i used creatine with my superdrol with minimal gaines.after 3 weks i gained 8 lbs 2 of which i would say was fat because of the huge amount of food intake. you get terribl lower back pain towrds week 3 so before taking it make sure you really want to take the risks of sides like high bp and back pain.also horrible for the liver. if you are willing to take a designer steroid you might think about looking into the real thing that has less sides and more gains