Terrorist attack in Canada, Multiple shooters on the loose

[Natural Man]

No one is innocent, every single individual on earth has private interests he's fighting for.

[_bruce_]

No one is innocent, every single individual on earth has private interests he's fighting for.

Exactly - time to lift the veil and go for it.

[Natural Man]

Muslim convert  Michael Zehaf-Bibeau who shot dead Canadian soldier is the privately-educated son of country’s immigration chief and has links to Syrian terrorist claims friend from mosque

lol

Dude parents divorced in 1999, mother is french canadian, father is a lybian muslim who got arrested and did jail time in the 80s. Another product of multiculturalism and a dysfunctional family. An isolated anti social headcase who embraced ...islam.

[El Diablo Blanco]

Holy fuck at the overreaction of one random death.  This shit happens hundreds of times a day in the US.

[Natural Man]

Holy fuck at the overreaction of one random death.  This shit happens hundreds of times a day in the US.

Agree, people only care cause a symbolic spot was attacked, but there are murders everywhere every day and no one gives much of a damn about them.

[JOHN MATRIX]

Islam.

[_aj_]

The guy is posing with a lever action .22 like I had when I was 8. 

[Archer77]

The guy is posing with a lever action .22 like I had when I was 8. 

You'll shoot your eye out  kid!

[thebrink]

6 months ago nobody knew who ISIS was.

now it's the new boogeyman.

it used to be al Qaida.

funny how after al Qaida is finally snuffed out, this new dangerous terrorist Organisation springs up like a Phoenix from the ashes.

but this one is even BIGGER and MORE ORGANISED than al Qaida! help me jesus!

but nobody even knew who they were last spring.

funny how when the US wants to keep it's global war machine going a new enemy just pops up for them to fight. and unseen enemy that can be in any number of counties that the US doesn't dare go into w/o 'provocation'.

convenient.

and now sadly you get 3 dildos watching haji videos on the Internet who decide to go and shoot up our Parliment showing other such dildos worldwide they too can commit little acts of terrorism and be heros.

you've created a goddamn monster now. this one is even more dangerous. it's anyone w a broadband connection and access to fundamentalist rhetoric all aimed at the US and anyone who's considered a 'western country'.  not just us. this violence is going to affect countries globally.

people who don't see the parallels between US behaviour globally starting in the 70's w financing bin laden to where we are now are blind to the truth and drinking the Koolaid.

you created a monster that hates you, and because of that now hates us.

This is truth.

Adonis will undoubtedly argue against it for the sake of looking for an argument but don't bother trying to inflict your common sense on him its a waste of your time.

[Archer77]

This is truth.

Adonis will undoubtedly argue against it for the sake of looking for an argument but don't bother trying to inflict your common sense on him its a waste of your time.

General Petraeus gives a little insight on the matter.

Was there any intelligence on ISIS when you were CIA director?

ISIS in a sense is the evolution of an organization that we did defeat, Al-Qaeda in Iraq. Some of the very hard work we did to help reestablish the fabric of Iraqi society -- to bring the Sunni Arabs back into Iraqi society and give them an incentive to support the new Iraq rather than to oppose it -- was undone. It created fertile ground once again for the planting of the seeds of extremism and alienated the Sunni Arab component of Iraqi society.

What really revived Al-Qaeda in Iraq and turned them into the Islamic State [ISIS] was the civil war in Syria. They grew, gained experience and could identify competent leaders and then begin to capture arms, funding and generate significant resources to enable their expansion. People saw ISIS coming, even out of the intelligence world, it was well-known what ISIS was doing in Syria.

http://www.post-gazette.com/ae/breakfast/2014/10/20/Patricia-Sheridan-s-Breakfast-With-Gen-David-Petraeus/stories/201410200010

[thebrink]

Tell him to do his own research.

Conspiracy theorist response 102.

lol conspiracy theorist to you is anyone who questions what the media feeds them  

[Archer77]

lol conspiracy theorist to you is anyone who questions what the media feeds them  

Do you also question any of the other sources that are not mainstream media?   If you do, do you question them as vigorously?

[Simple Simon]

lol conspiracy theorist to you is anyone who questions what the media feeds them  

No it isnt, its an individual who spouts alternative theories with zero evidence to back up his claims.

[El Diablo Blanco]

The fact I am hearing politicians saying they should have left Saddam in power goes to show you what a major fuck up this whole war has been.

[thebrink]

No it isnt, its an individual who spouts alternative theories with zero evidence to back up his claims.

And a true believer will adsorb whatever they're told even if they don't see the evidence for themselves.

[El Diablo Blanco]

I thought Bush and Rumsfeld said the Aab world would welcome the US with open arms.  Maybe they meant guns and not actual arms

[El Diablo Blanco]

No it isnt, its an individual who spouts alternative theories with zero evidence to back up his claims.

Sort of like any religious person?

[thebrink]

Sort of like any religious person?

boom

[The True Adonis]

The fact I am hearing politicians saying they should have left Saddam in power goes to show you what a major fuck up this whole war has been.

Well, this just came out.  They actually did find WMD in Iraq but did keep it top secret, even from Congress.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/10/14/world/middleeast/us-casualties-of-iraq-chemical-weapons.html

The Secret Casualties of Iraq’s Abandoned Chemical Weapons
By C. J. CHIVERS


“I felt more like a guinea pig than a wounded soldier,” said a former Army sergeant who suffered mustard burns in 2007 and was denied hospital treatment and medical evacuation to the United States despite requests from his commander.

Congress, too, was only partly informed, while troops and officers were instructed to be silent or give deceptive accounts of what they had found. “ 'Nothing of significance’ is what I was ordered to say,” said Jarrod Lampier, a recently retired Army major who was present for the largest chemical weapons discovery of the war: more than 2,400 nerve-agent rockets unearthed in 2006 at a former Republican Guard compound.

Jarrod L. Taylor, a former Army sergeant on hand for the destruction of mustard shells that burned two soldiers in his infantry company, joked of “wounds that never happened” from “that stuff that didn’t exist.” The public, he said, was misled for a decade. “I love it when I hear, ‘Oh there weren’t any chemical weapons in Iraq,’ ” he said. “There were plenty.”

[_aj_]

Well, this just came out.  They actually did find WMD in Iraq but did keep it top secret, even from Congress.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/10/14/world/middleeast/us-casualties-of-iraq-chemical-weapons.html

The Secret Casualties of Iraq’s Abandoned Chemical Weapons
By C. J. CHIVERS


“I felt more like a guinea pig than a wounded soldier,” said a former Army sergeant who suffered mustard burns in 2007 and was denied hospital treatment and medical evacuation to the United States despite requests from his commander.

Congress, too, was only partly informed, while troops and officers were instructed to be silent or give deceptive accounts of what they had found. “ 'Nothing of significance’ is what I was ordered to say,” said Jarrod Lampier, a recently retired Army major who was present for the largest chemical weapons discovery of the war: more than 2,400 nerve-agent rockets unearthed in 2006 at a former Republican Guard compound.

Jarrod L. Taylor, a former Army sergeant on hand for the destruction of mustard shells that burned two soldiers in his infantry company, joked of “wounds that never happened” from “that stuff that didn’t exist.” The public, he said, was misled for a decade. “I love it when I hear, ‘Oh there weren’t any chemical weapons in Iraq,’ ” he said. “There were plenty.”

Watch for the redefinition of WMD to include only nukes.

[El Diablo Blanco]

Politicians are snakes.  When the USA was hungry for war, they all voted, when the majority of the public hated the war they all started to backtrack about voting for the war and now with ISIS they are hungry for war again.  Vicious cycle.

[Fortress]

MUSLIMS are not the problem. this is a widely held and ignorant view. a lot of muslims are widely progressive in their beliefs and peaceful people- ismalis for example. its the fundamentalist that is the root of the problem.

drill out the cavity, dont pull out healthy teeth.

See, this is mind-boggling to me.

How can anyone claim to be a Muslim who ISN'T a follower of the MUSLIM HANDBOOK?! If you are "progressive and peaceful", you are NOT a Muslim. Period.

The very book they view as their guide to life and their spiritualism calls for a way of life that contradicts OUR way of life.

I am endlessly baffled with folks like you.

[Natural Man]

Politicians are snakes.  When the USA was hungry for war, they all voted, when the majority of the public hated the war they all started to backtrack about voting for the war and now with ISIS they are hungry for war again.  Vicious cycle.

As long as people enlist in the army to save the world get paid cause they cant do anything else this will keep going on.

[El Diablo Blanco]

See, this is mind-boggling to me.

How can anyone claim to be a Muslim who ISN'T a follower of the MUSLIM HANDBOOK?! If you are "progressive and peaceful", you are NOT a Muslim. Period.

The very book they view as their guide to life and their spiritualism calls for a way of life that contradicts OUR way of life.

I am endlessly baffled with folks like you.

So on the flip side the bible says a cheating bitch should die.  So that would mean about 40% of married women should be executed.  Same as gays not existing.  So are you saying any christian that doesn't kill gays or cheating wives cannot be viewed as christian? 

the whole islam is evil thing is a play on hatred.  People spouting shit like the quaran is evil yet they can't quote shit are stupid.  The Bible and Quaran were written in shitty times and in shitty areas of the world.  Basically where nomads reigned supreme.  Their relevance today is very minimal so people started to interpret all "holy" books as they see fit to settle their agenda.
The Jews want you to beleive that it is just about hate about them.  Self centered fucks think the whole world revolves are them.  There is a small truth to that but the Jews aren't the center of the violence.  A lot of it came from the secular split in Islam where one group became too hard core and another tried to be progressive and in the middle a lot of people got caught up. 

This issue has nothing to do with religion.  It is about a power grab that was left open by the US occupation.  When ISIS is saying follow islam or die, they don't mean that.  What they are saying is believe in what we teach you or die whether it is islam related or not.  Its thuggery at its finest.
The fact that a muslim guy kills a soldier is labelled a terrorist but if a white or black man of catholic reigion shot that soldier it would have just been a crime and not a terrorist act.  The label is spewed by the media to create this villain and to put everyone else in the light of innocence which is pure bullshit.I wish the USA would be honest about attacking ISIS and not because its a threat to the USA but that its a threat to the middle east.  If this group takes over a bunch of countries will be under a pseudo military rule with henchmen in charge of their only resource which is OIL.  The saudis are scared to death that their country will wake the fuck up and overthrow these pig sheiks that filter all the oil for themselves and shit in solid gold toilets and pay celine dione $10 million to sing them happy birthday while there are people living in shitty conditions in that country.  They aren't afraid of ISIS as is, but they are afraid of ISIS waking their people up to the corruption that has occured for centuries.  After the civil war in lebanon the muslims and christrians found a way to live together peacefully but a small group in Hamas takes the media attention away from their wanting to rule the country.  It is part of the worl where there exists a bigger divide between the haves and have nots and the have nots who were under dictatorship rule for centuries are finally getting to take out their hostility.  This whole event will take another few decades to play out before all settles again and the USA is happy to be at war that entire time.

[The True Adonis]

The fact I am hearing politicians saying they should have left Saddam in power goes to show you what a major fuck up this whole war has been.

As Sam Harris Stated:

 "But take a moment to appreciate how bleak it is to admit that the world would be better off if we had left Saddam Hussein in power. Here was one of the most evil men who ever lived, holding an entire country hostage. And yet his tyranny was also preventing a religious war between Shia and Sunni, the massacre of Christians, and other sectarian horrors. To say that we should have left Saddam Hussein alone says some very depressing things about the Muslim world."