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F@&$# YOU, American voters!




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F@&$# YOU, American voters!





That should be "stupid" American voters. 

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That should be "stupid" American voters.  

I don't know.  That might imply that it's directed only at "stupid" voters, of which we all know a few, when in reality Gruber's comment is directed at American voters in general.

Gruber's comments are a reflection of what Obama and his administration think about the American people.

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I don't know.  That might imply that it's directed only at "stupid" voters, of which we all know a few, when in reality Gruber's comment is directed at American voters in general.

Gruber's comments is a reflection of what the Obama administration thinks about the American people.

He referred to the "stupidity of the American voter," which to me means all American voters. 

I agree Gruber was conveying what the Obama administration thinks about Americans. 

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He referred to the "stupidity of the American voter," which to me means all American voters. 

I agree Gruber was conveying what the Obama administration thinks about Americans. 

Eggxactly!

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Eggxactly!

El Profeta has spoken.   :D

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The Affordable Care Act's Embarrassing Moment of Tooth

The administration mistakenly included dental plans in the 7.3 million enrollment total under Obamacare. Without them, the government missed its target.


Russell Berman


Nov 20 2014, 4:04 PM ET






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The president and Sylvia Burwell, Health and Human Services secretary (Top: Susan Walsh/AP, Bottom: J. Scott Applewhite/AP)

It turns out the Affordable Care Act didn't meet its first-year goal of enrolling 7 million Americans in private insurance plans after all.

The Obama administration disclosed on Thursday that it mistakenly included about 380,000 dental plans in the 7.3 million people who enrolled through state and federal exchanges for 2014. With those dental plans subtracted and including updated data, the Department of Health and Human Services said the number of enrolled Americans as of October 15 was 6.7 million.

The department's secretary, Sylvia Burwell, called the mistake "unacceptable" in a Twitter post and later in a Facebook chat she conducted with MSNBC's Chris Hayes. "This mistake was unacceptable," she wrote.


"I will be communicating that clearly throughout the department. While we understand some will be skeptical, our clarity that this is [a] mistake and the fact that we have quickly corrected the numbers should give people confidence. It is important to continue to focus on the fact that millions of Americans are getting affordable health care."

The news that the Obama administration had met—and seemingly exceeded—the 7 million target earlier this year was seen as a surprising comeback story following the disastrous, error-filled launch of Healthcare.gov and several state exchanges.

Bloomberg first reported the snafu Thursday, citing an analysis by Republicans on the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee. The office of Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy said in a statement that the administration "increased their numbers artificially in order to reach their enrollment goals."


"It seems that this administration’s habit of obfuscation continues long after the failed health care law has passed."

It is the latest in a series of troubling developments for the 2010 law, as the Obama administration prepares to defend it once again against a Supreme Court challenge and tries to combat year-old accusations from economist Jonathan Gruber that officials knowingly misled the public about its impact. The beefed-up Healthcare.gov has had a smoother launch in its second open enrollment period that began on November 15, but the Obama administration has already dropped its projection for how many people will sign up in year two. Officials now believe about 9.1 million people will enroll, down from the 13 million that the Congressional Budget Office had previously estimated.

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Gruber loses yet another job
Hotair ^  | 11/24/2014 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on ‎11‎/‎24‎/‎2014‎ ‎8‎:‎39‎:‎09‎ ‎AM by SeekAndFind






In a somewhat ironic fashion, if Jonathan Gruber has taught us anything, it’s that telling the truth won’t get you far in the political world. After famously describing how the success of Obamacare relied heavily on the gullibility and short attention span of the voters, both former and prospective employers have been scurrying away from him like he was an Ebola dog. First he saw his old friends Barack Obama and Nancy Pelosi stricken with shocking bouts of amnesia where they seemed unable to even recall his name. Then a plush job with the the state of Vermont – to the tune of $400K – had the plug pulled on it. And now, North Carolina has shown Mr. Gruber the door.


North Carolina’s state auditor on Thursday terminated a contract with Jonathan Gruber, the MIT economics professor and health-care expert whose comments on the Affordable Care Act have generated fury among conservatives.

Earlier this week, Wood’s office decided they had to fire Gruber because it couldn’t “eliminate [the] appearance of an independence impairment,” according to a timeline released by the Auditor’s office. Wood met with Republican leaders of the General Assembly on Tuesday to inform them of the decision, then called Gruber on Wednesday.

“Gruber’s comment that it was all right to mislead people to get to a desired outcome that he favored led our auditors to determine he had at least the appearance of an independence impairment,” Bill Holmes, a spokesman for the Auditor’s office, told WRAL.

We probably shouldn’t feel too badly for Jonathan. He’ll still collect $100K on the North Carolina contract, and it’s not like he won’t have many other exciting appointments on his calendar to keep him busy. For example, in just a few weeks he’ll be given the VIP tour of the Capitol when he testifies before the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee. He can undoubtedly look forward to plenty of fascinating question and answer sessions there and the chance to make many new friends.

I have to wonder if Mr. Gruber isn’t missing an obvious opportunity here. Clearly liberal politicians and their friendly media outlets have branded him a villain for having inadvertently exposed how they truly feel about the American public. But what about conservative media? If Gruber needs a new gig after all this is over, perhaps he should just embrace the image of being the reluctant truth teller and take that act on the road. What if he becomes the new health or budgeting expert at Heritage? Perhaps the Stupid Voter Tricks Analyst at Fox News? If he figured out how to get Americans to swallow Obamacare, surely he could describe battle plans for how to sell us on comprehensive immigration reform or tax reform at Investors Business Daily.

The world is still your oyster, Mr. Gruber. You have only to reach out and open it.

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Gruber loses yet another job
Hotair ^  | 11/24/2014 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on ‎11‎/‎24‎/‎2014‎ ‎8‎:‎39‎:‎09‎ ‎AM by SeekAndFind






In a somewhat ironic fashion, if Jonathan Gruber has taught us anything, it’s that telling the truth won’t get you far in the political world. After famously describing how the success of Obamacare relied heavily on the gullibility and short attention span of the voters, both former and prospective employers have been scurrying away from him like he was an Ebola dog. First he saw his old friends Barack Obama and Nancy Pelosi stricken with shocking bouts of amnesia where they seemed unable to even recall his name. Then a plush job with the the state of Vermont – to the tune of $400K – had the plug pulled on it. And now, North Carolina has shown Mr. Gruber the door.


North Carolina’s state auditor on Thursday terminated a contract with Jonathan Gruber, the MIT economics professor and health-care expert whose comments on the Affordable Care Act have generated fury among conservatives.

Earlier this week, Wood’s office decided they had to fire Gruber because it couldn’t “eliminate [the] appearance of an independence impairment,” according to a timeline released by the Auditor’s office. Wood met with Republican leaders of the General Assembly on Tuesday to inform them of the decision, then called Gruber on Wednesday.

“Gruber’s comment that it was all right to mislead people to get to a desired outcome that he favored led our auditors to determine he had at least the appearance of an independence impairment,” Bill Holmes, a spokesman for the Auditor’s office, told WRAL.

We probably shouldn’t feel too badly for Jonathan. He’ll still collect $100K on the North Carolina contract, and it’s not like he won’t have many other exciting appointments on his calendar to keep him busy. For example, in just a few weeks he’ll be given the VIP tour of the Capitol when he testifies before the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee. He can undoubtedly look forward to plenty of fascinating question and answer sessions there and the chance to make many new friends.

I have to wonder if Mr. Gruber isn’t missing an obvious opportunity here. Clearly liberal politicians and their friendly media outlets have branded him a villain for having inadvertently exposed how they truly feel about the American public. But what about conservative media? If Gruber needs a new gig after all this is over, perhaps he should just embrace the image of being the reluctant truth teller and take that act on the road. What if he becomes the new health or budgeting expert at Heritage? Perhaps the Stupid Voter Tricks Analyst at Fox News? If he figured out how to get Americans to swallow Obamacare, surely he could describe battle plans for how to sell us on comprehensive immigration reform or tax reform at Investors Business Daily.

The world is still your oyster, Mr. Gruber. You have only to reach out and open it.


Incredible irony.  He was too stupid to keep his mouth shut. 


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Face it, .gov does think that the American public is stupid. And for the most part they are right, tell people what they want to hear and they vote for you. Completely screw them over, and the majority is so idiotic they will vote for you again.
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Good.  Going to be some uncomfortable moments for him.

'Stupidity' consultant agrees to testify
By Sarah Ferris - 11/25/14

Jonathan Gruber, the former ObamaCare adviser in hot water for his comments about the “stupidity of the American voter,” has agreed to testify at a House panel next month, setting up a healthcare showdown in what could be the final week of this Congress.

The House Oversight and Government Reform Committee will also hear from Obama administration official Marilyn Tavenner, who is under fire this week for using inflated enrollment figures for the healthcare law.

“Both Mr. Gruber and Administrator Tavenner have agreed to testify,” committee spokeswoman Caitlin Carroll told The Hill.

Both figures have played a role in major political headaches for the Obama administration, which is facing new allegations of “repeated transparency failures and outright deceptions” from Committee Chairman Darrell Issa (R-Calif.).

Gruber, an economist at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, will be grilled for a number of speeches he has given since 2010 that blame the Obama administration for intentionally obscuring details of the healthcare law in order to assure its passage.

Tavenner, who leads the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS), has taken flak after an investigation by the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee revealed last week that ObamaCare enrollment figures had been inflated by nearly 400,000.

The administration has been quick to acknowledge that the misreported enrollment count was a mistake, and has defended Tavenner. But hardly any Democrats have stood beside Gruber.

Democrats on the committee are “still considering different options for a minority witness,” according to a Democratic staffer.

The hearing, which is set to take place Dec. 9, will be one of the last for Issa, who has been one of the most vocal critics of the healthcare law.

“The American people deserve honesty, transparency and respect from those who forced the federal government into their healthcare. I expect Mr. Gruber and Administrator Tavenner to testify publicly next month about the arrogance and deceptions surrounding the passage and implementation of ObamaCare,” Issa wrote in a statement last week when he announced the hearing.

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Latest Gruber Video Ruins Administration's Supreme Court Argument To Save Obamacare
Truth Revolt ^  | 12.4.2014 | Jeff Dunetz

Posted on ‎12‎/‎4‎/‎2014‎ ‎2‎:‎39‎:‎40‎ ‎PM by sheikdetailfeather

f all the Jonathan Gruber videos released so far, this one could be the most damaging. Revealed on Tuesday's Greta Van Susteren program on Fox News, the latest blockbuster has the Obamacare architect explaining if your state doesn't set up an exchange, its residents aren't eligible for tax credits, precisely the opposite of what the Administration is arguing before the Supreme Court. The question before the Supreme Court is whether the language of the Affordable Care Act restricts the premium subsidies (in the form of tax credits) to residents buying insurance from a state-run exchange, and prohibits the credits on the federal exchange which serves a little over 7 million Americans in 36 states. The specific language says participants in the state exchanges get the tax credit, but doesn't mention the federal exchange. The administration is arguing that the omission of the federal exchange is a typo, the plaintiffs argue that there was no intention cover a federal exchange in the bill. A ruling against the White House would severely damage Obamacare because the tax credits are critical to ensuring that lower-income Americans can afford insurance.


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The Insiders: The Gruberization of the Democratic Party


 


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By Ed Rogers December 8 at 5:19 PM    


Jonathan Gruber, made famous by his offensively blatant revelations of the deceit behind the construction and passage of the Obamacare law, will testify before Chairman Darrell Issa (R-CA) and the House Oversight Committee tomorrow morning.  I

 FILE - In this May 12, 2009, file photo Jonathan Gruber, professor of Economics at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, participates in a Capitol Hill hearing on the overhaul of the heath care system in Washington. A supporter of the Affordable Care Act, Gruber says, "It’s so crazy to think that a society that has Social Security and Medicare would not find this (law) constitutional.” Gruber advised both the Obama administration and Massachusetts lawmakers as they developed the state mandate in the 2006 law that Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney championed as governor. (AP Photo/Pablo Martinez Monsivais, File)
FILE – In this May 12, 2009, file photo Jonathan Gruber, professor of Economics at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, participates in a Capitol Hill hearing on the overhaul of the heath care system in Washington.

expect the testimony and the follow-up coverage of the hearing to be anti-climatic.  Gruber was caught on-camera speaking off the cuff – multiple times – but you can expect he will be prepared, scripted and lawyered-up tomorrow.  So unless you just like watching someone who does deserve some harsh scrutiny squirm, there won’t be much to see.

In a way, Gruber did the Republican cause a favor.  He bluntly confirmed what we already knew: That clever Hill staffers and lawyers purposely contrived Obamacare as an opaque thicket in order to disguise many of the law’s fees, taxes, penalties and its general government overreach. After all, remember that then-Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) famously told us we had to wait until the law passed to find out what was in it.

Well, in that regard, she is right.  Obamacare does appear to be the gift that keeps on giving. We just keep finding out more and more about the law’s harsh consequences.  Most recently, we have seen how Obamacare disincentivizes the practice of medicine and how this affects doctors in America.  An AP story included the fact that already, “Nearly 1 in 5 Americans lives in a region designated as having a shortage of primary care physicians, and the number of doctors entering the field isn’t expected to keep pace with demand.”  For those who want to claim Obamacare is working, we’ll have to see how our healthcare system will handle a steadily increasing number of patients while the number of doctors steadily decreases.

It’s too bad the Gruber videos weren’t revealed before the 2014 elections, because they perfectly crystallize the entire Democratic 2014 campaign.  That is, don’t admit what you really believe or what you will really do in government.  Say things that purposely deceive or at least misdirect the voters from your true intentions.  Anyway, Gruber isn’t just a bad episode.  He is a living example of what the Democratic Party has become.  In its simplest form, Democrats want to talk to the right and then govern to the left. They hide behind platitudes and dishonest attacks on Republicans, but this just doesn’t work, as illustrated by the Democrats’ last gasp in Louisiana this past Saturday, when Senator Mary Landrieu lost her Senate seat to Bill Cassidy, 43 percent to 57 percent.



 


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Despite what is said tomorrow in the House Oversight Committee hearing, perhaps Gruber has already made a lasting contribution to the political vocabulary.  If nothing else, he has helped spawn a new verb.  As one gentleman wrote in a letter to the editor in The Leaf-Chronicle, “’gruberize’ will now refer to ‘the art of slicking buyers by using catch phrases and weasel wordsmithing.’”

 

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Democrats Kept Downplaying Jonathan Gruber’s Role in Obamacare- Then A Bunch of Emails Came Out
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Remember Jonathan Gruber, the MIT professor who became the center of controversy last year over how deeply involved he’d been in the creation of Obamacare?

He’s back in the news.

In 2014, President Obama called Gruber “some adviser who never worked on our staff.”

But emails the House Oversight Committee sent The Wall Street Journal reveal frequent discussions between Gruber and top administration advisors from January 2009 through March 2010.

Gruber, who said that Obama’s healthcare law passed because of a “lack of transparency” and “the stupidity of the American voter,” was in touch with key advisers, including:

Peter Orszag, who was director of the Office of Management and Budget (OMB), an arm of the White House that oversaw federal programs;
Jason Furman, an economic adviser to the President; And
Ezekiel Emanuel, who was then a health policy special adviser at OMB, reported The Wall Street Journal.
In an August 2009 email, Lawrence Summers, then a top economic adviser to Obama, asked Gruber:

“If you were POTUS, what would u do now?”

Gruber responded that the President should hold out for enough money to have universal coverage, according to the Wall Street Journal.

Gruber received nearly $400,000 from the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) for his work with health-policy computer models.

House Oversight Chairman Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) told the Wall Street Journal:

“His proximity to HHS and the White House was a whole lot tighter than they admitted. There’s no doubt he was a much more integral part of this than they’ve said. He put up this facade he was an arm’s length away. It was a farce.”
Gruber also informed HHS about interviews he had with health policy reporters, including then-Washington Post reporter Ezra Klein.

Jeanne Lambrew, a top Obama administration health adviser who worked at HHS and the White House, thanked Gruber “for being an integral part of getting us to this historic moment” in September 2009. In a November 2009 email, Lambrew called Gruber “our hero.”

Gruber even consulted with Lambrew before answering media requests.

When multiple videos emerged last year of Gruber mocking critics of the Affordable Care Act and commenting that a lack of transparency was necessary for the passage of the bill, Democrats like House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid attempted to distance themselves from the Obamacare architect, despite singing his praises while the bill was being debated.

Obama signed the health care bill into law on March 23, 2010.

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Democrats Kept Downplaying Jonathan Gruber’s Role in Obamacare- Then A Bunch of Emails Came Out

Gruber... romneycare than obamacare.  I don't like that dude.

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Gruber... romneycare than obamacare.  I don't like that dude.

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http://www.businessinsider.com/aetna-re-evalutaing-obamacare-business-2016-8


Aetna, the third-largest health insurer in the US, said Tuesday that it was reconsidering its offerings on the state exchanges that make up the backbone of the Affordable Care Act, the healthcare law more commonly known as Obamacare.

Here's a quick rundown of the announcement:

Aetna will not expand its Obamacare offerings into the New Jersey and Indiana state exchanges in 2017, as it originally planned.
Aetna's CEO also said the company was "undertaking a complete evaluation" of the Obamacare business.
On its conference call, the company said it expected an annual loss on its ACA business "in excess of $300 million."
The move comes after the US's largest health insurer, United Healthcare, said in April that it was abandoning the exchanges almost completely.
The Department of Health and Human Services responded saying insurers are "adapting to these changes" of the ACA at different paces and the state exchanges are still sustainable.
In a conference call following the company's earnings announcement, CEO Mark Bertolini said the firm had halted its plans to expand into New Jersey and Indiana in 2017 and was looking into the reasons for losses in the exchanges it was already participating in.

Here's Bertolini (emphasis ours):

"In light of the disappointing year to date performance and updated 2016 projections for our individual on and off exchange products, combined with the significant structural challenges facing the public exchanges, we believe it is only prudent to reassess our level of participation on the public exchanges. Our initial action will be to withdraw our 2017 public exchange expansion plans. Additionally, given the deadline to attest to our final rate filings for 2017, we are also undertaking a complete evaluation of our current exchange footprint as the poor performance of these products warrants such an analysis."

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i haven't heard trump talk about repealing obamacare much at all this summer.

lots of stuff about hilary being the devil, etc.   Not so much about the healthcare bullshit we're all facing daily.

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Another major insurer to bolt Obamacare while premiums go through the roof
American Thinker ^ | 03 August 2016 | Rick Moran
Posted on 8/3/2016, 12:17:01 PM by Lorianne

Aetna, Inc., the third largest health insurer in America, will not expand its Obamacare coverage into New Jersey next year as originally planned and is reassessing its participation in the Obamacare program.

In a conference call following the company's earnings announcement, CEO Mark Bertolini said that the firm has halted its plans to expand into two new states' exchanges in 2017 and is looking into the reasons for losses in the exchanges it is currently participating in.

"In light of the disappointing year to date performance and updated 2016 projections for our individual on and off exchange products, combined with the significant structural challenges facing the public exchanges, we believe it is only prudent to reassess our level of participation on the public exchanges. Our initial action will be to withdraw our 2017 public exchange expansion plans.Additionally, given the deadline to attest to our final rate filings for 2017, we are also undertaking a complete evaluation of our current exchange footprint as the poor performance of these products warrants such an analysis."

Originally Aetna was planning to expand to New Jersey and Indiana in 2017. It currently operates in 15 states across the US.

The decision by Aetna comes less than 4 months after the nation's largest insurer, United Healthcare, decided to roll back almost all of its Obamacare offerings after sustaining losses and after the Department of Justice denied Aetna's proposed merger with fellow-insurer Humana.

The move could also be worrying for consumers, since the number of insurers offering plans in a state is tightly correlated to the price of insurance.

As far as rate increases in other states, Illinois is being hit particularly hard:

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Illinois insurers seek premium hikes of up to 45 percent
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Health insurance premiums for Illinois residents who buy coverage through the Affordable Care Act's marketplace could increase by as much as 45 percent according to proposals submitted by insurers and made public Monday.

The leading insurer on Illinois' exchange, Blue Cross Blue Shield, is proposing increases for 2017 ranging from 23 percent to 45 percent for individual health care plans, according to proposals posted by Heathcare.gov. Another insurer, Coventry Health Care of Illinois, proposed rate increases as high as 21 percent.

Harken Health Insurance Company has proposed a nearly 29 percent hike in individual premiums and Health Alliance Medical Plans Inc. a more than 28 percent increase.

In a statement, Health Care Service Corporation, which operates Blue Cross Blue Shield of Illinois, said that although no final decision has been made, the proposed rates are in line with those in many markets across the country. It added that while some carriers have chosen to exit the market, it is "working toward continuing to provide health insurance options for consumers in Illinois.

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"However, that must be done in a sustainable way," the statement said. "Premium rates must cover the anticipated health care needs of our members, and consumer protections exist in the way of rebates if a certain percent of premiums do not go directly to covering medical services and quality programs. "

The proposed hikes have been expected because the health care law has been a financial drain for many companies.

Analysts have noted insurers are facing higher medical costs from customers, and some companies priced their initial coverage too low in an attempt to grab new business.

The Illinois Department of Insurance has until Aug. 23 to review the proposed rates, but, unlike several other states, it doesn't have the power to reject the proposed rates outright.

"We don't put too much stock in the numbers as they stand right now because we know the (Department of Insurance) is really negotiating the rates up until the last deadline," Kathy Waligora, director of EverThrive Illinois' health reform initiative, told the Chicago Tribune.

Illinois' marketplace has been roiled by recent defections. UnitedHealthcare, the nation's largest health insurer, is leaving after just two years of minimal participation. And Chicago-based Land of Lincoln Health, a 3-year-old startup that sold plans throughout the state, collapsed after suffering heavy losses. Its 49,000 enrollees are looking for new coverage for the rest of the year.

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