Lift 6-7x days a week?

[Knooger]

Anyway... Done with this thread, I know where I stand, tried to find other guys pics, nothing came up. Yup... Lots of proof!

Outed, Getbig's most homosexual.

[_aj_]

Anyway... Done with this thread, I know where I stand, tried to find other guys pics, nothing came up. Yup... Lots of proof!

Jeez. You didn't try very hard...

[ritch]

Jeez. You didn't try very hard...

Guess i'm not as gay as people think!
I put in the name of the person+pics, didn't work, no idea what else to do.
I'll let them post if they want, could care less man. I know what works best for me. And odd how the best f'in physiques on the planet train very similar...

[_aj_]

Guess i'm not as gay as people think!
I put in the name of the person+pics, didn't work, no idea what else to do.
I'll let them post if they want, could care less man. I know what works best for me. And odd how the best f'in physiques on the planet train very similar...

I know that I've seen pics of all of these guys, but I am not sure that I could find them with search terms. There's no central repo of pics, they just sorta happen over time in various threads.

[ritch]

I know that I've seen pics of all of these guys, but I am not sure that I could find them with search terms. There's no central repo of pics, they just sorta happen over time in various threads.

Then I guess I gotta take their word for it!
If you guys see some bloke doing max lifts ed the next few weeks, it may be me...

[_aj_]

Then I guess I gotta take their word for it!
If you guys see some bloke doing max lifts ed the next few weeks, it may be me...

Won't be me. I'm too old for that shit.

[Knooger]

Won't be me. I'm too old for that shit.

I've been doing sets of 12 reps. I assume this is easier on my body.

[ritch]

Won't be me. I'm too old for that shit.

4 reps is as heavy as i'll go. I need a bit of 4-6 reps done from time to time to wake up dormant muscles. 6-10 is pretty much my ideal range.

[SF1900]

Guess i'm not as gay as people think!
I put in the name of the person+pics, didn't work, no idea what else to do.
I'll let them post if they want, could care less man. I know what works best for me. And odd how the best f'in physiques on the planet train very similar...

There is an issue with that statement:

The people with the best physiques on the planet, also take the largest doses of GH, slin and steroids, as well as other drugs. Thus, when you take all those considerations into play, its really hard to determine if the way they are training is optimal, since they are on a LARGE amount of drugs.

In order to find out the optimum training routine, you need to keep as many factors as constant as possible, then see what routine works the best. When you have people taking drugs to enhance their physique, you cannot say that the way they train is the best, because many of them are on similar drug cycles. The way they train is optimal for them because they are on drugs. That same routine may not work at all for natural people or people on much smaller doses. You can't take the select few people with the best physiques in the world and say, "and odd how the best fucking physiques on the planet train very similar."

[_aj_]

I've been doing sets of 12 reps. I assume this is easier on my body.

Lately, I have been doing 10-15 reps per set and my dodgy shoulder seems to be getting better. I did take a set down to 7 reps in bb curls today. I still like to move the plates from time to time.

[ritch]

There is an issue with that statement:

The people with the best physiques on the planet, also take the largest doses of GH, slin and steroids, as well as other drugs. Thus, when you take all those considerations into play, its really hard to determine if the way they are training is optimal, since they are on a LARGE amount of drugs.

In order to find out the optimum training routine, you need to keep as many factors as constant as possible, then see what routine works the best. When you have people taking drugs to enhance their physique, you cannot say that the way they train is the best, because many of them are on similar drug cycles. The way they train is optimal for them because they are on drugs. That same routine may not work at all for natural people or people on much smaller doses. You can't take the select few people with the best physiques in the world and say, "and odd how the best fucking physiques on the planet train very similar."

The split is what took most bb'ers to the next level as they were all doing training everything twice a week. Natty's make even better progress as they don't recover as well. It's even more significant for them.

So nowhere am I taking a few examples, talking from a very long time having done this. But surely some get better results doing something different, but from what I've seen, the split is king. Some body parts can get a second spankin' but it has to be strategic, not just "training to train"... I mean if you do arms twice a week, back and chest may be affected. YOu could do bieceps with back but after back, no way am I ready to train them.

So, like all we do here, it's a pick your poison situation. No split allows you to focus and prioritize everything, I've spend countless hours with a piece of paper trying to get in each body part every x amount of days, but overlap is always a problem or having to go too many days in a row.

So.. It comes down to what I'm saying here, most make progress when I help them with similar ideas to what I do and is why I am big on them. To help others out as most are just spinning their wheels... If a guy 6 foot tall cannot fill out an xl shirt and be lean after a lot of years in the gym..

FAIL!!!

[2Thick]

I've never been able to do more than 4 days a week for very long. 5 or 6 days a week burns me out after a few weeks. I train very hard with a respectable amount of volume at a pretty quick pace. One hour or less on the weights usually.

[SF1900]

The split is what took most bb'ers to the next level as they were all doing training everything twice a week. Natty's make even better progress as they don't recover as well. It's even more significant for them.

So nowhere am I taking a few examples, talking from a very long time having done this. But surely some get better results doing something different, but from what I've seen, the split is king. Some body parts can get a second spankin' but it has to be strategic, not just "training to train"... I mean if you do arms twice a week, back and chest may be affected. YOu could do bieceps with back but after back, no way am I ready to train them.

So, like all we do here, it's a pick your poison situation. No split allows you to focus and prioritize everything, I've spend countless hours with a piece of paper trying to get in each body part every x amount of days, but overlap is always a problem or having to go too many days in a row.

So.. It comes down to what I'm saying here, most make progress when I help them with similar ideas to what I do and is why I am big on them. To help others out as most are just spinning their wheels... If a guy 6 foot tall cannot fill out an xl shirt and be lean after a lot of years in the gym..

FAIL!!!

No, its not a fail. Most elite bodybuilders are a VERY select few. Even if you took the pro bodybuilders who were not elite, its still a select few compared to the general population. Furthermore, most professional bodybuilders, elite or not, and even NPC competitors are on massive cycles. Again, your example of a split routine taking most bodybuilders to the next level is a ridiculous statement to make to try to prove its the optimum way to train. The world had over 5 billion people. I would bet that less than 1% are hardcore bodybuilders, even less for elite bodybuilders.

The way to find out what training routine is optimal, is to take an experimental and control group. Take participants who all have similar characteristics (height, weight, diet, supplementation). This will hold all variables constant to ensure that no other factors are intruding on the results. Then have one group use a split training and have the other group use a different style of training. Then measure the outcomes of the training routines.

Using a randomized control trial is the only way to assert with any certainty what is the optimal training routine.

Any other way, like looking at bodybuilder who used a split training routine is absurd and stupid.

You FAIL!

[ritch]

No, its not a fail. Most elite bodybuilders are a VERY select few. Even if you took the pro bodybuilders who were not elite, its still a select few compared to the general population. Furthermore, most professional bodybuilders, elite or not, and even NPC competitors are on massive cycles. Again, your example of a split routine taking most bodybuilders to the next level is a ridiculous statement to make to try to prove its the optimum way to train. The world had over 5 billion people. I would bet that less than 1% are hardcore bodybuilders, even less for elite bodybuilders.

The way to find out what training routine is optimal, is to take an experimental and control group. Take participants who all have similar characteristics (height, weight, diet, supplementation). This will hold all variables constant to ensure that no other factors are intruding on the results. Then have one group use a split training and have the other group use a different style of training. Then measure the outcomes of the training routines.

Using a randomized control trial is the only way to assert with any certainty what is the optimal training routine.

Any other way, like looking at bodybuilder who used a split training routine is absurd and stupid.

You FAIL!

Never gonna happen and you know it.
Ok, up to the readers to decide which method they think it best.
C'ause this is turning into a mere pissin' contest.

[SF1900]

Never gonna happen and you know it.
Ok, up to the readers to decide which method they think it best.
C'ause this is turning into a mere pissin' contest.

I know its never going to happen. Nonetheless, that is the only way to say with a degree of confidence which is the optimal training routine. Other than that, you have a bunch of anecdotal evidence that supports your position.

Though, the study i am explaining is not out of the realm of possibility. Many scientists have conducted similar experiments to determine which exercises produce the "best" results.

[ritch]

I know its never going to happen. Nonetheless, that is the only way to say with a degree of confidence which is the optimal training routine. Other than that, you have a bunch of anecdotal evidence that supports your position.

Though, the study i am explaining is not out of the realm of possibility. Many scientists have conducted similar experiments to determine which exercises produce the "best" results.

the studies always have huge flaws!
Electromagnetics showed flyes hit the pecs the most! Best for growth? Not really...

Then did they ever use advanced guys? Always beginers who respond to anything, so anything they study will be shown effective as in a sense... It all is...

We're just being a couple of pricks trying to be right on the internet, lol...

We're winning, we're winning!!!

[thegamechanger]

6-7 days a week just isnt possible if youre going to argue on getbig too

[SF1900]

the studies always have huge flaws!
Electromagnetics showed flyes hit the pecs the most! Best for growth? Not really...

Then did they ever use advanced guys? Always beginers who respond to anything, so anything they study will be shown effective as in a sense... It all is...

We're just being a couple of pricks trying to be right on the internet, lol...

We're winning, we're winning!!!

All studies have flaws, that is inevitable. Science is not perfect.

However, a randomized control trial does a lot better jobs holding some things constant and verifying results,  as opposed to your statement, "This is the best training routine because bodybuilders benefited from it."

At the end of the day, no one method is perfect in deciding the best training routine, but a controlled study is the closest thing we can get to having some sort of consistency. As stated, its much better than just saying, "X is the best training routine because I know bodybuilders who benefited from it."

Ive tried all different routines and I know what works best for me, so that is what I will keep doing.

[Go 4 It]

I know nothing of you guys, if you have a shape that is worthy to post, by all means, otherwise, just some dude clacking on the keyboard...

I trained 8 weeks straight for my last show, no rest days, 45-90 min cardio a day and trained 1 body part a day, however this was under optimal conditions, I was on vacation and the only thing I had to do was eat/sleep/train.

[DroppingPlates]

I trained 8 weeks straight for my last show, no rest days, 45-90 min cardio a day and trained 1 body part a day, however this was under optimal conditions, I was on vacation and the only thing I had to do was eat/sleep/train.

I think that's enough attention whoring for at least a year. Now please go back to your cruise ship and leave us alone, thanks.

[SF1900]

I think that's enough attention whoring for at least a year. Now please go back to your cruise ship and leave us alone, thanks.

LMAO!!! 

[Go 4 It]

I think that's enough attention whoring for at least a year. Now please go back to your cruise ship and leave us alone, thanks.

Happy Holidays Dropping Plates..the dude was asking for people to back up this type of training with photos. Honestly I think you have to find what works for you and your lifestyle in regards to training. .I've always been paranoid that if im not constantly training I'll lose muscle..I may even be over training its probaly more mental then anything.  

[DroppingPlates]

Happy Holidays Dropping Plates..the dude was asking for people to back up this type of training with photos. Honestly I think you have to find what works for you and your lifestyle in regards to training. .I've always been paranoid that if im not constantly training I'll lose muscle..I may even be over training its probaly more mental then anything.  

Happy Holidays for you as well, and I mean that because I believe you're a good hombre (sorry, no homo  )

Something that works starts with something that you believe in. There's nothing wrong with weight training every day, as long as you (i.e. individual muscles AND CNS) have time to recover. Is it required to avoid atrophy? Def not.

[ritch]

Happy Holidays Dropping Plates..the dude was asking for people to back up this type of training with photos. Honestly I think you have to find what works for you and your lifestyle in regards to training. .I've always been paranoid that if im not constantly training I'll lose muscle..I may even be over training its probaly more mental then anything.  

Was more asking proof about maxing out every single training... AS THE ORIGINAL topic was... I've said guys can get good results using different programs as just because it works for me does not mean it's one size fits all as it never is.

Guys I know who need to train all the time as super hard on themselves for nothing. They fear they will lose muscle as you claim I fear I will overtrain.

Guess it's all in the head, huh?

[SF1900]

Was more asking proof about maxing out every single training... AS THE ORIGINAL topic was... I've said guys can get good results using different programs as just because it works for me does not mean it's one size fits all as it never is.

Guys I know who need to train all the time as super hard on themselves for nothing. They fear they will lose muscle as you claim I fear I will overtrain.

Guess it's all in the head, huh?

The last week or two i have been training with more machines and using lighter weights. I keep thinking i will lose muscles but i know that is not the case. its all  in my head.