Methyltrienolone or Oral tren, who has used it?

[MONSTER_TRICEPS]

So according to the following chart, this is supposed to be one of the strongest compounds available.
Hepatoxicity must be quite serious because of the added methyl group (or even 2 methyl groups in the case of dimethyltrienolone).
I would imagine this is particularly beneficial for powerlifters.

So who here used this, and what were the results?

[Jizmo]

its like tren on steroids
one of the best AAS, can instantly feel it. only taken the injectable from 1-3mg
2mg 90mins pre workout is the sweet spot imo

liver values were raised after 3 weeks on 2mg 5 times a week but not drastically (both ALT and AST still under 100)

[_aj_]

Not that I even put much stock in these arbitrary anabolic/androgenic values, is it remotely believable that oral-tren is 100x testosterone? Do you turn into the hulk overnight?

[Waller]

I have been using 1mg oral tren as a pre workout for a few weeks now.

It works fast and works well. Take that, half hour later you don't want to fuck about. It makes for good training, but kinda shortens your fuse for a few hours too.

[visualizeperfection]

Not that I even put much stock in these arbitrary anabolic/androgenic values, is it remotely believable that oral-tren is 100x testosterone? Do you turn into the hulk overnight?

ask ESF.

[MONSTER_TRICEPS]

Not that I even put much stock in these arbitrary anabolic/androgenic values, is it remotely believable that oral-tren is 100x testosterone? Do you turn into the hulk overnight?

Look at Jizmo's response. 2mg ed is already a lot, so yes it is believable. It is actually often dosed in mcg's. 

[Jizmo]

Look at Jizmo's response. 2mg ed is already a lot, so yes it is believable. It is actually often dosed in mcg's. 

i think oral is harsher than injectable though... there are quite a few people who ran more of the injectable, however orally its mostly dosed 500mcg-1mg... theres a study on people who had liver failure and jaundice on i think 2mg orally for just 14 days lol
2mg injectable is no problemo tho

but then there was this guy on a forum (steroid.com or so) who took 8mg of the injectable for a few days and died from some heart problems
makes u wonder 

[Waller]

i think oral is harsher than injectable though... there are quite a few people who ran more of the injectable, however orally its mostly dosed 500mcg-1mg... theres a study on people who had liver failure and jaundice on i think 2mg orally for just 14 days lol
2mg injectable is no problemo tho

but then there was this guy on a forum (steroid.com or so) who took 8mg of the injectable for a few days and died from some heart problems
makes u wonder 

I can attest to how toxic the oral is. The orals might maybe possibly make me piss a slightly tiny not all that concerning bit of blood... Having worded it like that I can feel comfortable irresponsibly using them still 

[_aj_]

I can attest to how toxic the oral is. The orals might maybe possibly make me piss a slightly tiny not all that concerning bit of blood... Having worded it like that I can feel comfortable irresponsibly using them still 

Makes me feel downright responsible for pinning test.

[Waller]

Makes me feel downright responsible for pinning test.

By comparison it's positively healthy.