Ferguson, a perfect example of why all Americans need guns

[Archer77]

oh ok, so it's as easy/hard to stop/hit an attacker with any type of gun as it is with a shotgun. no difference.

Not really.  It's easier for a novice to hit a target with shotgun-depending on what kind of shells they use.

[thegamechanger]

Not really.  It's easier for a novice to hit a target with shotgun-depending on what kind of shells they use.

hmm not according to aj. it requires as much training or more

im confused now, two difference opinions. 

[Archer77]

hmm not according to aj. it requires as much training or more

im confused now, two difference opinions. 

I would suggest you do your own research but I don't see that happening

[thegamechanger]

I would suggest you do your own research but I don't see that happening

im trying to but im very busy with other research right now, everything from wedlocks for blacks to foot positioning on the leg press. i wish there were more hours in a day

[Archer77]

im trying to but im very busy with other research right now, everything from wedlocks for blacks to foot positioning on the leg press. i wish there were more hours in a day

Why are you mocking out of wedlock births?  I provided clear evidence that it's a problem.  I was helping you, as its clear you haven't done much personal research.  You seem content repeating talking points.

[_aj_]

Not really.  It's easier for a novice to hit a target with shotgun-depending on what kind of shells they use.

That's somewhat of a fallacy depending on the distance. I've killed more by far with my 870P, so I know what is and isn't capable of. Short distance, the projectiles stay in a tight ball. At large distances, the spread becomes so severe that it is no longer a capable round.

On a stationary target, maybe. But a battle rifle like a M4 is a much better choice. Wall penetration in 5.56mm round is mitigated with frangible ammo.

I do like shotguns for home defense, but it's not magical and requires more than a little practice.

[Archer77]

That's somewhat of a fallacy depending on the distance. I've killed more by far with my 870P, so I know what is and isn't capable of. Short distance, the projectiles stay in a tight ball. At large distances, the spread becomes so severe that it is no longer a capable round.

On a stationary target, maybe. But a battle rifle like a M4 is a much better choice. Wall penetration in 5.56mm round is mitigated with frangible ammo.

I do like shotguns for home defense, but it's not magical and requires more than a little practice.

These are valid points. I was looking at it in basic terms of shot spread. You're right, at a close distance that is fine but the further away the less effective.  Good post, AJ.

[thegamechanger]

shotguns are not as effective on long distance?

wow you learn something new every day 

[Archer77]

shotguns are not as effective on long distance?

wow you learn something new every day 

I doubt you learn something everyday.  Even after I showed you that children born out of wedlock is a problem in the black community you still scoffed and dismissed the information.  I gave you an opportunity to learn something but you refused.

[_aj_]

I doubt you learn something everyday.  Even after I showed you that children born out of wedlock is a problem in the black community you still scoffed and dismissed the information.  I gave you an opportunity to learn something but you refused.

That appears to be a pattern with him.

[thegamechanger]

I doubt you learn something everyday.  Even after I showed you that children born out of wedlock is a problem in the black community you still scoffed and dismissed the information.  I gave you an opportunity to learn something but you refused.

i thought we agreed that it was a problem and as soon as that get fixed things will start to look up 

[Archer77]

i thought we agreed that it was a problem and as soon as that get fixed things will start to look up 

No you scoffed and  made light of it.   I also pointed you in the right direction to prove whether all races in poverty have the same levels of crime.  Are you going to research that or stick to your assumption?

[thegamechanger]

No you scoffed and  made light of it.   I also pointed you in the right direction to prove whether all races in poverty have the same levels of crime.  Are you going to research that or stick to your assumption?

maybe it takes a little bit more for me to accept something as "proof" 

[BroadStreetBruiser]

Guys, I went to a nice dinner and did some food shopping. Did the revolution start yet? Did I miss anything? Do I need to quick scope some noobs?

[Archer77]

maybe it takes a little bit more for me to accept something as "proof" 

I think that would be why you come to so many unsupported conclusions.  You're definition of accepted proof seems to be dependent on the the conclusion you want not the conclusion supported by facts. Actually, I don't see any proof for your claims. 

[thegamechanger]

Guys, I went to a nice dinner and did some food shopping. Did the revolution start yet? Did I miss anything? Do I need to quick scope some noobs?

i hope you brought your shotgun, nailgun, tommy-gun, paintball rifle, ak-47, glock 17, glock 19, winchester, stink bomb and shuriken.

[obsidian]

I'm not afraid. I'm frustrated and angry that the governments and large parts of the western world don't realize how serious the situation is.  There is no question in my mind that something big will happen within the next 20 year period. The situation in the US and Europe are related but there are differences too.

They realize it. It has been done intentionally. The public doesn't want it yet they still do it. Go do some research and look at the players and their involvement. Do you really think that they would willingly commit suicide and condemn their own children? No, their strings are getting pulled and they think they will be in the lifeboats when the SHTF.

White countries have intentionally been flooded with non-whites and white birthrates intentionally lowered via social engineering (feminism, homo agenda, pornography, media, education government, sports, immigration) etc. Why would non-white immigration lead to lowered birth rates? Ever heard a white female say she'd rather not bring a baby into this fucked up crime-ridden world? Feminism reduces birth rates because it led to women in the workplace and abortions (women's right to do with her body as she pleases) etc.

Fact is birth rates can be lowered or raised via social engineering.

[muscleman-2013]

Fact is birth rates can be lowered or raised via social engineering.

AGREED

[obsidian]

That's how you have to approach it, if you work within the current system you simply have to accept that certain parts of the country have to be left to the animals.

At some point of course the governments will collapse, and there will be war. Negroes are going to attack whites, muslims will also attack whites and christians. You will have many factions fighting each other including various muslim groups fighting each other. All the conflicts from the middle east have been imported to Europe. This will happen across large parts of the western world. I suspect the fighting will begin in Scandinavia, probably Sweden. It might start in France too. Then it will spread to UK, Belgium, Netherlands etc.

Once the negroes start mass attacking whites is when whites will wake up and realize it is time to start using their genetics to their advantage. Fact is whites are better at making war because of their increased intelligence. One benefit of a SHTF scenario is feminism goes out the door immediately. Feminists will start latching onto the nearest male they think will protect them. The natural order of things will actually be restored in a SHTF situation.

What is worse is that the SHTF in 50 - 100 years at which time white people are a tiny minority. The shit needs to hit the fan tomorrow or next week in a big way to wake up the white masses so order can be restored. And it will have to be brutal - it has to be an all the way big SHTF event that will include the collapse of most countries and wild uncontrollable fighting everywhere.

[Skorp1o]

You don't need guns.

My retirement plan is exceeding it's expectations where I will buy a villa with pool in Ibiza and move permanently, you can all come over and claim asylum**, don't bring guns, just ecstasy tablets and condoms lot's of 7s and 8s in here to go through with the occasional 9.

No neeguls from Ferguson will bother you here









**This offer excludes: Shizzo, Army of One, Denarii, Falco and other assholes I've forgotten their names.