Test Question.

[R.A.M.]

I want to start a cycle of Test and Eq.  Also I will be taking Clen and Armidex. Possibly winstrol.  If it was up to me I would just take Eq.  But, we all know test is the base for any cycle.  So my question is, What is the smallest amount of test I can get away with.

Thanks

[jpeso]

stats?

age
weight
training history?
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[Double XL]

I want to start a cycle of Test and Eq.  Also I will be taking Clen and Armidex. Possibly winstrol.  If it was up to me I would just take Eq.  But, we all know test is the base for any cycle.  So my question is, What is the smallest amount of test I can get away with.
Thanks

what dose are you running the eq at?

[Arnold jr]

Grow balls, use test, or don't do gear...it's that simple.

Why would you not want to use test? It's the safest most beneficial thing you can take.

[R.A.M.]

Alright i'm 6ft , 216 pounds and this will be may 2nd cycle. I want to diet down to 200 or 195 before this next cycle.  My first cycle was 500 mgs of Test E and 75mg of Winstrol.  Love the feeling of test but, the only downfall was the water retention.  But this time I will be running Armidex to keep the water retention fairly low.  I was just curious on the lowest amount of test that can be ran in a cycle.  I basicly want the dryest gains that I can get with a good diet and a very good PCT.

Trust me I WILL take test I just like different views from people.

[Arnold jr]

wk 1-8 EQ 300mg wk
wk 1-12 sust 500mg wk
wk 9-14 winny 50mg ed
wk 13-16 prop 500mg wk
wk 1-16 a-dex 1mg eod

wk 17-19 PCT

[DIVISION]

wk 1-8 EQ 300mg wk
wk 1-12 sust 500mg wk
wk 9-14 winny 50mg ed
wk 13-16 prop 500mg wk
wk 1-16 a-dex 1mg eod
wk 17-19 PCT

^This cycle is close to what I'd recommend.

You could exchange the EQ or Winstrol, or change the duration, but that's the base cycle I'd have you run.



DIV

[wes mantooth]

i always thought the mg minimum of eq should be 400??

also, it usually takes a while to kick in, should eq be ran at least 10 weeks???

[DIVISION]

i always thought the mg minimum of eq should be 400??
also, it usually takes a while to kick in, should eq be ran at least 10 weeks???

There's no set rule, Wesley.

Besides, it's his first cycle.





DIV

[J-Land_Joe]

for a first cycle 300mg of eq is definitely enough.

[jpeso]

It says its his second cycle

[DIVISION]

It says its his second cycle

He can up the EQ if he wants, it's not that big of a difference, IMO.




DIV

[MarkyM]

Hyea there is no big differemce between 300 or 400mg of EQ/week.
Personally I would run 400mg of EQ and test Enanthate instead Susta if I take just 2 shoots/week.

[muscle19]

i have experience with test e only, i have always wanted to try sust and im thinking of switching over during this cycle to sust from test e. i like the cycle recommendations from a-jr, as him and div always give good advice. like u mentioned bro, the adex will take care with the water but to be honest, the only way i have water troubles is with a high carb/sodium diet which i tend to suck away from as i like to be lean then bulky. good luck with this cycle bro


muscle

[Arnold jr]

i have experience with test e only, i have always wanted to try sust and im thinking of switching over during this cycle to sust from test e.
muscle

If I were you I'd just stay with the test-e this cycle and save the sust for the next one. I don't think there would be any benefit in making the switch at this time, especially if you're already well into your cycle. I don't know how far in you're in, if it is only a wk or so, then if you switched it would probably be ok, but if not I'd stay with the test-e.

But definitely give the sust a try next go around, I don't think you'll be disappointed.

[ANAL DISCHARGE]

wk 1-8 EQ 300mg wk
wk 1-12 sust 500mg wk
wk 9-14 winny 50mg ed
wk 13-16 prop 500mg wk
wk 1-16 a-dex 1mg eod
wk 17-19 PCT

That's a quite a nice cycle if you like those of a longer duration.  I wouldn't up the eq but would extend it by 2-4 weeks and forgo the Winny (much better for short cycles).  Personally I would change the Sust for Enanthate and perhaps reduce the whole thing to 12-14 weeks pre PCT but that's just my preference.

[BIG_O]

I want to start a cycle of Test and Eq.  Also I will be taking Clen and Armidex. Possibly winstrol.  If it was up to me I would just take Eq.  But, we all know test is the base for any cycle.  So my question is, What is the smallest amount of test I can get away with.
Thanks

Sounds to me like you are scared of test. Lol....

I would never go below 500 mgs unless you are on HRT.

Water retention can be mitigated through diet, water intake, caffeine, proper ancillaries and herbal diuretics.

[muscle19]

Sounds to me like you are scared of test. Lol....
I would never go below 500 mgs unless you are on HRT.
Water retention can be mitigated through diet, water intake, caffeine, proper ancillaries and herbal diuretics.

good  advice


muscle