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The Republican Party is Dead
« on: October 30, 2014, 11:14:45 AM »
Just thought I would chronicle their demise in this thread.  Check back for regular updates.  And someone let me know when the funeral is.

And yes, if the party actually dies, or suffers mortal wounds, I'll post it right here. 
 

Majority Of Millennials Turn On Obama, Favor a GOP-Led Congress

Oct 29, 2014
By BENJAMIN SIEGEL

Many Democrats who are fighting to win re-election next week were swept into office with President Obama in 2008, with the help of millennial voters.

Now, more than half of likely 18-29 year-old voters want a Republican-led Congress, according to a new poll from the Harvard University Institute of Politics.

It’s a marked shift for the youngest and largest generation of voters, who have supported Democrats reliably since 2004.

The group now appears more in line with the rest of the country.

Economic, Political Discontent Make for a Midterm Double Punch

Record Disapproval for Dems in Congress, Poll Shows

Millennials who said they will “definitely be voting” favor a Republican-led Congress 51-47 percent, according to the poll. An ABC News/Washington Post poll released earlier this week found that roughly half of Americans plan to vote for Republicans this election, 50-44 percent.

The two polls had identical approval ratings for Obama’s performance, at 43 percent.

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According to Harvard/IOP poll, 46 percent of young Hispanic voters approve of the president, down from 60 percent this spring, a troubling sign for Democrats counting on Hispanic support in places like Colorado.

The poll found that millennials continue to support Democrats overall, and trust the party to handle issues like race relations, immigration and foreign policy, but the fact that the millennials most motivated to vote favor Republicans makes the group a “swing constituency,” according to John Della Volpe, the IOP’s director of polling.

According to Della Volpe, many of the millennials voting next week have come of age under Obama with no memory of the second Bush administration that drove many young voters to the Democratic Party in 2008.

“We may be looking at the third wave of millennials,” Della Volpe said. “Their first experience is really about two major events: a recession and a gridlocked Congress … When you look at is this way, it’s not surprising that they’re up for grabs.”

Republican National Committee spokesman Raffi Williams said today the poll showed that millennials are “sick and tired of the false promises from Democrats.”

Democrats said the poll showed frustration with Washington gridlock, and not the Democratic Party.

“Young people are looking for solutions, be they from inside or outside of government, but they approach this conversation from a core belief in the values that Democrats continue to stand for,” said Democratic National Committee spokesperson Rob Flaherty.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/majority-millennials-turn-obama-favor-gop-led-congress/story?id=26553815

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Re: The Republican Party is Dead
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2014, 12:18:39 PM »
You can say what you want about political parties- good and bad, but truth is BOTH parties sold America down the river long ago

The Republicans though - at least they stand for SOMETHING and talk about the rule of law, federalism, states rights, checks and balances, separation of powers, proper judicial review and it's application and try harder to remain consistent than the huge number of  socialist, communists etc.. of the Democratic party 

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Re: The Republican Party is Dead
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2014, 12:38:25 PM »
You can say what you want about political parties- good and bad, but truth is BOTH parties sold America down the river long ago

The Republicans though - at least they stand for SOMETHING and talk about the rule of law, federalism, states rights, checks and balances, separation of powers, proper judicial review and it's application and try harder to remain consistent than the huge number of  socialist, communists etc.. of the Democratic party 

I think on paper that conservatism is superior to liberalism, but I agree that both parties suck.  Money has corrupted the system.  There are very few in DC that I respect, regardless of party. 

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Re: The Republican Party is Dead
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2014, 12:41:20 PM »
It is dead. Bush and his retarded former followers killed the repub party at the executive level. That's why the American people voted a black muslim commie into presidency. Next elected will be a woman Democrat.

You deserve it for bush. Its your punishment but you will benefit from it. You wont have to deal with another horrible repub. Complain all you want but deep down inside you know Dems are better.

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Re: The Republican Party is Dead
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2014, 12:51:35 PM »
It is dead. Bush and his retarded former followers killed the repub party at the executive level. That's why the American people voted a black muslim commie into presidency. Next elected will be a woman Democrat.

You deserve it for bush. Its your punishment but you will benefit from it. You wont have to deal with another horrible repub. Complain all you want but deep down inside you know Dems are better.



Why do you think Republicans hold the House, are poised to take the Senate, and hold a majority of governorships and state legislatures? 

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Re: The Republican Party is Dead
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2014, 02:53:15 PM »
Why do you think Republicans hold the House, are poised to take the Senate, and hold a majority of governorships and state legislatures? 

Why do you think a black commie muslim president was voted in TWICE in America to be the most powerful man in the world?

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Re: The Republican Party is Dead
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2014, 02:59:29 PM »
It is dead. Bush and his retarded former followers killed the repub party at the executive level. That's why the American people voted a black muslim commie into presidency. Next elected will be a woman Democrat.

You deserve it for bush. Its your punishment but you will benefit from it. You wont have to deal with another horrible repub. Complain all you want but deep down inside you know Dems are better.




So you're not even American? Another bleeding heart foreigner who worships Obama and knows what's better for us than we do?

He was elected twice most likely because the majority of Americans are easily fooled and many are painfully dumb, ignorant, indifferent, etc.
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Re: The Republican Party is Dead
« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2014, 03:11:10 PM »
I think on paper that conservatism is superior to liberalism, but I agree that both parties suck.  Money has corrupted the system.  There are very few in DC that I respect, regardless of party. 

If you think conservatism is better than being a progressive you are out of your mind...Conservatism means standing still.......denying science.....keeping minorities in their place, and limited thinking all so as to maintain the status quo.....Liberalism means moving forward towards a more inclusive society.....yes money has corrupted both parties..I agree with that..

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Re: The Republican Party is Dead
« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2014, 03:32:51 PM »
If you think conservatism is better than being a progressive you are out of your mind...Conservatism means standing still.......denying science.....keeping minorities in their place, and limited thinking all so as to maintain the status quo.....Liberalism means moving forward towards a more inclusive society.....yes money has corrupted both parties..I agree with that..

So?   Comminists like yourself should be excluded

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« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2014, 04:45:41 PM »
If you think conservatism is better than being a progressive you are out of your mind...Conservatism means standing still.......denying science.....keeping minorities in their place, and limited thinking all so as to maintain the status quo.....Liberalism means moving forward towards a more inclusive society.....yes money has corrupted both parties..I agree with that..
yup and liberalism is all about free love, gay sex and taking money from others to help support your drug habits.

Hyperbole...not just for libtards anymore ;)

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Re: The Republican Party is Dead
« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2014, 04:55:42 PM »
yup and liberalism is all about free love, gay sex and taking money from others to help support your drug habits.

Hyperbole...not just for libtards anymore ;)

Last I heard, there are a whole lot of Rebublicans/conservatives involved in free sex, gay sex, and usiung drugs as well......Liberals are just not hypocritical about it.....

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Re: The Republican Party is Dead
« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2014, 04:57:54 PM »
Last I heard, there are a whole lot of Rebublicans/conservatives involved in free sex, gay sex, and usiung drugs as well......Liberals are just not hypocritical about it.....
yes b/c no liberals deny science, try to keep minorities in their place and limit thinking...LMFAO really retard?

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Re: The Republican Party is Dead
« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2014, 05:17:54 PM »
If you think conservatism is better than being a progressive you are out of your mind...Conservatism means standing still.......denying science.....keeping minorities in their place, and limited thinking all so as to maintain the status quo.....Liberalism means moving forward towards a more inclusive society.....yes money has corrupted both parties..I agree with that..

What's a progressive?  It's just another word for "liberal," because liberal became a dirty word. 

But I disagree.  Liberalism, which stands for bigger government, higher taxes, class warfare, government dependency, etc. is a proven failure and is bad policy. 

True conservatism, which stands for smaller government, lower taxes, individual responsibility, a strong national defense, etc. is just flat out better policy.  Better for Americans individually and collectively. 

The problem is conservatives who get elected resort to becoming the typical politician, concerned only with staying in power, catering to special interests, following the money, etc. 

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Re: The Republican Party is Dead
« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2014, 05:43:51 PM »
What's a progressive?

I think it's code for "keeps winning the white house".



All kidding aside, until the GOp wins the white house, they're going to be ineffective.  Executive order is insanely powerful now, and obama is using it almost as much as Bush did.  House repubs could manage a stalemate for 4 years, but obama still got his bullshit thru, half of it.  owning the senate is nice, but without the white house, repubs aren't going to be able to change anything. 

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Re: The Republican Party is Dead
« Reply #14 on: October 30, 2014, 05:45:28 PM »
Why do you think a black commie muslim president was voted in TWICE in America to be the most powerful man in the world?



You answer my question and I'll answer yours.

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Re: The Republican Party is Dead
« Reply #15 on: October 30, 2014, 09:46:50 PM »
Why do you think Republicans hold the House, are poised to take the Senate, and hold a majority of governorships and state legislatures? 

Because Dems never do well in mid terms.

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Re: The Republican Party is Dead
« Reply #16 on: October 31, 2014, 08:33:15 AM »
Because Dems never do well in mid terms.

O Rly?  So why didn't they retake the House in 2012?  And what difference would midterms make if the Republican Party is dead?  Unless it's not really dead? 

Also, that doesn't explain Republicans holding a majority of governorships and state legislatures.  

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Re: The Republican Party is Dead
« Reply #17 on: October 31, 2014, 08:36:15 AM »
How can this be?   ???

Obama’s Midterm Loss Record Could Make History
By Stuart Rothenberg
Oct. 30, 2014

President Barack Obama is about to do what no president has done in the past 50 years: Have two horrible, terrible, awful midterm elections in a row.

In fact, Obama is likely to have the worst midterm numbers of any two-term president going back to Democrat Harry S. Truman.

Truman lost a total of 83 House seats during his two midterms (55 seats in 1946 and 28 seats in 1950), while Republican Dwight Eisenhower lost a combined 66 House seats in the 1954 and 1958 midterms.

Obama had one midterm where his party lost 63 House seats, and Democrats are expected to lose another 5 to possibly 12 House seats (or more), taking the sitting president’s total midterm House loses to the 68 seat to 75 seat range.

Most recent presidents have one disastrous midterm and another midterm that was not terrible.

The GOP lost 30 House seats in George W. Bush’s second midterm, but gained 8 seats in his first midterm for a net loss of 22 seats. The party lost 26 seats in Ronald Reagan’s first midterm, but a mere 5 seats in his second midterm for a net loss of 31 seats.

Democrats got shellacked in 1994, losing 54 seats in Bill Clinton’s first midterm, but the party gained 5 House seats in 1998, Clinton’s six-year-itch election, for a net Clinton loss of 49 House seats. (The figures don’t include special elections during a president’s term.)

Looking at Senate losses, Republicans lost a net of 5 seats in George W. Bush’s two midterms, while Republicans lost a net of 7 seats during Ronald Reagan’s two midterms and Democrats lost a net of 8 seats during Bill Clinton’s two midterms. (Again, these numbers do not reflect party switches or special elections.)

Democrats have a chance to tie the number of Senate losses that Republicans suffered during the midterms of Eisenhower, when the GOP lost a net of 13 Senate seats (12 in 1958 and only one in 1954).

Democrats lost 6 Senate seats in 2010 and seem likely to lose from 5 to as many as 10 seats next week. That would add up to Obama midterm Senate losses of from 11 seats to as many as 16 seats.

Democrats will likely not exceed the number of Senate losses they incurred during the two Truman midterms, in 1946 and 1950, when the party lost a remarkable net of 17 seats.

Are the Democrats’ losses due to the increasingly partisan nature of our elections and the makeup of the past two Senate classes, or is the president at least partially to blame because he failed to show leadership on key issues and never successfully moved to the political center?

The answer, most obviously, is, “Yes.”

http://www3.blogs.rollcall.com/rothenblog/obama-poised-to-set-new-midterm-loss-record/

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Re: The Republican Party is Dead
« Reply #18 on: October 31, 2014, 10:58:38 AM »
O Rly?  So why didn't they retake the House in 2012?  And what difference would midterms make if the Republican Party is dead?  Unless it's not really dead?  

Also, that doesn't explain Republicans holding a majority of governorships and state legislatures.  

I said Dems do not do well in midterms.  2012 was not a midterm election was it? Just the opposite of what I said.  If the Dems could mobilize the voters to turn out for the midterms the way they can for the POTUS election, the results would be different.

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« Reply #19 on: October 31, 2014, 11:06:07 AM »
I said Dems do not do well in midterms.  2012 was not a midterm election was it? Just the opposite of what I said.  If the Dems could mobilize the voters to turn out for the midterms the way they can for the POTUS election, the results would be different.

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without welfare and obamaphone being offered to the Andre's of the world - makes it harder to do

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« Reply #20 on: October 31, 2014, 11:10:48 AM »
without welfare and obamaphone being offered to the Andre's of the world - makes it harder to do

It's true to an extent.  A vast number of people will only vote for selfish reasons and not for the greater good as a whole.  In both parties.

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Re: The Republican Party is Dead
« Reply #21 on: October 31, 2014, 11:20:12 AM »
I said Dems do not do well in midterms.  2012 was not a midterm election was it? Just the opposite of what I said.  If the Dems could mobilize the voters to turn out for the midterms the way they can for the POTUS election, the results would be different.

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 ::) If "Dems do not do well in midterms" that means they "do well" in general election years like 2012.  If so, why didn't they take the House in 2012?

And again, even if we're talking about midterms, what difference does it make if "Dems do not well," if the opposition is dead? 

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« Reply #22 on: October 31, 2014, 11:31:21 AM »
::) If "Dems do not do well in midterms" that means they "do well" in general election years like 2012.  If so, why didn't they take the House in 2012?

And again, even if we're talking about midterms, what difference does it make if "Dems do not well," if the opposition is dead? 

I said Dems don't do well in midterms.  I never mentioned nor insinuated anything about the general elections.   You are the one trying to equate that into me claiming they always do well during general election years.

My statement is about midterms, if you want to talk about something irrelevant to what I said you can converse with yourself. 

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« Reply #23 on: October 31, 2014, 11:35:07 AM »
I said Dems don't do well in midterms.  I never mentioned nor insinuated anything about the general elections.   You are the one trying to equate that into me claiming they always do well during general election years.

My statement is about midterms, if you want to talk about something irrelevant to what I said you can converse with yourself. 

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You have claimed, repeatedly, that the Republican Party is dead. So now you're saying they're only dead during general election years?   ::)

And how do you explain Republicans holding a majority of governorships and state legislatures?  Is that a "midterm" thing too?

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« Reply #24 on: October 31, 2014, 11:49:01 AM »
The GOP is dying.  Infighting is the only reason your party lost to the most beatable candidate in modern history.

As far as why they hold the majority of gov'ships and House, if Dems did better during the midterms that would not be the case.  This is common sense really.  I can see why you don't understand it.