I train at 4.30am to avoid all the juiced up roid wankers, i cringe each time i see them and just hope many years ago when i was a young meathead that I didn't come across like they do now, in my own defence i know I was different I never posed around carried my bag of supps.yelling and talking to myself I just trained and by 26 I had worked out this wasn't worth being anything more than a hobby even if I was winning titles, too much drug assistance required and no financial benefit,my energy and drive was best directed elsewhere, I dont even look at the juicehead bodybuilders in the gym, i give them and their drug filled bodies no acknowledgment whats so ever, i cant compare to them, we have different priorities in life, mine to benefit myself and family, theirs to impress like minded people to them, were on different planets.