its not the prohormones are that harsh ( bar m1t dplex superdrol ) 
its just there shit without a test base. 
fair does test, tren and superdrol is a mean stack 
but superdrol on its own, strong but theese are NATTY gains we are talking
yes i know being on PH doesnt make u natty, but u look natty on them.
and nobody got time to look natty.