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How Crude Oil's Collapse Unfolded
« on: December 12, 2014, 08:00:39 PM »
Wall Street Journal
Russell Gold
Updated Dec. 12, 2014

How Crude Oil’s Global Collapse Unfolded
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On July 1, Libyan rebels agreed to open Es Sider and Ras Lanuf, two key oil export terminals that had been closed for a year. Libyan oil cargoes sailed across the Mediterranean Sea into Europe. Already displaced from the U.S. Gulf Coast and eastern Canada, Nigerian oil was soon replaced in Europe, too.

Increasingly, shipments of Nigerian crude headed toward China.

Oil prices began to decline. By the end of July, a barrel of U.S. crude fell below $100. In early September, the IEA, a Paris-based energy watchdog, noted there had been a “pronounced slowdown in demand growth.” A month later, oil prices fell below $90 a barrel.

By the middle of September, Petroleum Intelligence Weekly, a widely read industry newsletter, said both sides of the Atlantic Ocean were “awash in oil.” Nigeria, it declared, “needs to find new customers for its light, sweet crude streams in Asia.”

Saudi Arabia didn't want Nigeria to develop long-term relationships with refinery buyers in Asia. In late September, the kingdom decided to shore up its hold on them by, effectively, holding a sale. The Saudis cut their official crude price in Asia by $1 a barrel; within a week, Iran and Kuwait did the same.

Two weeks later, the IEA again lowered its full-year projection of demand growth by 200,000 barrels a day to a meager annual increase of 700,000 barrels, nearly half of what it expected at the beginning of the year. Oil prices fell nearly $4 a barrel on the news.

At this point, the oil market appeared to be in free fall. Of the 23 trading days in October, the price of crude fell by more than $1 on eight days. It rose by $1 on one day.

Traders’ attention turned to OPEC, which has traditionally played the role of market stabilizer by cutting production when prices fall and raising production when prices rise. Many OPEC members, reliant on the cash oil brings in to pay for generous social programs, didn’t want to cut.

Saudi Arabia’s powerful oil minister, Ali al-Naimi, was silent for weeks. The country had been burned in the past when it cut its oil output, only to see other countries continue to pump—and steal its customers.

And it was already feeling competition, says Abudi Zein, chief operating officer of ClipperData, a New York firm that tracks global crude movement. Colombia, which historically has sent most of its oil to the U.S., is finding its biggest buyer this year is China, a critical market for OPEC, he said.

“For the Saudis, Asia is their growth market,” Mr. Zein says. “The Nigerians and Colombians are being kicked out of their natural markets in North America. Saudi had to do something.”

http://www.wsj.com/articles/tracing-oil-price-plunge-back-to-texas-1418404579

It sounds like the members of OPEC are all fighting with each other over the Asian markets.

Here's the oil price each country needs to balance their budgets:
Saudi Arabia  $106
Russia           $100
Nigeria          $122
Venezuela      $117





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Re: How Crude Oil's Collapse Unfolded
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2014, 01:54:26 AM »
Good post mfrank.

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Re: How Crude Oil's Collapse Unfolded
« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2014, 05:29:40 AM »
The Saudis knew that they would be increasing their oil output. They knew that that would lower the price of oil, and that lower oil prices would lower the price of oil related stocks. So, before they increased their oil output, they sold all their oil related stocks. Now, that the price of oil and oil related stocks have cratered, the Saudis are buying up oil related stocks. When they have fattened their portfolios with oil related stocks again, they will cut oil output, and the price of oil will once again rise, as will the prices of oil related stocks. It's a win win situation for the Saudis, entirely under their control, so that is what they will do. Buying shares in oil related stocks now, will be the big winning investment for 2015.

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Re: How Crude Oil's Collapse Unfolded
« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2014, 06:39:24 AM »
All I can ask is where are all the conpiracy nuts, you have one directly in plane view and nobody even notices.

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Re: How Crude Oil's Collapse Unfolded
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2014, 06:42:00 AM »
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Re: How Crude Oil's Collapse Unfolded
« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2014, 07:13:36 AM »
All I can ask is where are all the conpiracy nuts, you have one directly in plane view and nobody even notices.

Read some books written by Eustace Mullins... not everybody dismissive of global scammers is as phony as Alex Jones.
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« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2014, 07:57:52 AM »
Read some books written by Eustace Mullins... not everybody dismissive of global scammers is as phony as Alex Jones.
holocaust denire? fuckoff

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Re: How Crude Oil's Collapse Unfolded
« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2014, 08:01:13 AM »
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Commodity/futures traders are the ones who control the price of oil.  Wake up.

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Re: How Crude Oil's Collapse Unfolded
« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2014, 09:25:24 AM »
Yes, at the end of the day the Saudis keep pushing up supply to keep flooding the market, thus lowering prices in the face of stagnant demand.  All done in order to put the smaller players (mostly North American firms) that don't have deep enough pockets to weather the storm, out of business.  Great long term thinking by the Saudis, and very good for the consumer, but still a cunty move.

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« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2014, 09:51:20 AM »
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Commodity/futures traders are the ones who control the price of oil.  Wake up.

A forty percent drop in oil prices in five months is the result of commodity traders panic selling.  However, supply and demand control the prices of oil in the long term. 


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Re: How Crude Oil's Collapse Unfolded
« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2014, 10:24:15 AM »
holocaust denire? fuckoff

You mean Robert Denire?
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Re: How Crude Oil's Collapse Unfolded
« Reply #11 on: December 13, 2014, 10:33:24 AM »
The Saudis knew that they would be increasing their oil output. They knew that that would lower the price of oil, and that lower oil prices would lower the price of oil related stocks. So, before they increased their oil output, they sold all their oil related stocks. Now, that the price of oil and oil related stocks have cratered, the Saudis are buying up oil related stocks. When they have fattened their portfolios with oil related stocks again, they will cut oil output, and the price of oil will once again rise, as will the prices of oil related stocks. It's a win win situation for the Saudis, entirely under their control, so that is what they will do. Buying shares in oil related stocks now, will be the big winning investment for 2015.
List of theories

1) competition buyout by the saudis

2) the opec members are peaking and need to manipulate the market to get their final bit of cash.

3) international conspircacy to stimulate teh economy as behind closed dooors things look real bad. Chinese-american's saudis all working together.

4)Everyone is trying to knock out US shale production.

5) were months away before a CIA backed revolution starts in some oil producing nation. This is all just an american plan to grab power.

6)The jews are making a highly intricate plan to save israel.






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Re: How Crude Oil's Collapse Unfolded
« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2014, 10:51:05 AM »
7) Lundgren working for the CIA -
-code name private Paula
-mission to infiltrate and subjugate all dissidents who may oppose the oily  thong by projecting mental retardation on them... 3rd eye/anus coordination critical
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Re: How Crude Oil's Collapse Unfolded
« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2014, 11:17:11 AM »
No mention of Saudi & American desires to hurt Russian & Iranian economies?

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« Reply #14 on: December 13, 2014, 11:19:14 AM »

5) were months away before a CIA backed revolution starts in some oil producing nation. This is all just an american plan to grab power.

6)The jews are making a highly intricate plan to save israel.






No mention of Saudi & American desires to hurt Russian & Iranian economies?
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Re: How Crude Oil's Collapse Unfolded
« Reply #15 on: December 13, 2014, 12:20:25 PM »
Great news is: Arabs import camels from Australia (U.S. too, for milk)  :D
1L of camels milk sells for $ 25  :o

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Re: How Crude Oil's Collapse Unfolded
« Reply #16 on: December 13, 2014, 12:37:04 PM »
No mention of Saudi & American desires to hurt Russian & Iranian economies?

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Re: How Crude Oil's Collapse Unfolded
« Reply #17 on: December 13, 2014, 01:33:26 PM »
x2

Putins economy is fucked ..................
Persians = turncoats ..........

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Re: How Crude Oil's Collapse Unfolded
« Reply #18 on: December 13, 2014, 02:01:51 PM »
I hope we all swich over to electric soon so they get fucked up the ass. fuck the arabs

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Re: How Crude Oil's Collapse Unfolded
« Reply #19 on: December 13, 2014, 02:06:57 PM »
1) OPEC.

2) Speculation.

3) Supply & demand.

4) Fluctuations in currency.


Not Bush, not Obama, not Republicans or Dems. You can only blame them for gasoline taxes and perhaps the Fed for the minor factor of weakening the currency.

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Re: How Crude Oil's Collapse Unfolded
« Reply #20 on: December 14, 2014, 06:17:11 AM »
Perhaps getbig will produce the next Keynes or Von Mises.  Bronomics maybe. 

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« Reply #21 on: December 14, 2014, 02:20:49 PM »
Perhaps getbig will produce the next Keynes or Von Mises.  Bronomics maybe. 

Even the tard forum could produce the next Keynes.

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Re: How Crude Oil's Collapse Unfolded
« Reply #22 on: December 14, 2014, 06:13:43 PM »
 OPEC holds firm on production as oil prices spiral
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CALGARY — The Globe and Mail
Published Sunday, Dec. 14 2014,
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The price drop, Mr. al-Badri said, is without merit.

“The fundamentals should not lead to this dramatic reduction [in price],” he said at a conference in Dubai, speaking in Arabic through an English interpreter.

He said only a small increase in supply had led to a sharp drop in prices, adding: “I believe that speculation has entered strongly in deciding these prices.”

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Re: How Crude Oil's Collapse Unfolded
« Reply #23 on: December 14, 2014, 07:37:39 PM »
The Number Of US Oil Rigs In Operation Just Dropped By The Most In Two Years
Myles Udland
Dec. 14, 2014

The number of oil rigs in operation is falling.

Last week, the number of oil rigs in use in the US fell by 27 — to 1,893 from 1,920 the prior week — according to the latest weekly rig count from Baker Hughes.

This was the biggest single weekly drop in rig count in two years, according to Bloomberg.

In a report Friday, Bloomberg’s Lynn Doan cited comments from an oilfield services analyst who said simply: “It’s starting.”

Analyst Robert Mackenzie told Bloomberg, “We knew this day was going to come. It was only a matter of time before the rig count was going to respond.”

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Re: How Crude Oil's Collapse Unfolded
« Reply #24 on: December 15, 2014, 08:10:54 AM »
Petroleum Intelligence Weekly ?  hahaha.

Give me a break about Saudis needing $106 oil.  Their entire oil infrastructure has been paid for years ago.  Everything they pump is pure proift.  Saudis were the richest people in the world when oil was $20, you don't think over the last decade at $100 that their wealth didn't go up 5X?  They are swimming in cash.