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Re: 2 cops executed in NYC
« Reply #125 on: December 22, 2014, 11:30:43 AM »
Tragic.  Those protesters who were chanting for dead cops definitely have blood on their hands. 

I also think folks like Sharpton and de Blasio helped create a climate of hate and intolerance for law enforcement that helped motivate that guy to commit murder. De Blasio ran on an anti-cop platform, gave a speech blaming Garner's death on centuries of racism, and told people that he has to teach his son to be afraid of the cops.  We should not be surprised if that kind of false and incendiary rhetoric makes it easier for people to not only disrespect law enforcement, but commit acts of violence against them.

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Re: 2 cops executed in NYC
« Reply #126 on: December 22, 2014, 11:44:30 AM »
Tragic.  Those protesters who were chanting for dead cops definitely have blood on their hands. 

I also think folks like Sharpton and de Blasio helped create a climate of hate and intolerance for law enforcement that helped motivate that guy to commit murder. De Blasio ran on an anti-cop platform, gave a speech blaming Garner's death on centuries of racism, and told people that he has to teach his son to be afraid of the cops.  We should not be surprised if that kind of false and incendiary rhetoric makes it easier for people to not only disrespect law enforcement, but commit acts of violence against them.

too bad he had to shoot his girlfriend in protest of Eric Garners homicide

tough break for that girl


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Re: 2 cops executed in NYC
« Reply #127 on: December 22, 2014, 11:51:21 AM »
Cops that neglect their oath and call their own shots are contributing to future crime, and they are endangering the lives of good officers.

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Re: 2 cops executed in NYC
« Reply #128 on: December 22, 2014, 11:57:25 AM »
Good commentary.

There is blood on hands of those who demanded ‘dead cops’
By Bob McManusDecember 21, 2014
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In this Dec. 4, 2014, file photo, protesters carry signs criticizing the police, and replicas of coffins during a march over the Brooklyn Bridge to protest a grand jury's decision not to indict the police officer involved in the death of Eric Garner, in New York.

“What do we want?” drones the blood chant.

“Dead cops!” comes the reply.

Done.

Thus does rhetoric have consequences.

There may have been just a single shooter in Bedford-Stuyvesant on Saturday afternoon. But New York’s failure to denounce without nuance the bloodlust that’s been boiling out of the corners of the Eric Garner-Michael Brown demonstrations for weeks now boils down to this:

There is blood on many hands this morning.

Yes, First Amendment. Yes, redress of grievances. Yes, peaceful protests — even as clogged bridges and mobbed boulevards created, however temporarily, very real peril for tens of thousands of New Yorkers every night for a week.

The free-speech trope is so obviously true that it’s a deflection even to raise it.

Here’s the real issue: It was, and it remains, the responsibility of protest organizers — such as they may be in the face of ubiquitous social media — to directly address murderous incantations, to unequivocally condemn those who call down harm on the city’s protectors.

And they didn’t do that.

Moreover, when two of the six people who “allegedly” attacked two cops on the Brooklyn Bridge a week ago Saturday night turn out to be, respectively, a CUNY professor and an organizer for a union that placed five one-time senior union leaders in top de Blasio ­administration posts, it’s clear that New York isn’t dealing with bearded Bolsheviks living in caves.

Violence against cops has gone mainstream — that is, violent threats to society itself can manifest virtually without a soul among the city’s elected leaders saying so much as boo.

Pitiful.

The cops understand all this, of course. They get the threat. They are steeped in the department’s institutional memories of other cops, executed from ambush in similar circumstances. They know its tradition of reflexive heroism under deadly threat — and they are proud it its record: Not perfect, of course, but better than anyone else’s.

And now this.

Who would have thought that PBA President Pat Lynch’s don’t-come-to-my-funeral petition would have become so relevant, so prescient, so tragically right to the point.
So quickly.

There will be time to count the political consequences of Saturday’s cowardly murders.

They will be substantial.

The city’s cut-the-baby-in-half approach to the Garner-Brown protests — genuflect to the PBA, confer with the most rhetorically irresponsible of the protesting groups, rinse, repeat — lent an air of moral equivalence to the events leading up to Saturday’s savagery.

Nobody knows what was in the shooter’s mind, of course; happily, he relieved society of the ­responsibility of trying to find out with a well-placed bullet to his own head.

But anybody who thinks he wasn’t emboldened by City Hall’s placidity in the face of nihilistic, bloodthirsty incantations is delusional.

And anyone who believes that the city’s decision not to draw a high-profile line — even if only symbolically — after the ­“alleged” Brooklyn Bridge attacks was not empowering to the shooter is equally wrong.

Was the shooter crazy? Define crazy. The city is full of crazies. And none of them needs to be ­encouraged in their psychoses — certainly not by the suggestion that official New York thinks they somehow may have a point.

It’s wrong to blame the protests wholly for the actions of one person — up to a point.

That is, right up to the point when the protesters began to ­demand dead cops — and nobody put a stop to it.

Right up to the point where protesters began to drop full garbage cans 10 feet down on unsuspecting cops, and nobody took it for what it was: An escalation that culminated in yesterday’s Bed-Stuy executions.

And now for the funerals — for the heartbreaking skirl of the pipes and the agony of the families; for the grim-faced officers from across America, lined to the horizon in silent tribute to ambushed brothers; for the folded flags and the endless motorcades to the cemetery.

You wanted dead cops, protesters? You got ’em.

Now live with it. If you can.

http://nypost.com/2014/12/21/there-is-blood-on-hands-of-those-who-demanded-dead-cops/

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Re: 2 cops executed in NYC
« Reply #130 on: December 22, 2014, 12:03:22 PM »
show me the exact wording, please.

Agnostic already did above. 

DiBlasio is a communist pos.  There is only one thing i don't like more than corrupt cops - its communists - lib fags - socialists - and Marxists like Obama and deblasio

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Re: 2 cops executed in NYC
« Reply #131 on: December 22, 2014, 12:03:53 PM »

you voted for Obama 2x over - you are in no position whatsoever to attack others

Do people who voted for that shitbag Clinton twice have any ground to attack others?

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Re: 2 cops executed in NYC
« Reply #133 on: December 22, 2014, 12:31:22 PM »

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Re: 2 cops executed in NYC
« Reply #134 on: December 22, 2014, 12:33:36 PM »
Calling for an end to protests is a step in the right direction.

But i thought the protests had nothing to do w what this animal did?

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Re: 2 cops executed in NYC
« Reply #135 on: December 22, 2014, 12:43:56 PM »
Good commentary.

There is blood on hands of those who demanded ‘dead cops’
By Bob McManusDecember 21, 2014
Bob McManus

In this Dec. 4, 2014, file photo, protesters carry signs criticizing the police, and replicas of coffins during a march over the Brooklyn Bridge to protest a grand jury's decision not to indict the police officer involved in the death of Eric Garner, in New York.

“What do we want?” drones the blood chant.

“Dead cops!” comes the reply.

Done.

Thus does rhetoric have consequences.

There may have been just a single shooter in Bedford-Stuyvesant on Saturday afternoon. But New York’s failure to denounce without nuance the bloodlust that’s been boiling out of the corners of the Eric Garner-Michael Brown demonstrations for weeks now boils down to this:

There is blood on many hands this morning.

Yes, First Amendment. Yes, redress of grievances. Yes, peaceful protests — even as clogged bridges and mobbed boulevards created, however temporarily, very real peril for tens of thousands of New Yorkers every night for a week.

The free-speech trope is so obviously true that it’s a deflection even to raise it.

Here’s the real issue: It was, and it remains, the responsibility of protest organizers — such as they may be in the face of ubiquitous social media — to directly address murderous incantations, to unequivocally condemn those who call down harm on the city’s protectors.

And they didn’t do that.

Moreover, when two of the six people who “allegedly” attacked two cops on the Brooklyn Bridge a week ago Saturday night turn out to be, respectively, a CUNY professor and an organizer for a union that placed five one-time senior union leaders in top de Blasio ­administration posts, it’s clear that New York isn’t dealing with bearded Bolsheviks living in caves.

Violence against cops has gone mainstream — that is, violent threats to society itself can manifest virtually without a soul among the city’s elected leaders saying so much as boo.

Pitiful.

The cops understand all this, of course. They get the threat. They are steeped in the department’s institutional memories of other cops, executed from ambush in similar circumstances. They know its tradition of reflexive heroism under deadly threat — and they are proud it its record: Not perfect, of course, but better than anyone else’s.

And now this.

Who would have thought that PBA President Pat Lynch’s don’t-come-to-my-funeral petition would have become so relevant, so prescient, so tragically right to the point.
So quickly.

There will be time to count the political consequences of Saturday’s cowardly murders.

They will be substantial.

The city’s cut-the-baby-in-half approach to the Garner-Brown protests — genuflect to the PBA, confer with the most rhetorically irresponsible of the protesting groups, rinse, repeat — lent an air of moral equivalence to the events leading up to Saturday’s savagery.

Nobody knows what was in the shooter’s mind, of course; happily, he relieved society of the ­responsibility of trying to find out with a well-placed bullet to his own head.

But anybody who thinks he wasn’t emboldened by City Hall’s placidity in the face of nihilistic, bloodthirsty incantations is delusional.

And anyone who believes that the city’s decision not to draw a high-profile line — even if only symbolically — after the ­“alleged” Brooklyn Bridge attacks was not empowering to the shooter is equally wrong.

Was the shooter crazy? Define crazy. The city is full of crazies. And none of them needs to be ­encouraged in their psychoses — certainly not by the suggestion that official New York thinks they somehow may have a point.

It’s wrong to blame the protests wholly for the actions of one person — up to a point.

That is, right up to the point when the protesters began to ­demand dead cops — and nobody put a stop to it.

Right up to the point where protesters began to drop full garbage cans 10 feet down on unsuspecting cops, and nobody took it for what it was: An escalation that culminated in yesterday’s Bed-Stuy executions.

And now for the funerals — for the heartbreaking skirl of the pipes and the agony of the families; for the grim-faced officers from across America, lined to the horizon in silent tribute to ambushed brothers; for the folded flags and the endless motorcades to the cemetery.

You wanted dead cops, protesters? You got ’em.

Now live with it. If you can.

http://nypost.com/2014/12/21/there-is-blood-on-hands-of-those-who-demanded-dead-cops/

not according to skippy but he knows everything and for some unknown reason hates cops

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Re: 2 cops executed in NYC
« Reply #136 on: December 22, 2014, 12:47:34 PM »

Oh please, vets deal with it every freaking day.

Every time some policy, statement, or whatever comes down that some fanatic doesn't like they're in danger.

At no time has Deblasio, Obama, Holder or anybody else even suggested that murdering a cop was acceptable.

They've said racism is an issue in policing and this nation.  BFD.

It wouldn't be acceptable behavior for anyone else doing it, it's not acceptable behavior from these cops.



where did I say that

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Re: 2 cops executed in NYC
« Reply #137 on: December 22, 2014, 12:49:45 PM »
not according to skippy but he knows everything and for some unknown reason hates cops

He's got every reason in the world to question the cops.

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Re: 2 cops executed in NYC
« Reply #138 on: December 22, 2014, 01:25:20 PM »
not according to skippy but he knows everything and for some unknown reason hates cops




Really?  Here's what I just said to you this morning:




Sincere conviction that murder is an appropriate solution plays into these nutbags mentality.  So the people out chanting that they wanted dead cops may have a played a role, or leaders advocating for murder of cops (political or religious).






Regularly owning your dumb ass might actually be satisfying.....if you weren't so fucking stupid.



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Re: 2 cops executed in NYC
« Reply #139 on: December 22, 2014, 03:29:53 PM »
Cops that neglect their oath and call their own shots are contributing to future crime, and they are endangering the lives of good officers.
really?

I bet you dont feel the same way about criminal blacks and their effects on law abiding ones, do you?

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Re: 2 cops executed in NYC
« Reply #140 on: December 22, 2014, 03:56:33 PM »
really?

Yes.

I bet you dont feel the same way about criminal blacks and their effects on law abiding ones, do you?

Please give more detail.

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Re: 2 cops executed in NYC
« Reply #141 on: December 23, 2014, 07:33:00 AM »
But i thought the protests had nothing to do w what this animal did?

I remember people trying to blame Palin putting up a map with bulls eyes for the Gifford shooting.  Didn't some on this board make that connection too? 

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Re: 2 cops executed in NYC
« Reply #142 on: December 23, 2014, 12:24:09 PM »
Did anybody come across anything about the gun he used? I haven't found anything online, but I heard somebody on the news yesterday when I was halfway listening and not really watching say that the gun he used was supposedly reported stolen 20 years ago and had been under the radar ever since. Most criminals are at least smart enough to steal guns or buy stolen guns on the black market that cannot be traced back to them if they get away with their crimes.
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Re: 2 cops executed in NYC
« Reply #143 on: December 23, 2014, 01:00:18 PM »
Did anybody come across anything about the gun he used? I haven't found anything online, but I heard somebody on the news yesterday when I was halfway listening and not really watching say that the gun he used was supposedly reported stolen 20 years ago and had been under the radar ever since. Most criminals are at least smart enough to steal guns or buy stolen guns on the black market that cannot be traced back to them if they get away with their crimes.

It's not a matter of smart.. most criminals don't buy things like normal people do. They steal them or buy stolen items for pennies on the dollar. It's really not a matter of intelligence.. criminals can be the dumbest animals on the planet sometimes.

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Re: 2 cops executed in NYC
« Reply #144 on: December 23, 2014, 03:39:47 PM »
Did anybody come across anything about the gun he used? I haven't found anything online, but I heard somebody on the news yesterday when I was halfway listening and not really watching say that the gun he used was supposedly reported stolen 20 years ago and had been under the radar ever since. Most criminals are at least smart enough to steal guns or buy stolen guns on the black market that cannot be traced back to them if they get away with their crimes.
if he had obtained it illegally we would know about it thats for damn sure

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Re: 2 cops executed in NYC
« Reply #145 on: December 24, 2014, 07:37:11 PM »
Mentally ill= New politically correct term for "black". Also, see "youth", "unidentified assailant" and "ooga booga".

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Re: 2 cops executed in NYC
« Reply #146 on: December 24, 2014, 08:23:50 PM »
Mentally ill= New politically correct term for "black". Also, see "youth", "unidentified assailant" and "ooga booga".

so you're calling 333 and Joe black?

racist post reported

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Re: 2 cops executed in NYC
« Reply #147 on: December 24, 2014, 09:42:44 PM »
But i thought the protests had nothing to do w what this animal did?

I don't think they did, though. 

That's not to say that the next cop killer won't have been influenced by the protests (or DeBlasio) but not this guy, I don't think.

Wasn't there video on the killer's instagram that showed him having a run-in with the cops from a while back?  Pretty sure this guy had been a cop hater for quite a while.


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Re: 2 cops executed in NYC
« Reply #148 on: December 24, 2014, 10:01:09 PM »
I spent some time with Ben Garner, Eric’s father, who is in unspeakable pain,” he said, speaking at Mt. Sinai United Christian Church on Staten Island. “I couldn’t help but immediately think what it would mean to me to lose Dante. Life could never be the same thereafter and I could feel how it will never be whole again.”
 
The mayor said he and his wife Chirlane, who is black, have had to have the same somber talk with Dante warning him about run-ins with cops that many parents of young black men must have with their sons.
 
“Chirlane and I have had to talk to Dante for years about the dangers that he may face – good young man, law abiding young man, never would think to do anything wrong, and yet because of the history that still hangs over us, the dangers he may face. We’ve had to literally train him, as families have all over this city for decades, in how to take special care in any encounter he has with the police officers who are there to protect him,” he said.
 
“I’ve had to worry over the years. Chirlane’s had to worry. Is Dante safe each night? There are so many families in this city who feel that each and every night. Is my child safe?...Are they safe from the very people they want to have faith in as their protectors?”



Fu*k him.. He threw his cops under the bus for the sake of pandering.. I doubt he had that conversation and I doubt he has spent a second worrying that the police are going to hurt his son

Why Fu*k him?  Is what DeBlasio said really that much different from (early October) when NYPD commissioner Bill Bratton showed a video montage of police physically mistreating the public and then saying:

“My intention going forward is to ensure that we will aggressively seek to get those out of the department who should not be here — the brutal, the corrupt, the racist, the incompetent,” Bratton said in a tough talk to police brass."

“The reality is at this moment that there’s some in the organization who shouldn’t be here — not the right fit for the NYPD of 2014."


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Re: 2 cops executed in NYC
« Reply #149 on: December 24, 2014, 10:04:23 PM »
really?

I bet you dont feel the same way about criminal blacks and their effects on law abiding ones, do you?

Why wouldn't he feel that way? 

Of course criminality by blacks has a negative effect on how many regard law-abiding blacks.  How could it not?