10 reasons NOT to barbell squat - prepare for meltdowns by the hard men

[anabolichalo]

the only arguements by the "pro squat movement" in this thread are basically

"you gotta squat otherwise ur a pussy"


talk about insecure retards


doing a stupid exercise just because uncle rippetoe told them he will fuck them in the boypussy if they dont


basically


lol


also some insane claims that "it's a natural movement" and "it works the body like a unit"

which are the furthest thing from the truth

[thegamechanger]

good posts from halo and howard here.

and if that are your legs halo there is no reason to start squatting if you can achive that without squatting in fact people should get that level of leg development and maybe then consider squatting if theyre not happy with that size but i bet most would be

[anabolichalo]

good posts from halo and howard here.

and if that are your legs halo there is no reason to start squatting if you can achive that without squatting in fact people should get that level of leg development and maybe then consider squatting if theyre not happy with that size but i bet most would be

i did do a lot of back squats, front squats, and squat cleans over the course of 10 years

when i started roiding, i abandon the movement pretty much and trade it for leg press and some hacksquat machine

but i basically built the legs when natural, i never really push the legs much since getting on the juice because i dont really care so much


so it's hard to say if my legs would have looked like this or not without squats

[DanM]

the only arguements by the "pro squat movement" in this thread are basically

"you gotta squat otherwise ur a pussy"


talk about insecure retards


doing a stupid exercise just because uncle rippetoe told them he will fuck them in the boypussy if they dont


basically


lol


also some insane claims that "it's a natural movement" and "it works the body like a unit"

which are the furthest thing from the truth

You seem to be taking this to heart, perhaps a big squatter at the gym made you feel less than? Anyways, some people like to perform movements that really challenge them, not only physically but mentally as well. I for one wouldn't even be able to drag myself to the gym if I were to only do leg extensions or something similar, has nothing to do with ripptoe or anyone else.

[Howard]

That's because you're a giant pussy.

Yup, no question about that along with squats being ineffective.

[James28]

I used to be staunchly against squatting for many many years. Until very recent where I started training again. I really started all over again. I had 15+ years training under my belt but in truth, I got bored of all the fancy little curls and machine training. Now I do 5 exercises only. Squats, Bench, Deads, Barbell Press and Bicep Curls. Well, and the calf machine but very rarely.

I'd say since I started squatting again my knees are actually in BETTER shape than ever. No more cracking or popping when getting off the ground. My legs feel stronger, I AM stronger and enjoying training again. I've left ego training behind in the 90s so I only squat what I can handle safely and don't risk injury.

If done properly, I can't see why it's bad for you.

[James28]

I blew out my lower back a few times trying to squat deep and heavy.
Guess what? It never helped give me obtain bigger, better legs.
Combined with heavy deadlifts, squats gave me a damaged low back and permanent arthritis in my sacrum/sacroiliac area .
3 yrs ago, after many painful  years of squats, I dropped the exercise for good . I am making BETTER leg gains with other safer movements.

Ego training.

Try using weights you can handle safely and you'll never have an issue.

[Donny]

That's because you're a giant pussy.

Howard looks 100% better than you.

[MCWAY]

Dorian never did them. End of thread.

He did them during his younger years. Injuries forced him to do other exercises which he found to work better for him.

This is no different than the whole hulabaloo over Bob Chicherillo and his "Squats Suck" and "Butchering Sacred Cows" articles from the early 2000s.

As the saying goes, "One man's poison is another man's meat." As Dorian said in that MD video, squats are a great overall exercise and (for some) an awesome leg builder. They just weren't great for him.

[V Man]

I get better results from leg press than squats, no question.

The only reason that I will do squats is if I feel lazy and don't feel like loading the leg press with 15 plates per side.

[Griffith]

He did them during his younger years. Injuries forced him to do other exercises which he found to work better for him.

This is no different than the whole hulabaloo over Bob Chicherillo and his "Squats Suck" and "Butchering Sacred Cows" articles from the early 2000s.

As the saying goes, "One man's poison is another man's meat." As Dorian said in that MD video, squats are a great overall exercise and (for some) an awesome leg builder. They just weren't great for him.

Though Dorian Yates did say that he got most of his leg development from squats in his earlier years.

[shiftedShapes]

Ego training.

Try using weights you can handle safely and you'll never have an issue.

Bingo, learn how to squat olympic style with a barely loaded bar, ass to grass, no momentum, with a pause at the bottom of each rep, torso upright and back arched the whole way.  Then load the bar only enough so you can do 12 reps for 3 sets with no momentum.  No way you will injure yourself with that type of reasonable lifting, and you will hit quads, posterior chain and back even.  Try it.

[no one]

I think a lot of people who find squatting uncomfortable or find it injured them or was a useless motion didn't have, not to their fault, the body made to squat.

guys who have good squats will know what I'm talking about. flexible hips. good balance. joints (not just knee) that are pliable but still maintain strength.

imo if you have flexible hips your made to squat. if your body is too rigid it's going to an uncomfortable movement and hurt you.

someone w a good squat can stand in a rack regardless of the weight on his back and be completely comfortable thru the entire range of motion.  

if you want a good test if you are made to squat take a relatively heavy weight and very slowy descend. if at any point thru the descent you start to pitch forward or roll your back stay away from the movement. guys w the right hips can lower a great deal of weight very very slowly and have their hips move properly enough to be comfortable thru the entire range of motion ass to floor.

imo a good squat is all abt how flexible your hips are. I'm not a squat fan for most people as they can't open up their hips enough to do the motion properly.

[_aj_]

I think a lot of people who find squatting uncomfortable or find it injured them or was a useless motion didn't have, not to their fault, the body made to squat.

guys who have good squats will know what I'm talking about. flexible hips. good balance. joints (not just knee) that are pliable but still maintain strength.

imo if you have flexible hips your made to squat. if your body is too rigid it's going to an uncomfortable movement and hurt you.

someone w a good squat can stand in a rack regardless of the weight on his back and be completely comfortable thru the entire range of motion. 

if you want a good test if you are made to squat take a relatively heavy weight and very slowy descend. if at any point thru the descent you start to pitch forward or roll your back stay away from the movement. guys w the right hips can lower a great deal of weight very very slowly and have their hips move properly enough to be comfortable thru the entire range of motion ass to floor.

imo a good squat is all abt how flexible your hips are.

Good post.

[no one]

Good post.

Ty sir.

[anabolichalo]

actually it's about ankle flexibility

common sense really

[Complex Carbs]

Yes, nobody ever got hurt doing leg press or belted hip squats.   The lengths people will go to to avoid an exercise is comedic.

The above reply is comedic too, because you look like you avoid exercising altogether.

[Complex Carbs]

You probably are not putting the bar in the correct place for your build if that is the case.

Ideal placement you should not feel a thing on your lower back or neck.  Try putting the bar at the base of the traps, resting on the rear delt area.

Can i point out one thing?

You have skeleton legs, it does not matter what you say, which study you cite, you are a poor representative of the team squat.

Sure, all the others are fat pigs who think doing 5 sets of 30% ROM "squats" is heavy training, but in your case, it's just grotesque.

Your legs are only good to advertise wheelchairs.

[BigRo]

Can i point out one thing?

You have skeleton legs, it does not matter what you say, which study you cite, you are a poor representative of the team squat.

Sure, all the others are fat pigs who think doing 5 sets of 30% ROM "squats" is heavy training, but in your case, it's just grotesque.

Your legs are only good to advertise wheelchairs.

lol

[Complex Carbs]

lol

I know, this will sound like i am joking, but he might very well be the first person on the planet who managed to get his leg muscle smaller than at starting point, after years of training.

LOL

"A leg is a leg", i guess:-)

Have you people heard about that new female fashion fad?

They call it thigh gap.

Adonis has the thigh gap look, but is a "bodybuilder".

This goes way past the argument squats vs no squats(just do whatever makes your legs look the way you want them to look).
What we are confronted with here is a guy spotting a thigh gap, putting millions of females with eating disorders to shame.

And he is giving away his leg training......secrets(?) hahhaha

[anabolichalo]

I know, this will sound like i am joking, but he might very well be the first person on the planet who managed to get his leg muscle smaller than at starting point, after years of training.

LOL

"A leg is a leg", i guess:-)

Have you people heard about that new female fashion fad?

They call it thigh gap.

Adonis has the thigh gap look, but is a "bodybuilder".

This goes way past the argument squats vs no squats(just do whatever makes your legs look the way you want them to look).
What we are confronted with here is a guy spotting a thigh gap, putting millions of females with eating disorders to shame.

And he is giving away his leg training......secrets(?) hahhaha

i have thought these thoughts when seeing his legs

[Complex Carbs]

The real reason why guys don't squat has nothing to do with injuries.  Squatting is hard work and most avoid hard work. Most guys love lying on a padded bed pushing a weight then do a couple curls calling it a day.

But what happens if they develop better legs than you do?

You kkuunt will say they must be all drugs.

Do the world a favor and stick your sweeping generalizations in to your anal cavity in one of the rare seconds when it's not occupied by your boyfriends penis or sperm or finger.

I gather you must be a hard worker in the gym and all that, so please show me the benefits of your ways haha, where is the picture of your "wheels"

[Complex Carbs]

i have thought these thoughts when seeing his legs

Because it is obvious, it is the very first thing coming to mind.

The second thought is, maybe both upper leg bones are broken.

He is a pioneer in that aspect, ahead of the times, and the female world isn't even aware yet, lol.

[Complex Carbs]

Ronnie did them. Thread restarted.

Tell that to his new hip, fattie.

[Complex Carbs]

67:40 Another reason why I hate commercial gyms.....Dude on the bench pres repping 65 pounds.
Dude stay in your fvcking office /dormitory and do pushups.That goes for the gumby's doing shadow boxing,rope jumping,tai chi moves in the mirror,using the squat racks for over head presses with nickels on the bar,morons doing pushups taking up floor space...I'll take my garage and power rack in my mirrorless silent garage anyday !

You are so old school and hard, bro.

Why don't you simply mind your own business,nobody gives a shit.