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Re: 12 year old shot and killed by police in Cleveland
« Reply #50 on: November 23, 2014, 09:28:43 PM »
Bullfuckingshit! At 12 years old if you don't know not to point guns at people then you shouldn't be playing with the fucking things. BB gun or not. And wheres his mom and her baby daddy at?

Were the police in immediate danger and left absolutely no choice but to merc him or..?

This is why we need military to do the policing and not these pansy scared porky pigs who shoot kids and taze elderly people. They are just as much a danger to the public as this little nig nig was.

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Re: 12 year old shot and killed by police in Cleveland
« Reply #51 on: November 23, 2014, 09:31:21 PM »
Bullshit.



You're only singing this tune because its a little black boy if he were white you would sing different tune

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Re: 12 year old shot and killed by police in Cleveland
« Reply #52 on: November 23, 2014, 09:32:08 PM »
Were the police in immediate danger and left absolutely no choice but to merc him or..?

This is why we need military to do the policing and not these pansy scared porky pigs who shoot kids and taze elderly people. They are just as much a danger to the public as this little nig nig was.
Have you seen any BB or airsoft guns? Modeled after the real deal, nobody would know the difference even a few feet away.
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: 12 year old shot and killed by police in Cleveland
« Reply #53 on: November 23, 2014, 09:50:59 PM »
Were the police in immediate danger and left absolutely no choice but to merc him or..?

This is why we need military to do the policing and not these pansy scared porky pigs who shoot kids and taze elderly people. They are just as much a danger to the public as this little nig nig was.

You live in fairy tale world.

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Re: 12 year old shot and killed by police in Cleveland
« Reply #54 on: November 23, 2014, 09:55:29 PM »
The top picture is the actual weapon the idiot was carrying (being held as evidence obviously) the second picture is an actual Colt Semi-auto. *In the top photo the "fin" looking item above the gun, just above the hammer, is the clip that has been removed and was placed along side the gun in the evidence box.  *for anyone not familiar with guns.

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Re: 12 year old shot and killed by police in Cleveland
« Reply #55 on: November 23, 2014, 10:39:02 PM »
Strange how policeman wouldn't choose to perhaps take out one of his legs - I mean god forbid that the child doesn't have a real gun (I mean that would never happen right - kids don't play with toys).

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Re: 12 year old shot and killed by police in Cleveland
« Reply #56 on: November 23, 2014, 10:57:49 PM »
Were the police in immediate danger and left absolutely no choice but to merc him or..?

This is why we need military to do the policing and not these pansy scared porky pigs who shoot kids and taze elderly people. They are just as much a danger to the public as this little nig nig was.

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Re: 12 year old shot and killed by police in Cleveland
« Reply #57 on: November 23, 2014, 11:17:35 PM »
Strange how policeman wouldn't choose to perhaps take out one of his legs - I mean god forbid that the child doesn't have a real gun (I mean that would never happen right - kids don't play with toys).
Thats not what police are supposed to do.   This isn`t the movies.

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Re: 12 year old shot and killed by police in Cleveland
« Reply #58 on: November 23, 2014, 11:18:45 PM »
You're only singing this tune because its a little black boy if he were white you would sing different tune

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Funny that you are the one that brings race into it, not I.

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Re: 12 year old shot and killed by police in Cleveland
« Reply #59 on: November 23, 2014, 11:22:10 PM »
Officer shoots boy holding fake gun at rec center

CLEVELAND (AP) — Police say a 12-year-old boy brandishing what turned out to be a fake gun at a Cleveland recreation center was shot and wounded by a responding officer.

Cleveland's Emergency Medical Service tells WOIO-TV (http://bit.ly/1FefMZO ) that the boy is at a hospital with serious injuries. His mother says he's in surgery for a stomach wound.

The shooting happened at about 3:30 p.m. at Cudell Rec Center after officers responded to reports of a male with a gun.

Deputy Chief Ed Tomba tells the TV station the boy had the weapon in his waistband, pulled it out and one officer fired two shots. He says the boy didn't make any verbal threats or point the gun.

WOIO reports the gun was a replica of semi-automatic pistol, and the orange safety indicator in the muzzle was missing.


Man yeah - the heart in this thread is overwhelming - really does sound like he "deserved" to die  ::)

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Re: 12 year old shot and killed by police in Cleveland
« Reply #60 on: November 23, 2014, 11:27:01 PM »
Stupid dead kid should have been carrying a real pistol, that way he could have stood a chance.   Darwin Award winner for sure.  He won't be missed.

How many blacks those fine American officers shoot every year  :)

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Re: 12 year old shot and killed by police in Cleveland
« Reply #61 on: November 23, 2014, 11:33:57 PM »
I played with a lot of realistic guns when I was a kid and never got shot. Although I am white and my mother told me never to point a gun at anyone especially police.

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Re: 12 year old shot and killed by police in Cleveland
« Reply #62 on: November 23, 2014, 11:57:29 PM »
Tell me you're kidding. This is not a "gentle giant" who happened to shoplift and attack old men for fun. This is a 12 years old kid who happened to be playing in the park with a toy gun. At 12 you're a child.
All that matters is he has the ability to pull a trigger.  You order the kid to keep his hands up and he reaches for a gun in his waist band.  You have 2 options, shoot him or assume it's fake.  Are you really gonna sit there and tell me you would assume it's fake?  So he pulls it and fires a shot killing your partner, what then?  Maybe this kid is just being mischievous but it doesn't change the outcome. Instead of focusing on chastising the police, maybe, the media should go after the parents or guardian of this kid.  Don't be shocked if the officer turns out to be black and you never hear of this again.

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Re: 12 year old shot and killed by police in Cleveland
« Reply #63 on: November 23, 2014, 11:58:03 PM »
When around the boys in black, never relax.

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Re: 12 year old shot and killed by police in Cleveland
« Reply #64 on: November 24, 2014, 12:07:17 AM »
actually, youre wrong. by 12 years old children can tell the difference between right and wrong.

By 3-5 years old children begin to develop a sense of right and wrong, obviously by guidance from their parents.

Uh oh. Think you might be on to something here.

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Re: 12 year old shot and killed by police in Cleveland
« Reply #65 on: November 24, 2014, 12:10:45 AM »
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This is a 12 years old kid who happened to be playing in the park with a toy gun.  

Airsoft guns are not "toy" guns. In addition, the kid removed the orange tip to make it look like an actual Colt pistol and then went around the park pointing it at people.

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Re: 12 year old shot and killed by police in Cleveland
« Reply #66 on: November 24, 2014, 12:13:09 AM »
The kid was probably mentally challenged.  IF their statement is true, I am going to give the cops the benefit of the doubt here.
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Re: 12 year old shot and killed by police in Cleveland
« Reply #67 on: November 24, 2014, 12:13:48 AM »
Airsoft guns are not "toy" guns. In addition, the kid removed the orange tip to make it look like an actual pistol and then went around the park pointing it at people.

Ha, yeah but that's the sort of shit and many brats would have done.

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Re: 12 year old shot and killed by police in Cleveland
« Reply #68 on: November 24, 2014, 12:23:50 AM »
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Ha, yeah but that's the sort of shit and many brats would have done. that gets people killed.
 

Here are some cases of shootings involving replica firearms.

2014

Aug. 5: Two Beavercreek police officers shot and killed John Crawford, 22, of Fairfield, after they responded to 911 call of a man walking around the Walmart in Beavercreek pointing a “black rifle” at people and who “looks like he was trying to load it.” Ohio Attorney General Mike DeWine said Crawford was carrying plastic replica weapon, a MK-177 BB/Pellet Rifle. During the shooting, Walmart shopper Angela Williams, 37, collapsed and died after “apparently running from a dangerous situation.” Beavercreek police Chief Dennis Evers said the officers likely acted appropriately. The Ohio Bureau of Criminal Investigation is investigating.

May 6: Two Lakewood, Colo., police officers shot and wounded Alex Robert Martines, 31, in a Walmart parking lot after he pointed a realistic-looking Airsoft handgun at the officers. Police responded to a domestic dispute between Martines and an a female acquaintance, who told police he was armed.

Feb. 5: Two Oxnard, Calif., police officers shot and wounded a 42-year-old woman, who was suicidal, after she pointed one of two realistic-looking replica guns at them and would not obey their commands. Police responded to a 911 call of a woman who said she had a loaded gun and was going to kill herself at a park.

2013

Nov. 16: Nick King, 14, was shot in the shoulder by a Battle Creek, Mich., police officer after responding to a man with a pistol in the bushes near a drive thru store. The teen had an Airsoft gun, which resembled a real gun. King survived, and Calhoun County Prosecutor David Gilbert ruled the shooting was justified. On July 30, three teen girls, who were with King at the time of the shooting, filed a federal lawsuit against the police officer and department claiming the constitutional rights were violated when they were “unlawfully detained” by police.

Oct. 22: A Santa Rosa, Calif., police officer shot and killed Andy Lopez, 13, for carrying a Airsoft gun, which police say resembled to a real AK-47 assault rifle. The Sonoma County District Attorney Jill Ravitch said the shooting was a tragedy but not a crime and that she would not press charges against Deputy Eric Gelhaus. She said the sheriff’s deputy thought his life was in danger when he shot Lopez.

June 12: A Springdale, Ark., police officer fires seven shots into a parked van after Rainbow Kilo Rasphoumy, 40, wanted for a domestic disturbance call, pointed what appeared to be a handgun at police during a standoff in a Walmart parking lot. Police said Rasphoumy, who was not injured, pointed a black plastic toy gun that resembled a snub-nose revolver. The Washington County prosecutor’s office ruled the shooting was justified.

April 5: An Oakland, Calif., police officer shot and injured one of two burglary suspects who was carrying a gun, which turned out to be a fake gun.

Jan. 5: Three Phoenix police officers shot and killed Chuckie Stowers, 39, after he allegedly stole a pistol-style BB gun from a Walmart store and pointed it officers as they approached him and ordered him to stop and show his hands.

2012

Jan. 4: Brownsville Texas, police officers, armed with assault rifles, shot and killed Jaime Gonzales Jr., 15, at Cumming Middle School, after responding to a 911 call of student with a gun inside the school. Police ordered the teen to drop the gun, which turned out to be an Airsoft pellet gun that resembled a black Glock. The death was ruled a justifiable homicide. Gonzales’s family filed a federal lawsuit against the city and five police officers.

2011

Oct. 23: Javier Gonzales-Guerrero, 25, was drunk and passed out in a hotel stairwell after a costume party in San Jose, Calif. He was shot by policeman, who had mistaken his gold-colored toy gun for a real weapon. Police said Gonzales-Guerrero was shot more than 20 times after ignoring police commands not to touch his gun and then moving his hands toward it. In September 2013, the city of San Jose agreed to pay $4.9 million to Gonzales-Guerrero, who survived.

Jan. 29: Matthew Cicelski, 39, of Oakland, was shot and killed by three police officers after pointing a gun, which turned out to be a replica assault rifle. Police responded to a report of an armed man acting erratically with a knife and gun while “patrolling” outside a home of his ex-girlfriend. Alameda County District Attorney Nancy O’Malley cleared the officers.

Aug. 31: A North Miami Beach, Fla., police officer shot and killed Ernest Vassell, 56, who was prowling through a neighborhood carrying what police later determined to be realistic looking replica gun. Family members said Vassell was mentally disabled from a fall he suffered as a child and had difficulty complying with officers’ commands.

2010

Dec. 16: Rohayent Gomez, 13, was playing “cops and robbers” with friends when he was shot by a Los Angeles police officer, who were patrolling the area for graffiti and gang activity. The teen and his friends were carrying Airsoft pistols when the police officer startled Gomez as he hid behind a van reloading his pellet gun. The officer yelled a command and the teen took a surprised step. He was hit in the chest and left paralyzed. The officer was cleared of any wrongdoing. In December 2012, a jury awarded $24 million to Gomez.

2009

June 14: Ronald Hughes, 66, a retired Baptist minister, was shot and killed by two Clay Center, Kan., police officers after he ignored orders to drop his gun and instead pointed it at them. The gun was later found to be a plastic toy. Police responded to a domestic violence call. His family said he had suffered multiple strokes that affected the “cognitive side of his brain.” The Kansas Bureau of Investigation ruled June 26, 2009, that the officer-involved shooting was justified.

May 11: A Los Angeles County sheriff’s deputy shot William Fetters, 15, who was playing a game of “cops and robbers” with a toy gun, thought to be real, while riding his bicycle and brandishing a weapon. Police said they ordered him to drop the gun, and when he refused, they shot him. In March 2013, a jury awarded $1.1 million to Fetters after concluding the deputy used excessive force. The sheriff’s office is appealing the verdict.

SOURCES: Alameda County District Attorney’s Office, the International Health & Epidemiology Research Center, Los Angeles Police Department, Sonoma County District Attorney’s Office and wire news services

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Re: 12 year old shot and killed by police in Cleveland
« Reply #69 on: November 24, 2014, 01:56:11 AM »
i suppose with the routine shooting sprees in US schools , the police can't afford to take any chances as it is not too uncommon for a kid to get possession of a real gun and then go wreak havoc with it.

just another sign of the times in the US unfortunately. way too many guns in circulation for what is claimed to be a civilised country. they won't learn any time soon.

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Re: 12 year old shot and killed by police in Cleveland
« Reply #70 on: November 24, 2014, 02:08:36 AM »
Gun looks real enough, we all know 12 - 14 year olds that kill, kid didn't comply = clean shoot. As much as I like firearms, don't let your kids play with realistic ones in public areas, unless it is known to police, etc.... It's been widely known that cops will shoot people with them since atleast the early 80's.

I remember seeing the warnings since the Larami days -

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Re: 12 year old shot and killed by police in Cleveland
« Reply #71 on: November 24, 2014, 02:09:16 AM »
i suppose with the routine shooting sprees in US schools , the police can't afford to take any chances as it is not too uncommon for a kid to get possession of a real gun and then go wreak havoc with it.

just another sign of the times in the US unfortunately. way too many guns in circulation for what is claimed to be a civilised country. they won't learn any time soon.

Guns are not the problem, it is the people.  Who is doing these shootings?  Nutjobs or low IQ gangstas.  We need proper facilities for these folk, with adequate supervision.
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Re: 12 year old shot and killed by police in Cleveland
« Reply #72 on: November 24, 2014, 02:27:14 AM »
Guns are not the problem, it is the people.  Who is doing these shootings?  Nutjobs or low IQ gangstas.  We need proper facilities for these folk, with adequate supervision.

if guns are not the problem then why do you have such a disproportionate problem with random shooting sprees in schools and other public places and gun crime in general compared with the nations in western europe that you are most similar too economically and socially.

it is blatantly obvious it is down to having too many guns in circulation.

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Re: 12 year old shot and killed by police in Cleveland
« Reply #73 on: November 24, 2014, 02:31:49 AM »
Strange how policeman wouldn't choose to perhaps take out one of his legs - I mean god forbid that the child doesn't have a real gun (I mean that would never happen right - kids don't play with toys).

exactly what I thought

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Re: 12 year old shot and killed by police in Cleveland
« Reply #74 on: November 24, 2014, 02:40:35 AM »
if guns are not the problem then why do you have such a disproportionate problem with random shooting sprees in schools and other public places and gun crime in general compared with the nations in western europe that you are most similar too economically and socially.

it is blatantly obvious it is down to having too many guns in circulation.

How would you handle that? Try to take away millions of legally owned weapons from Constitution-lovers? How would you envision something like that playing out here?

Good, bad, right, wrong, we've a unique history that way. Guns helped free the colony and have been American culture since its inception. Simply can't undo it at this point. Not that we (most) want to, anyway. We'll deal with our violent statistics for the right to defend life and property, and freedom, should the need arise.