skorp has one of the best athletic lloking/muscular tall man build's here ,irish guy big dave being tall as well too ..skorp has good shape and perfect what the look he wants it seems not overly freaky hard condition or vascular 'just good skin tone and lean enough,,,groink is a big dude and like what we all do here post our best pics or to flatter the best bodypart or pose... it is what it is ...he's def got in good condition last few yrs and just keeps it there...simon i always praise as well he's tuned into keeping a peak build and he's pretty big as well overall..