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Re: NYPD Chokehold Cop - This should be the real Ferguson outrage
« Reply #300 on: December 05, 2014, 08:32:04 AM »
You can't assume anything that you can't prove. You're speculating. There is no evidence for a gun being planted.  This is how false ideas get stuck in peoples heads.  This is why despite all the evidence people still believe Michael Brown had his hands up and was shot in the back.  You could just as easily argue that a person involved in criminal activity is not above illegally possessing a gun.  It's occam's razor.

I can assume that it's possible, and that the cops have a motive for doing it.  Motive.  Since the cops were the ones finding the gun, that's opportunity.  I'm not saying I believe it, I'm saying it's entirely possibly and maybe a little likely. 

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Re: NYPD Chokehold Cop - This should be the real Ferguson outrage
« Reply #301 on: December 05, 2014, 08:47:18 AM »
i'm shocked when anyone decides to defend letting the man sit dead in handcuffs while they scuttle about looking for an idea as "hey, that's what you get for fighting cops".


He wasn`t dead in handcuffs.  You have to stick to the facts. 

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Re: NYPD Chokehold Cop - This should be the real Ferguson outrage
« Reply #302 on: December 05, 2014, 08:51:26 AM »
   


You can't assume anything that you can't prove. You're speculating. There is no evidence for a gun being planted.  This is how false ideas get stuck in peoples heads.  This is why despite all the evidence people still believe Michael Brown had his hands up and was shot in the back.  You could just as easily argue that a person involved in criminal activity is not above illegally possessing a gun.  It's occam's razor.

Everything is a conspiracy.  I lost count how many were presented in this thread.

You would think sticking to the facts and evidence would be easy here, given we have a video and everything, but sadly, they can`t even do that correctly.  Its insane really.

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Re: NYPD Chokehold Cop - This should be the real Ferguson outrage
« Reply #303 on: December 05, 2014, 08:54:30 AM »
Everything is a conspiracy.  I lost count how many were presented in this thread.

You would think sticking to the facts and evidence would be easy here, given we have a video and everything, but sadly, they can`t even do that correctly.  Its insane really.

whats your fact based take on the whle situation ta

unfortunate accident due to the man who dies being obese and unfit
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Re: NYPD Chokehold Cop - This should be the real Ferguson outrage
« Reply #304 on: December 05, 2014, 08:56:39 AM »
11 Facts!

6. Garner did not die at the scene of the confrontation. He suffered cardiac arrest in the ambulance taking him to the hospital and was pronounced dead about an hour later.

7. Much has been made of the fact that the use of chokeholds by police is prohibited in New York City. But officers reportedly still use them. Between 2009 and mid-2014, the Civilian Complaint Review Board received 1,128 chokehold complaints.

11. Less than a month after Garner's death, Ramsey Orta, who shot the much-viewed videotape of the encounter, was indicted on weapons charges. Police alleged that Orta had slipped a .25-caliber handgun into a teenage accomplice's waistband outside a New York hotel.














6. So what was Eric doing for those minutes lying on the floor, very Dead looking with eyes rolled into back of his head, He appeared very Dead or at The Least Dead Relaxed.

7. With that number of complaints it's probably safe to say there is still some use of the choke hold by police officers.

11, What difference does that make to the video footage he took.
And what is  the relevance to Eric's death & that particular police situation.

Are they trying to discredit the video footage taken.
I.E.. he is a criminal & this video may be untrue or staged to make the police look bad.

A lot of twist & turns by the police department, why not just say the situation was handled
Wrongly with the attempted choke hold, 4/ 5 police on top of him, & not giving Eric The
Due care & attention when He Needed It.

Eric's health & weight were probably a big factor in his death no doubt,
But being left unattended on the floor when he was unconscious / dead or dying,
Otherwise he was a damn good actor.

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Re: NYPD Chokehold Cop - This should be the real Ferguson outrage
« Reply #305 on: December 05, 2014, 08:57:01 AM »
whats your fact based take on the whle situation ta

unfortunate accident due to the man who dies being obese and unfit
That is what the medical evidence and video suggest.  240 wanted him to be tased which would have been way more strain on his body and would have surely killed him.  

He was teetering on death at any point.  The cops did not intend to kill anyone that day.  

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« Reply #306 on: December 05, 2014, 08:58:23 AM »
I can assume that it's possible, and that the cops have a motive for doing it.  Motive.  Since the cops were the ones finding the gun, that's opportunity.  I'm not saying I believe it, I'm saying it's entirely possibly and maybe a little likely. 


You're advocating that position without also acknowledging alternatives.
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Re: NYPD Chokehold Cop - This should be the real Ferguson outrage
« Reply #307 on: December 05, 2014, 09:26:55 AM »
That is what the medical evidence and video suggest.  240 wanted him to be tased which would have been way more strain on his body and would have surely killed him.  

He was teetering on death at any point.  The cops did not intend to kill anyone that day.  

thats my take

positional asphyxiation due to his weight

his size worked against him through the whole incident

if im ever in thet states and the police instruct me to do anything

you can rest assured i will do exaclty as they tell me immedietly

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Re: NYPD Chokehold Cop - This should be the real Ferguson outrage
« Reply #308 on: December 05, 2014, 09:28:30 AM »
Aug-2014 NYC

It was a homicide — and the chokehold killed him.

Eric Garner, the Staten Island dad who complained that he couldn’t breathe as he was subdued by cops, died from compression of the neck, the medical examiner said Friday.

The autopsy also found that compressions to the chest and “prone positioning during physical restraint by police” killed Garner. The manner of death, according to the medical examiner, was homicide.

Garner’s widow told the Daily News she was relieved that the coroner finally confirmed what she suspected since her husband died on July 17.

“Thank God the truth is finally out,” Esaw Garner said. “Thank God for that.”

Staten Island prosecutors are still investigating the 43-year-old man’s death. No one has been charged.

The announcement from the medical examiner’s office was the latest development in a case that sparked national outrage after The News obtained a sickening cell phone video. It showed Officer Daniel Pantaleo using the banned chokehold on the father of six.

Police say they approached Garner because he was selling unlicensed cigarettes — better known as loosies — and that he resisted arrest.

Eric Garner died July 17 after being placed in a chokehold. His death was ruled a homicide Friday.Eric Garner died July 17 after being placed in a chokehold. His death was ruled a homicide Friday.PreviousNextEric Garner died on July 17 after being placed in a chokehold. His death was ruled a homicide Friday.  Police officers used a choke on Eric Garner that resulted in his death.  NYC PAPERS OUT. Social media use restricted to low res file max 184 x 128 pixels and 72 dpi Enlarge
Many fear the incident will fan racial tensions. Garner was black. Pantaleo and most of the other cops involved are white.

Mayor de Blasio, who promised during his campaign to make the NYPD more responsive to minority communities, said Friday he was “absolutely committed to ensuring that the proper reforms are enacted to ensure that this won’t happen again.”

“We all have a responsibility to work together to heal the wounds from decades of mistrust and create a culture where the police department and the communities they protect respect each other,” he said.

The Rev. Al Sharpton, a vocal critic of the the NYPD, just a day earlier pointedly told the mayor his biracial son Dante could be “a candidate for a chokehold.” But Sharpton held his fire after the medical examiner’s announcement.

“We’re reviewing it and we’ll be announcing tomorrow what course of action we’ll be taking after we meet tonight,” he told The News.

The Staten Island district attorney’s office said they had been in touch with the medical examiner.

“We await the issuance of the official death certificate and the autopsy report,” an office statement read. “The investigation into Mr. Garner’s death continues.”

Daniel Pantaleo, the cop involved in fatal encounter with Eric Garner, has been reassigned.
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Daniel Pantaleo, the cop involved in fatal encounter with Eric Garner, has been reassigned.
The autopsy determined the victim’s asthma, obesity and high blood pressure were also contributing factors in his death.

Police Commissioner Bill Bratton said the NYPD will continue cooperating with Staten Island prosecutors, who are “the lead investigative entity in this case.”

Meanwhile, the Patrolmen’s Benevolent Association offered condolences to Garner’s family, but also said he was partly responsible for his death.

“We believe, however, that if he had not resisted the lawful order of the police officers placing him under arrest, this tragedy would not have occurred,” PBA President Pat Lynch said in a statement.

Pantaleo, on the force eight years, was stripped of his gun and badge and placed on desk duty. Pantaleo, 29, has been accused of false arrest and violating police procedures in two previous lawsuits, court records show. A second officer was also put on desk duty after the deadly Staten Island clash.

Garner, whose rap sheet listed 31 arrests beginning when he was 16, met his end in the Tompkinsville neighborhood. The area falls within the 120th Precinct, which has seven of the city’s most sued officers.

Video clearly showed Pantaleo wrapping a beefy arm around Garner’s neck as he brought the 350-pound man down. Garner landed on his hands and knees and then onto his side. And, as four other plainclothes cops joined in the fray, Garner was then forced onto his chest and held down on the ground.

Widow Esaw Garner said she was relieved that the coroner finally confirmed what she suspected.
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Widow Esaw Garner said she was relieved that the coroner finally confirmed what she suspected.
“I can't breathe!” Garner could be heard screaming. “I can’t breathe!”

But Pantaleo did not let go. He was seen forcing Garner’s face into the concrete. Four minutes into a seven-minute video clip, four EMTs arrived. But neither they — nor the eight cops standing around as Garner lay on the sidewalk — could be seen trying to help the unconscious man.

One emergency worker checked Garner’s pulse and told the apparently lifeless man that help had arrived. Then the cops and the worker lifted Garner onto a stretcher and he was driven to a Staten Island hospital.

The NYPD’s internal report prepared right after Garner died didn’t mention a chokehold and insisted he had not been in “great distress.”

But the video told a different story.

“As an individual who’s no expert in law enforcement, it looked like a chokehold to me,” de Blasio told reporters after news broke of Garner’s death.

Garner’s mother, Gwen Carr, 65, told The News after his death that she was relieved there were recordings of her son’s last moments.

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Eric Garner and wife Esaw.
“I don’t want him to have died in vain,” she said. “As people see, it’s just a godsend that we have the video. Just look at the tape.”

But PBA president Patrick Lynch cautioned against reading too much into the damning video.

“Videotapes never present all of the facts in a situation,” Lynch said. “They present an isolated period of a police interaction, but never the entire scenario.”

After several people were asphyxiated while in police custody, the NYPD forbade the use of chokeholds in 1983, stating it could only be used when an officer’s life was in danger.

Former Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly banned the use of chokeholds altogether in 1993.

The following year, Bronx resident Anthony Baez, 29, died after Officer Francis Livoti put him in a chokehold after a football he was throwing around with friends hit the cop’s car.

In the wake of Garner’s death, Bratton ordered that the NYPD’s 35,000 officers be retrained in the proper use of force when subduing a suspect.

Also, the four EMTs who apparently did nothing to aid Garner have been banned from responding to calls until the investigation is complete. They are not employed by the Fire Department.

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Re: NYPD Chokehold Cop - This should be the real Ferguson outrage
« Reply #309 on: December 05, 2014, 09:28:39 AM »
black "people" are not all bad, just 99.9% of them.

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Re: NYPD Chokehold Cop - This should be the real Ferguson outrage
« Reply #310 on: December 05, 2014, 09:38:22 AM »
Why not just comply?  The common theme in all these cases is that they are resisting arrest or not complying with officer's demands.  Are some cigarettes, or a little weed and some pills, or whatever it may be, worth dying over?  I feel like I'm in the twilight zone with this shit.  For fucks sake, it's common sense.  You resist, you're asking for trouble.  Plain and simple.  That can't be disputed.

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« Reply #311 on: December 05, 2014, 09:42:52 AM »
;D

Sometimes you're in that 1%, you black bastard! ;D
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« Reply #312 on: December 05, 2014, 09:57:06 AM »
Sometimes you're in that 1%, you black bastard! ;D

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Re: NYPD Chokehold Cop - This should be the real Ferguson outrage
« Reply #313 on: December 05, 2014, 10:36:11 AM »
Hammer meet Nail, BOOOM!


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Re: NYPD Chokehold Cop - This should be the real Ferguson outrage
« Reply #314 on: December 05, 2014, 10:47:14 AM »
Hammer meet Nail, BOOOM!


Race traitor. Hope the panthers get him.


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Re: NYPD Chokehold Cop - This should be the real Ferguson outrage
« Reply #315 on: December 05, 2014, 01:35:07 PM »
Aug-2014 NYC

It was a homicide — and the chokehold killed him.

Eric Garner, the Staten Island dad who complained that he couldn’t breathe as he was subdued by cops, died from compression of the neck, the medical examiner said Friday.

The autopsy also found that compressions to the chest and “prone positioning during physical restraint by police” killed Garner. The manner of death, according to the medical examiner, was homicide.

Garner’s widow told the Daily News she was relieved that the coroner finally confirmed what she suspected since her husband died on July 17.

“Thank God the truth is finally out,” Esaw Garner said. “Thank God for that.”

Staten Island prosecutors are still investigating the 43-year-old man’s death. No one has been charged.

The announcement from the medical examiner’s office was the latest development in a case that sparked national outrage after The News obtained a sickening cell phone video. It showed Officer Daniel Pantaleo using the banned chokehold on the father of six.

Police say they approached Garner because he was selling unlicensed cigarettes — better known as loosies — and that he resisted arrest.

Eric Garner died July 17 after being placed in a chokehold. His death was ruled a homicide Friday.Eric Garner died July 17 after being placed in a chokehold. His death was ruled a homicide Friday.PreviousNextEric Garner died on July 17 after being placed in a chokehold. His death was ruled a homicide Friday.  Police officers used a choke on Eric Garner that resulted in his death.  NYC PAPERS OUT. Social media use restricted to low res file max 184 x 128 pixels and 72 dpi Enlarge
Many fear the incident will fan racial tensions. Garner was black. Pantaleo and most of the other cops involved are white.

Mayor de Blasio, who promised during his campaign to make the NYPD more responsive to minority communities, said Friday he was “absolutely committed to ensuring that the proper reforms are enacted to ensure that this won’t happen again.”

“We all have a responsibility to work together to heal the wounds from decades of mistrust and create a culture where the police department and the communities they protect respect each other,” he said.

The Rev. Al Sharpton, a vocal critic of the the NYPD, just a day earlier pointedly told the mayor his biracial son Dante could be “a candidate for a chokehold.” But Sharpton held his fire after the medical examiner’s announcement.

“We’re reviewing it and we’ll be announcing tomorrow what course of action we’ll be taking after we meet tonight,” he told The News.

The Staten Island district attorney’s office said they had been in touch with the medical examiner.

“We await the issuance of the official death certificate and the autopsy report,” an office statement read. “The investigation into Mr. Garner’s death continues.”

Daniel Pantaleo, the cop involved in fatal encounter with Eric Garner, has been reassigned.
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Daniel Pantaleo, the cop involved in fatal encounter with Eric Garner, has been reassigned.
The autopsy determined the victim’s asthma, obesity and high blood pressure were also contributing factors in his death.

Police Commissioner Bill Bratton said the NYPD will continue cooperating with Staten Island prosecutors, who are “the lead investigative entity in this case.”

Meanwhile, the Patrolmen’s Benevolent Association offered condolences to Garner’s family, but also said he was partly responsible for his death.

“We believe, however, that if he had not resisted the lawful order of the police officers placing him under arrest, this tragedy would not have occurred,” PBA President Pat Lynch said in a statement.

Pantaleo, on the force eight years, was stripped of his gun and badge and placed on desk duty. Pantaleo, 29, has been accused of false arrest and violating police procedures in two previous lawsuits, court records show. A second officer was also put on desk duty after the deadly Staten Island clash.

Garner, whose rap sheet listed 31 arrests beginning when he was 16, met his end in the Tompkinsville neighborhood. The area falls within the 120th Precinct, which has seven of the city’s most sued officers.

Video clearly showed Pantaleo wrapping a beefy arm around Garner’s neck as he brought the 350-pound man down. Garner landed on his hands and knees and then onto his side. And, as four other plainclothes cops joined in the fray, Garner was then forced onto his chest and held down on the ground.

Widow Esaw Garner said she was relieved that the coroner finally confirmed what she suspected.
NORMAN Y. LONO FOR NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Widow Esaw Garner said she was relieved that the coroner finally confirmed what she suspected.
“I can't breathe!” Garner could be heard screaming. “I can’t breathe!”

But Pantaleo did not let go. He was seen forcing Garner’s face into the concrete. Four minutes into a seven-minute video clip, four EMTs arrived. But neither they — nor the eight cops standing around as Garner lay on the sidewalk — could be seen trying to help the unconscious man.

One emergency worker checked Garner’s pulse and told the apparently lifeless man that help had arrived. Then the cops and the worker lifted Garner onto a stretcher and he was driven to a Staten Island hospital.

The NYPD’s internal report prepared right after Garner died didn’t mention a chokehold and insisted he had not been in “great distress.”

But the video told a different story.

“As an individual who’s no expert in law enforcement, it looked like a chokehold to me,” de Blasio told reporters after news broke of Garner’s death.

Garner’s mother, Gwen Carr, 65, told The News after his death that she was relieved there were recordings of her son’s last moments.

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Eric Garner and wife Esaw.
“I don’t want him to have died in vain,” she said. “As people see, it’s just a godsend that we have the video. Just look at the tape.”

But PBA president Patrick Lynch cautioned against reading too much into the damning video.

“Videotapes never present all of the facts in a situation,” Lynch said. “They present an isolated period of a police interaction, but never the entire scenario.”

After several people were asphyxiated while in police custody, the NYPD forbade the use of chokeholds in 1983, stating it could only be used when an officer’s life was in danger.

Former Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly banned the use of chokeholds altogether in 1993.

The following year, Bronx resident Anthony Baez, 29, died after Officer Francis Livoti put him in a chokehold after a football he was throwing around with friends hit the cop’s car.

In the wake of Garner’s death, Bratton ordered that the NYPD’s 35,000 officers be retrained in the proper use of force when subduing a suspect.

Also, the four EMTs who apparently did nothing to aid Garner have been banned from responding to calls until the investigation is complete. They are not employed by the Fire Department.

What is wrong with you posting this shit?  This is not what the cops and cop sympathizers want to read.......

Go back and find an article by the head of a PBA or something claiming Eric actually died on the walk to the store.....he was just convulsing when he viciously attacked those five poor policemen.....

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Re: NYPD Chokehold Cop - This should be the real Ferguson outrage
« Reply #316 on: December 05, 2014, 03:38:00 PM »
31 arrest since the age of 16? Life long criminal who doesn't give a fuck about honest hardworking people and already cost the taxpayers more than likely 100's of thousands of dollars... not to be a Dick but good riddance. Don't even care about his race I wish we had a three violent / sexual felony and your deported / executed law. Put the money towards education system.

Now even in death he'll probably cost taxpayers millions

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Re: NYPD Chokehold Cop - This should be the real Ferguson outrage
« Reply #317 on: December 05, 2014, 05:03:43 PM »
It's so simple....Just follow the cops orders...And don't get 150 lbs overweight..

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« Reply #318 on: December 05, 2014, 06:14:02 PM »
The media has just begun reporting on the fact that a black female police sergeant by the name of Kizzy Adoni was supervising the arrest. She and another sergeant were given immunity to testify to the grand jury.  At no time did she attempt to stop/ adjust the manner of arrest or believe excessive force was being used.

Interesting that this was left out.

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« Reply #319 on: December 05, 2014, 06:17:36 PM »
The media has just begun reporting on the fact that a black female police sergeant by the name of Kizzy Adoni was supervising the arrest. She and another sergeant were given immunity to testify to the grand jury.  At no time did she attempt to stop/ adjust the manner of arrest or believe excessive force was being used.

Interesting that this was left out.

Interesting but not surprising, Mr. White.
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Re: NYPD Chokehold Cop - This should be the real Ferguson outrage
« Reply #320 on: December 05, 2014, 06:51:29 PM »
Why not just comply?  The common theme in all these cases is that they are resisting arrest or not complying with officer's demands.  Are some cigarettes, or a little weed and some pills, or whatever it may be, worth dying over?  I feel like I'm in the twilight zone with this shit.  For fucks sake, it's common sense.  You resist, you're asking for trouble.  Plain and simple.  That can't be disputed.

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Re: NYPD Chokehold Cop - This should be the real Ferguson outrage
« Reply #321 on: December 05, 2014, 10:07:46 PM »
Flavor of the month. What do socialists do when they want to take over a country. They subdue it with a minutia of carp that they know will keep the attention away from what they are doing behind closed doors. I do not give two shots about cops killing thugs. Who cares. These guys are crooks and resist arrest, they deserved what they got. I don't care what you call it. Screw them black white or brown . Break the law get confronted become defensive and argumentative then resist arrest. Guess what, you did. End of story. Stop breaking the law As.sho.les!!!

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Re: NYPD Chokehold Cop - This should be the real Ferguson outrage
« Reply #322 on: December 05, 2014, 10:38:55 PM »
Cop Who Killed Eric Garner been sued three times for allegedly violating constitutional rights

WOW.... the cop that conveniently "forgot" to include the choke hold/submission/whatever you call it -

He strip searched people (including all sorts of genital exam) in busy street in public for no reason, and arrested people on drug charges when no drugs were actually present
LOL    and in the SECOND case?   yep, public strip searches with plenty of attention on genitals.   Sick.  No drugs, he just likes to play with people's junk in plain view of others. 

The city had to pay for the first lawsuit, and is about to pay for the 2nd.    So he has a history of fcking with people on total BS charges.  And in this case, they were busting the dead fat guy because he sold cigs A DIFFERENT DAY but they wanted to search him today, right?  

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/12/04/choke-hold-cop-pantaleo-sued/19899461/

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Re: NYPD Chokehold Cop - This should be the real Ferguson outrage
« Reply #323 on: December 06, 2014, 06:15:51 AM »
Cop Who Killed Eric Garner been sued three times for allegedly violating constitutional rights

WOW.... the cop that conveniently "forgot" to include the choke hold/submission/whatever you call it -

He strip searched people (including all sorts of genital exam) in busy street in public for no reason, and arrested people on drug charges when no drugs were actually present
LOL    and in the SECOND case?   yep, public strip searches with plenty of attention on genitals.   Sick.  No drugs, he just likes to play with people's junk in plain view of others. 

The city had to pay for the first lawsuit, and is about to pay for the 2nd.    So he has a history of fcking with people on total BS charges.  And in this case, they were busting the dead fat guy because he sold cigs A DIFFERENT DAY but they wanted to search him today, right?  

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/12/04/choke-hold-cop-pantaleo-sued/19899461/

Come on now....is that all you have?  ;D

Cops or supporters claim the time of death was the only "fact" that matters.  They also point to Eric's former arrests as evidence that his life needed to be extinguished.....

If you check further into each of the murdering pig's settlements, it will most likely include a "no culpability" clause on behalf of the police dept.  They hardly ever admit to wrongdoing, although that will likely change, as they try to rebuild their image in the eyes of the public.

Too late for that for those who know better.......


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Re: NYPD Chokehold Cop - This should be the real Ferguson outrage
« Reply #324 on: December 06, 2014, 06:23:09 AM »
Cop Who Killed Eric Garner been sued three times for allegedly violating constitutional rights

WOW.... the cop that conveniently "forgot" to include the choke hold/submission/whatever you call it -

He strip searched people (including all sorts of genital exam) in busy street in public for no reason, and arrested people on drug charges when no drugs were actually present
LOL    and in the SECOND case?   yep, public strip searches with plenty of attention on genitals.   Sick.  No drugs, he just likes to play with people's junk in plain view of others. 

The city had to pay for the first lawsuit, and is about to pay for the 2nd.    So he has a history of fcking with people on total BS charges.  And in this case, they were busting the dead fat guy because he sold cigs A DIFFERENT DAY but they wanted to search him today, right?  

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/12/04/choke-hold-cop-pantaleo-sued/19899461/
Come on 240........ that would be welcome by most Getbiggers.