Tea Partiers Are Already Warning The New GOP Majority: 'We're Watching You'

[240 is Back]

Leaders of some of the most prominent tea party and conservative-aligned outside groups gathered for a press conference on Wednesday to take a post-GOP-now-controls-the-Senate victory lap. But they also had a much less cheerful message for the new Republican Senate majority: we're watching you.

"Repeal Obamacare. Use reconciliation to pass a bill repealing Obamacare. Put it on the president's desk. Let him veto it and draw a line in the sand," Martin continued. "Secure the border and block the president's planned executive amnesty. Maintain the rule of law and prove that we as a country, as we have been for more than two centuries, are a nation of laws and not of men."

Martin said during the celebrations over Republican victories in the midterms she had "reason for concern" because of a press release from Boehner's (R-OH) office.

"In this release, Speaker Boehner lays out an agenda for the 114th Congress," Martin said. "Obamacare is mentioned nowhere. Neither is securing the borders nor blocking the President's planned executive amnesty."

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/tea-party-gop-senate-majority-tea-party-patriots-watching

[Straw Man]

With any luck we can get some of the tea party economic magic that Brownback bestowed upon Kansas

[MCWAY]

With any luck we can get some of the tea party economic magic that Brownback bestowed upon Kansas

It was just enough magic to get him re-elected. And, he's been winning the "border war" between Kansas and Missouri. Businesses in the KC Metro area have been jumping from KCMO to KCK, Overland Park, Lenexa, and other cities on the Kansas side, due to the low taxes there.

[Straw Man]

It was just enough magic to get him re-elected. And, he's been winning the "border war" between Kansas and Missouri. Businesses in the KC Metro area have been jumping from KCMO to KCK, Overland Park, Lenexa, and other cities on the Kansas side, due to the low taxes there.

so why did tax revenue crater and why was their credit rating cut?

The governor promised his "pro-growth tax policy" would act "like a shot of adrenaline in the heart of the Kansas economy," but, instead, state revenues plummeted by nearly $700 million in a single fiscal year, both Moody's and Standard & Poor's downgraded the state's credit rating, and job growth sagged behind all four of Kansas' neighbors. Brownback wound up nixing a planned sales-tax cut to make up for some of the shortfall, but not before he'd enacted what his opponents call the largest cuts in education spending in the history of Kansas.

Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-great-kansas-tea-party-disaster-20141023#ixzz3IVNkzzRp
Follow us: @rollingstone on Twitter | RollingStone on Facebook

[flipper5470]

Well if his opponents said it...it must be true. 

[MCWAY]

so why did tax revenue crater and why was their credit rating cut?
Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-great-kansas-tea-party-disaster-20141023#ixzz3IVNkzzRp
Follow us: @rollingstone on Twitter | RollingStone on Facebook

Key words: What his OPPONENTS said.

That doesn't necessarily correspond to actual facts. You can cite an entertainment magazine. I will cite the local news and the actual businesses that pulled up chocks from KCMO to the Kansas side of the border, such as:

http://cjonline.com/news/business/2014-07-01/kansas-spurns-missouris-business-border-war-peace-offering

http://kcur.org/post/will-2014-be-year-end-kansas-missouri-border-war

As for education, Brownback added over 600 new teachers jobs and the test scores of the students have improved.

Of course, Brownback's critics (teachers' unions and other left-wing organziations) whined about the cuts. I guess they forgot that schools aren't about setting them up for cushy pension but actually TEACHING  those students.

[MCWAY]

Well if his opponents said it...it must be true. 

That's another reason the Dems were so shellshocked. They thought Brownback was a dead duck. The polls had him losing to Davis, just days before the election.

[Straw Man]

Key words: What his OPPONENTS said.

That doesn't necessarily correspond to actual facts. You can cite an entertainment magazine. I will cite the local news and the actual businesses that pulled up chocks from KCMO to the Kansas side of the border, such as:

http://cjonline.com/news/business/2014-07-01/kansas-spurns-missouris-business-border-war-peace-offering

http://kcur.org/post/will-2014-be-year-end-kansas-missouri-border-war

As for education, Brownback added over 600 new teachers jobs and the test scores of the students have improved.

Of course, Brownback's critics (teachers' unions and other left-wing organziations) whined about the cuts. I guess they forgot that schools aren't about setting them up for cushy pension but actually TEACHING  those students.

so his opponents made up the 700 million drop in revenue and they also made up the cut to their credit rating?

[Soul Crusher]

With any luck we can get some of the tea party economic magic that Brownback bestowed upon Kansas

Lol.   Off your meds?

[Straw Man]

Lol.   Off your meds?

700 million drop in revenue and downgraded credit rating were the result of Brownback's tea bag "experiment"

Brownback himself went around the country telling anyone who'd listen that Kansas could be seen as a sort of test case, in which unfettered libertarian economic policy could be held up and compared right alongside the socialistic overreach of the Obama administration, and may the best theory of government win. "We'll see how it works," he bragged on Morning Joe in 2012. "We'll have a real live experiment."

Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-great-kansas-tea-party-disaster-20141023#ixzz3IWNHWaGa
Follow us: @rollingstone on Twitter | RollingStone on Facebook

[flipper5470]

Wow..Rolling Stone...now there's a credible source of bias free analysis.   

[240 is Back]

Wow..Rolling Stone...now there's a credible source of bias free analysis.   

They were pretty credible when they let mccrystal criticize the shit out of OBama.   

http://www.mediaite.com/online/gen-mcchrystals-stunning-interview-with-rolling-stone-enrages-obama/

Obama was outraged, people on getbig were very happy. 

[flipper5470]

Right... because subjective analysis from a publication with an agenda is exactly the same thing as a first person objective account of events interspersed with that persons subjective opinion.

[Straw Man]

Wow..Rolling Stone...now there's a credible source of bias free analysis.   

you can find all the same facts at many other sources

[Straw Man]

Right... because subjective analysis from a publication with an agenda is exactly the same thing as a first person objective account of events interspersed with that persons subjective opinion.

http://bit.ly/1pCq8Ba

[flipper5470]

The issue isn't the budget...it's the superficial, agenda driven analysis.  Rely on the Rolling Stone to explain the cause and effect relationship between economic policy and short term outcomes?  No thanks...

[Straw Man]

The issue isn't the budget...it's the superficial, agenda driven analysis.  Rely on the Rolling Stone to explain the cause and effect relationship between economic policy and short term outcomes?  No thanks...

why do you keep shitting on Rolling Stone

If you would like to refute the facts then feel free but don't attack the messenger

Maybe you'd prefer to the same facts from the Washington Post

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2014/07/16/gop-governor-implements-gop-economics-disaster-ensues/

or perhaps you prefer The Center on Budget and Policy Priorities

http://www.cbpp.org/files/3-27-14sfp.pdf

It's all the same facts

Here is a quick summary and you can check the lick for the sources of the facts

As other states consider large tax cuts, they should heed these key lessons from Kansas:

 Deep income tax cuts caused large revenue losses. Kansas’ tax cuts this year are costing
the state about 8 percent of the revenue it uses to fund schools, health care, and other public
services, a hit comparable to a mid-sized recession. State data show that the revenue loss will
rise to 16 percent in five years if the tax cuts are not reversed.

 The large revenue losses extended and deepened the recession’s damage to schools and
other state services. Most states are restoring funding for schools after years of significant
cuts, but in Kansas the cuts continue. Governor Sam Brownback recently proposed another
reduction in per-pupil general school aid for next year, which would leave funding 17 percent
below pre-recession levels. Funding for other services — colleges and universities, libraries,
and local health departments, among others — also is way down, and declining.

 The tax cuts delivered lopsided benefits to the wealthy. Kansas’ tax cuts didn’t benefit
everyone. Most of the benefits went to high-income households. Kansas even raised taxes for
low-income families to offset a portion of the revenue loss; otherwise the cuts to schools and
other services would have been greater still.

 Kansas’ tax cuts haven’t boosted its economy. Since the tax cuts took effect at the
beginning of 2013, Kansas has added jobs at a pace modestly slower than the country as a
whole. The earnings and incomes of Kansans have performed slightly worse than the U.S. as a
whole as well. (An exception is farmers, whose incomes improved as the state recovered from
a drought.) And so far there’s no evidence that Kansas is enjoying exceptional business growth:
the number of registered business grew more slowly last year than in 2012, and the state’s share
of all U.S. business establishments fell over the first three quarters of last year, the latest data
available.

 There’s little evidence to suggest that Kansas’ tax cuts will improve its economy in the
future. No one knows for certain how Kansas’ economy will perform in the years ahead, but it
isn’t likely to stand out from other states. The latest official state revenue forecast, from
November 2013, projects Kansas personal income will grow more slowly than total national
personal income in 2014 and 2015. Evidence from other states and academic studies casts further doubt on claims that the tax cuts
will cause the state’s economy to boom. States that cut taxes the most in the 1990s performed
worse, on average, over the course of the next economic cycle than states that were more
prudent.2 And the academic literature overwhelmingly finds that states with lower personal
income taxes perform no better economically than their peers.3

[flipper5470]

Ha..a Liberal is asking why someone shits on a media source!!  Fox news much?

I really could not care less about Kansas politics or the Rolling Stone.  The people of Kansas viewed Brownabck as the better choice and that..is that

[Straw Man]

Ha..a Liberal is asking why someone shits on a media source!!  Fox news much?

I really could not care less about Kansas politics or the Rolling Stone.  The people of Kansas viewed Brownabck as the better choice and that..is that

you've made 4 or 5 posts on this thread yet you seem incapable of refuting the fact that tea party inspired tax cuts led to a massive drop in revenue, lackluster job growth and a drop in the credit rating for the state (which will no doubt lead to higher rates when the state borrowers money)

[flipper5470]

incapable?  More like indifferent....I really don't care to dissect the budget and economy of the State of Kansas.  As I've said before, the people of Kansas looked at Brownback's job performance and gave him another term.  Here in Michigan, Rick Snyder and the GOP legislature have done a magnificent job...we gave him another term.

So far as my attacking the Rolling Stone goes...that's how it works today.  Fox News lies....critics of Obama are racists...why bother substantiating a position when you can just spew vitriol?

[Straw Man]

incapable?  More like indifferent....I really don't care to dissect the budget and economy of the State of Kansas.  As I've said before, the people of Kansas looked at Brownback's job performance and gave him another term.  Here in Michigan, Rick Snyder and the GOP legislature have done a magnificent job...we gave him another term.

So far as my attacking the Rolling Stone goes...that's how it works today.  Fox News lies....critics of Obama are racists...why bother substantiating a position when you can just spew vitriol?

great point

Like Brownback, the voters looked at Obama's job performance and gave him another term so I assume you feel no need at all to dissect and discuss his policies

right?

It is truly hilarious the lengths you are going through to ignore discussing the Tea Bag inspired economic disaster that Brownback has given to Kansas

carry on comrade

[flipper5470]

I'm not avoiding anything...I don't care...

[Straw Man]

I'm not avoiding anything...I don't care...

fair enough

just to sum up

you don't care that Brownback inspired by the Tea Party racked up a huge deficit in only 1 year and destroyed the states credit rating

will you care if moron TeaBaggers do that to the country?

[Soul Crusher]

The voters in thatstate disagree moron. 

great point

Like Brownback, the voters looked at Obama's job performance and gave him another term so I assume you feel no need at all to dissect and discuss his policies

right?

It is truly hilarious the lengths you are going through to ignore discussing the Tea Bag inspired economic disaster that Brownback has given to Kansas

carry on comrade