The great natty or not natty debate.

[Everhard]

Tommy Jeffers...natty or almost natty. Before anyone talks about his size, yeah his size I think is easy to get naturally but it is his conditioning that I wander about. The guy lost 62 lbs to do this show and still came in complete full and shredded. Anyone who knows anything knows that if you are natural once you start cutting you will lose muscle.

[BigRo]

Natural

[che]

. Anyone who knows anything knows that if you are natural once you start cutting you will lose muscle.

Not true

[juicemachine]

Anyone who has a clue will just look at this guys arm and know enough.

[calfzilla]

Legs scream natural to me.

[TrueGrit]

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=352055.0

[SF1900]

Legs scream natural to me.

He's part natural, part not natural. The steroids know to only go to his upper body and they avoid his lower leg. So he's part juicing/part natural. A rare specimen.

[Natural Beast]

he looks like a natty to me but who knows...

[The True Adonis]

Tommy Jeffers...natty or almost natty. Before anyone talks about his size, yeah his size I think is easy to get naturally but it is his conditioning that I wander about. The guy lost 62 lbs to do this show and still came in complete full and shredded. Anyone who knows anything knows that if you are natural once you start cutting you will lose muscle.

For the billionth time, conditioning has nothing to do with drugs.

[Hulkotron]

Easy to maintain without a ton of gear

[Costanza]

All I'm seeing are the perishing relics of a once (presumably) solid head of hair on a dwarf.

[The True Adonis]

conditioning has everything to do with drugs you  retard. 

[ChristopherA]

conditioning has everything to do with drugs you  retard. 

Bullshit. Conditioning is all diet. If you say otherwise, it's only because you didn't have the willpower and need drugs to cut.

[Coach is Back!]

Natural as a test tube baby.

[Coach is Back!]

No such thing as a "natural" competitive bodybuilder unless he's naive enough to not take anything.

[Everhard]

This pic is from few years back.

[ChristopherA]

ahaha. ok .  

actually its not only  the drug but timing of the drug too. then comes combination of drugs . then comes quality of drug . then comes food and then comes training and sleep.

you  clowns  are in first stage of bodybuilding since last 10 years.    

I hope English isn't your first language, retard.

[trapz101]

the gyno,the hairline


not natty

[Competitor 9]

Bullshit. Conditioning is all diet. If you say otherwise, it's only because you didn't have the willpower and need drugs to cut.

Conditioning with impressive size is where the drugs come in

[BigCyp]

Conditioning itself, is not dependant on drugs.....


However, there is a way that a true natural BB looks when he is 4-5% BF, and a way that a cheating 'natural' looks at that BF.


More fullness to the muscle fibres for a start.

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[juicemachine]

People who believe this is natural should take a full body shot from themselves from a few meters away, scale it down to same size as the guy in the picture, and compare. I think that would shatter some dreams.

[Sophus]

People who believe this is natural should take a full body shot from themselves from a few meters away, scale it down to same size as the guy in the picture, and compare. I think that would shatter some dreams.

This

[Tennisballz]

Plenty of dudes look like the guy in the green shirt, and he doesn't look like he's on steroids.  Would he not look the same way dieted down too?

[old-school-lifter]

NOT lifetime natural

built muscle with steroids and retains gains, then diets down drug free or using lower doses for a show- this is so called "natural" BB