that there are human
beings that will never achieve this - and no not just because of what they are doing but even if they would do everything right they'd still not get there.

In my opinion there are a few (very few) genetic freaks that will look awesome as a natural - of course not IFBB pro awesome but close to some MuscleMania guys, with some exceptions and
a few small differences. Then there are some with good genes, way above average .. like a lot of black guys .. and those guys can still look pretty damn good like a fitness guy without touching any AAS.
Then there's the average Joe who will end up looking athletic and fit but will never look like a bodybuilder.. swimmer look .. might even get pretty big and pretty strong but with a good amount of fat or certainly
can get very very lean, just as lean as someone on steroids but will be small then. At the bottom there are the anti-freaks who have a hard time ever looking like they actually work out ... those guys that go to
the gym for several years and take their diets more serious than some competitors all while looking like a skinny-fat nerd.. those guys will never look anywhere near impressive, the highest they can go is that they look like they do some sort of sports as a hobby like soccer or playing basketball with their kids... some of these guys will not even look good on national level comp. cycles..

[Never1AShow]

Possible gyno on right nipple?

[Knooger]

Possible gyno on right nipple?

Horrendous gyno on right nipple.

[Lobstah]

Possible gyno lobstah on right nipple?

Horrendous gyno lobstah on right nipple.

fixed.
sigh.

[trapz101]

no

end of discussion

according to TA yes it's possible

[local hero]

no

end of discussion

Discussion open.... He looks like a track athlete, I don't see obvious sings of abuse, there's football (soccer) players with similar builds..

[heenok]

Discussion open.... He looks like a track athlete, I don't see obvious sings of abuse, there's football (soccer) players with similar builds..

 

[visualizeperfection]

I would believe it if I knew the dude, and could vouch that he has trained consistently since like high school, and has a good diet.


serious.

I would buy that the guy is natural for sure.

[Bevo]

The question "is this achievable naturally" is pointless since the natural limit can be very different from person to person.

I think that some people will be able to get to this level of muscularity while being this lean but then I'm absolutely sure that there are human
beings that will never achieve this - and no not just because of what they are doing but even if they would do everything right they'd still not get there.

In my opinion there are a few (very few) genetic freaks that will look awesome as a natural - of course not IFBB pro awesome but close to some MuscleMania guys, with some exceptions and
a few small differences. Then there are some with good genes, way above average .. like a lot of black guys .. and those guys can still look pretty damn good like a fitness guy without touching any AAS.
Then there's the average Joe who will end up looking athletic and fit but will never look like a bodybuilder.. swimmer look .. might even get pretty big and pretty strong but with a good amount of fat or certainly
can get very very lean, just as lean as someone on steroids but will be small then. At the bottom there are the anti-freaks who have a hard time ever looking like they actually work out ... those guys that go to
the gym for several years and take their diets more serious than some competitors all while looking like a skinny-fat nerd.. those guys will never look anywhere near impressive, the highest they can go is that they look like they do some sort of sports as a hobby like soccer or playing basketball with their kids... some of these guys will not even look good on national level comp. cycles..

A lot of black guys actually don't have good genetics, talking about general population , this is all perception. good genetics are few far and in between across the spectrum.

[Method101]

I don't think that guy is natural...

example of natural limit here;

[visualizeperfection]

I don't think that guy is natural...

example of natural limit here;

Oh bullshit.

[local hero]

He isn't that big or ripped, why the rolled eyes... Not as if he's Simeon panda or skip la cur

[Method101]

Oh bullshit.

what's bullshit about that?

[SuperTed]

If not, is this achievable naturally?

Achievable naturally with good genes imo.

[Method101]

Achievable naturally with good genes imo.

Keep believing sucker.

He isn't that big or ripped, why the rolled eyes... Not as if he's Simeon panda or skip la cur

He has a massive gyno lump for fucks sake, unless he's one of the 1 in 20 men who get that during puberty then it came from other means.

[SuperTed]

Keep believing sucker.
He has a massive gyno lump for fucks sake, unless he's one of the 1 in 20 men who get that during puberty then it came from other means.

I never said this guy is natural, but more that his build could be achieved naturally.

Need to see more pics of this guy to make a more accurate guess though. No homo.

[Julio Ceasar]

Gyno, belly stand out, shoulders are hard and pumped. The man is around 30 something...very very few guys can achive that low bodyfat lever mixed with that muscle tihickness and fullness at that age! If u want that low bodyfat u need a LOT of cardio as a natural! And with all that cardio u need, u cant have those tights! Some people have natural low bodyfat percent but those guys are also twinks who cant build muscles. This dude i jacked full and ripped!

Not natural, no chance! People who calim it dosent really understand what awsome physic this dude has...go out in daylight take a picture of yourself relaxed NOT pumped ut before a mirror in kitchenlight! U will understand what Im talking about!

Most people are very delusional. And this is NOT a track and field physic. He is about 25 punds heavier than that! ANd would be DEAD LAST in a tracknfield competition, to heavy, to clumsy!

Since fitnessbodybuildinginsud try took marke it have changed peoples opinion what is possible natural or not bcz there are so mother fucking lot of liars out there I cant stand it anymore!

[Julio Ceasar]

I never said this guy is natural, but more that his build could be achieved naturally.

Need to see more pics of this guy to make a more accurate guess though. No homo.

Please give us a relaxed picture of yourself of drugfree for atleast 1-2 year! Not pumped up, no kitchen lightning, no mirrorpicture U will understand what natural is!

[Method101]

Gyno, belly stand out, shoulders are hard and pumped. The man is around 30 something...very very few guys NOBODY can achive that low bodyfat lever mixed with that muscle tihickness and fullness at that age!

fixed.

[Julio Ceasar]

This is what a natural fit dude with low fat% looks like! Your brains are all washed out from the fitness industri with modells on roids! Take a fucking look at early Tarzan movies! Thats what u have without steroids!

Now compare this picture with the one abow and u will soon realise how far the gap is in muscle maturity fullnes size!

[TrueGrit]

Pretty sure that all the muscle mania guys are natty. It's designed to be a safe haven for those athletes that wish to pursue the drug free path.

It's a great organization.

[SuperTed]

Please give us a relaxed picture of yourself of drugfree for atleast 1-2 year! Not pumped up, no kitchen lightning, no mirrorpicture U will understand what natural is!

I am natural and don't have the genetics to look as good as this guy. No way.

However, I do think a small percentile of people could possibly achieve that look naturally even if the vast majority would require gear to do so.
That's just going by that one pic though.