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Arnold top three ?
« on: October 30, 2014, 05:28:24 PM »
Had  Arnold never made it in to the movies; Just a bodybuilder champ with the exact same exposure as Haney, Zane ,Dickerson and Bannout ..... AND NOTHING MORE.



Would he still be in your top three Mr.O winners of all time ?





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Re: Arnold top three ?
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2014, 07:49:31 PM »
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Re: Arnold top three ?
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2014, 08:27:11 PM »
Arnold destroyed mentzer
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Re: Arnold top three ?
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2014, 11:00:30 PM »
Lol fact is out of shape Arnold looks better than Mentzer

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Re: Arnold top three ?
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2014, 04:25:14 AM »
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man tony emmott,thats who it looks like anyway from the back has some weird traps thing going on ???
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Re: Arnold top three ?
« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2014, 04:27:47 AM »
man tony emmott,thats who it looks like anyway from the back has some weird traps thing going on ???
Sure its not True Adonis?

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Re: Arnold top three ?
« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2014, 04:37:26 AM »
Stood a fair amount behind in that pic but much wider, tighter midsection, fuller chest, rounder delts. Mentzer didn't realise Arnold wasn't competing with past versions of himself. Also Arnold had possibly his best conditioning for the 80 O. More vascular, ripped, is that out of shape? If he'd come on stage with torn bicep and gh gut you could understand that statement.

Arnold destroyed mentzer

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Re: Arnold top three ?
« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2014, 04:41:12 AM »
Stood a fair amount behind in that pic but much wider, tighter midsection, fuller chest, rounder delts. Mentzer didn't realise Arnold wasn't competing with past versions of himself. Also Arnold had possibly his best conditioning for the 80 O. More vascular, ripped, is that out of shape? If he'd come on stage with torn bicep and gh gut you could understand that statement.


yea i agree,arnold was better than mentzer at the 80 olympia. im trying to look for areas where mike is better but im having trouble finding them,maybe forearms but thats all i can see mike having over arnold
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Re: Arnold top three ?
« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2014, 06:16:33 AM »
Arnold destroyed mentzer

Not just on stage, in everything in life.

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Re: Arnold top three ?
« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2014, 07:50:56 AM »
Arnold is numero uno for a reason.   Others have more Olympia wins that's true but none have his charisma, style, class and his ability to have any faults, real or imagined overlooked, no...make that overshadowed by his persona.

Haney is good but no where near the Oak.  Arnold has him in what I call "massthetics" and of course the way he projects himself to the world at large and in bodybuilding is beyond anything Haney was capable of.

Yates is a bloated mass of tissue that is beneath Haney by a good deal.  This coupled with his trademarked working man's personality (read: dull and unimaginative) allows  Haney to simply destroy Yates with his far more aesthetic and yet still massive physique.

Coleman is even more turgid than Yates and Haney easily outclasses him in both physique and the "it" factor.  Coleman has the "shit factor" down pat.  People look at  him and say, "Awwwww, SHIT!"  Once you're past the overwhelming size of this barely moving mound of shit, unless you're a tier one schmoe or a fly it's time to move on.

Personally  I think Bob Paris is superior to Haney and even more so to Yates and Coleman but can understand how he could lose to Haney.  Haney was excellent. 

And then there was Arnold.  Again, Haney had more Olympia wins than the Oak. Big whoop.  I think Weider simply orchestrated that to try and humble Arnold.  Joe the Schmoe failed on that, big time.  An Arnold, like Steve Reeves before him, only comes along (maybe) once in a lifetime.  Too bad for Haney, Yates, Coleman and so many others that they were born in that lifetime.  Whatever they did is still under the shadow of a very large Austrian Oak.


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Re: Arnold top three ?
« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2014, 08:05:08 AM »
Had  Arnold never made it in to the movies; Just a bodybuilder champ with the exact same exposure as Haney, Zane ,Dickerson and Bannout ..... AND NOTHING MORE.



Would he still be in your top three Mr.O winners of all time ?





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I think he'd be like lou, who frankly doesn't get enough respect as a legit king.


Man should get an honorary Sandow at this point.

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Re: Arnold top three ?
« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2014, 08:26:20 AM »
Good post, can't agree on Paris being better than Haney though, great physique but more like an oversized fitness model.
Yates and Coleman both brought in the "fat" element with guts protruding past chests, of course Coleman pushed it even further with the pregnant level of gut.

Arnold is numero uno for a reason.   Others have more Olympia wins that's true but none have his charisma, style, class and his ability to have any faults, real or imagined overlooked, no...make that overshadowed by his persona.

Haney is good but no where near the Oak.  Arnold has him in what I call "massthetics" and of course the way he projects himself to the world at large and in bodybuilding is beyond anything Haney was capable of.

Yates is a bloated mass of tissue that is beneath Haney by a good deal.  This coupled with his trademarked working man's personality (read: dull and unimaginative) allows  Haney to simply destroy Yates with his far more aesthetic and yet still massive physique.

Coleman is even more turgid than Yates and Haney easily outclasses him in both physique and the "it" factor.  Coleman has the "shit factor" down pat.  People look at  him and say, "Awwwww, SHIT!"  Once you're past the overwhelming size of this barely moving mound of shit, unless you're a tier one schmoe or a fly it's time to move on.

Personally  I think Bob Paris is superior to Haney and even more so to Yates and Coleman but can understand how he could lose to Haney.  Haney was excellent. 

And then there was Arnold.  Again, Haney had more Olympia wins than the Oak. Big whoop.  I think Weider simply orchestrated that to try and humble Arnold.  Joe the Schmoe failed on that, big time.  An Arnold, like Steve Reeves before him, only comes along (maybe) once in a lifetime.  Too bad for Haney, Yates, Coleman and so many others that they were born in that lifetime.  Whatever they did is still under the shadow of a very large Austrian Oak.



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Re: Arnold top three ?
« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2014, 08:28:19 AM »
Lol Arnold better than Haney... Racial pride much ::)

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Re: Arnold top three ?
« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2014, 08:39:55 AM »
Arnolds physique inspires me daily so I'd say yes, but the only reason I ended up in bodybuilding is by watching his movies, so kinda of a paradox here.

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Re: Arnold top three ?
« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2014, 09:50:49 AM »
Lol Arnold better than Haney... Racial pride much ::)

Oh please...Stupid much? Ignorant much? Racially self deprecating much?  I am as human as any that come here.  That you choose to fart out the libtard race card is indicative of your being knee deep in ignorance.  If you continue to go there I will do my level best not to make an even bigger fool of you than you have already done yourself.

There is but one race, human.  There are however two factions.  Smart and stupid.  I think you are simply playing at the latter of the two in an effort to stir the shit.   I am not a fly.

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Re: Arnold top three ?
« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2014, 09:51:03 AM »
Arnolds physique inspires me daily so I'd say yes, but the only reason I ended up in bodybuilding is by watching his movies, so kinda of a paradox here.

i agree,be honest fellas how many of u woulda got into lifting cause of lee haney? most of us got into it cause of arnold,whether it was from watching pumping iron or conan the barbarian he was the ultimate reason.haney was a great bodybuilder and a great man imo but his dreams where small compared to arnolds,if it wasnt for arnold bodybuilding would still be in the stone ages
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Re: Arnold top three ?
« Reply #16 on: October 31, 2014, 09:55:58 AM »
Good post, can't agree on Paris being better than Haney though, great physique but more like an oversized fitness model.
Yates and Coleman both brought in the "fat" element with guts protruding past chests, of course Coleman pushed it even further with the pregnant level of gut.


I can easily see why Haney won so many Olympias, I just prefer the physique, presentation of  same and the downright outrageously handsome looks and manners of Paris over Haney.  No doubt, Haney was great I just happen to be a fan of Paris style of physique.

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Re: Arnold top three ?
« Reply #17 on: October 31, 2014, 10:09:28 AM »
Mentzer let the 1980 Mr Olympia contest ruin his life

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Re: Arnold top three ?
« Reply #18 on: October 31, 2014, 11:30:58 AM »
makes sense, for sure the paris physique would be great to be able to wake up with one day and walk around with. do you actually think as a complete bodybuilder, the best in the world, the most muscular man at the time he was superior?
I can easily see why Haney won so many Olympias, I just prefer the physique, presentation of  same and the downright outrageously handsome looks and manners of Paris over Haney.  No doubt, Haney was great I just happen to be a fan of Paris style of physique.

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Re: Arnold top three ?
« Reply #19 on: October 31, 2014, 03:14:43 PM »
i agree,be honest fellas how many of u woulda got into lifting cause of lee haney? most of us got into it cause of arnold,whether it was from watching pumping iron or conan the barbarian he was the ultimate reason.haney was a great bodybuilder and a great man imo but his dreams where small compared to arnolds,if it wasnt for arnold bodybuilding would still be in the stone ages

That's exactly my point, You got in to lifting because you watched a MOVIE with Arnold in it..... then got in to BB, and when you found out about the Mr.Olympian champs you were already fan~admirer with Arnold to the point you think charisma, popularity,etc  make his Physique superior than rest of the Olympian winners...


My question remains,  If he only had the exposure from the IFBB like the rest of the champs  will he still be the best of all 13 champs ?




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Re: Arnold top three ?
« Reply #20 on: October 31, 2014, 03:33:33 PM »
Had  Arnold never made it in to the movies; Just a bodybuilder champ with the exact same exposure as Haney, Zane ,Dickerson and Bannout ..... AND NOTHING MORE.



Would he still be in your top three Mr.O winners of all time ?





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Absolutely, Arnold was NUMERO UNO!

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Re: Arnold top three ?
« Reply #21 on: October 31, 2014, 04:09:01 PM »
Haney is clearly better than Arnold overall. End of story.
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Re: Arnold top three ?
« Reply #22 on: October 31, 2014, 06:48:06 PM »
Oh please...Stupid much? Ignorant much? Racially self deprecating much?  I am as human as any that come here.  That you choose to fart out the libtard race card is indicative of your being knee deep in ignorance.  If you continue to go there I will do my level best not to make an even bigger fool of you than you have already done yourself.

There is but one race, human.  There are however two factions.  Smart and stupid.  I think you are simply playing at the latter of the two in an effort to stir the shit.   I am not a fly.

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I brought up the race thing because I've also seen you drench wolf with a few posts full of embarrassingly eulogistic drivel.  I don't know how else someone can justify placing Arnold over Haney, or suggest wolf looked like anything other than shit at the last Olympia.

By the way, I also call out parker when he occasionally lets his Hebrew pride poke through the veil of even-handedness.

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Re: Arnold top three ?
« Reply #23 on: October 31, 2014, 06:58:50 PM »
Jessie owens would fade in any Olympic lineup. Doesn't mean he.wasn't an all time great. That said Arnold is very over rated. No tris weak bck and legs wide waist.

That said height and shape were factors then. Now you have to be.below average height.and look retarded to get anywhere.

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Re: Arnold top three ?
« Reply #24 on: October 31, 2014, 07:41:07 PM »
I brought up the race thing because I've also seen you drench wolf with a few posts full of embarrassingly eulogistic drivel.  I don't know how else someone can justify placing Arnold over Haney, or suggest wolf looked like anything other than shit at the last Olympia.

By the way, I also call out parker when he occasionally lets his Hebrew pride poke through the veil of even-handedness.

Well now. How eloquent of you.  Far better spoken than your previous unfounded (still unfounded by the way) comment regarding "race".  You prefer Haney and I prefer Arnold.   I suppose I could accuse you of being a mud hen or whatever the ridiculous term is?  Nah.  It is who you prefer.  I also prefer Bob Paris to Haney and Bob is homosexual but alas, caucasian. Does his lack of skin color negate his homosexuality in your PC world?  Feh.

And I prefer the Oak to Haney.  That he happens to be white is of consequence only to you.  That Wolf happens to be white is of consequence only to you.  I prefer Sergio  in 69 to Arnold does that mean I am racist against Arnold because of the relative lack of melatonin in his system?  Hell no.  It means I think Sergio was better that year.  I prefer Serge Nubret to Haney.  Dammit!  Serge is black but not African-American so perhaps it is fine for you to dismiss him.  Actually, its all a matter of preference.  I despise PC BS.

And in the liberal arena of stupidity  skin color matters only when it is anything but the lack of same.  I suggest you think before you type.  Like I said, we are of one race.  Human.  Stupid or smart, we are all just human.