Vince Basile has a patent for his biceps machine.

[avxo]

I went to ITT, then worked at Ikon as a systems engineer

In other words, you went to the drive-thru of shitty education, asked for fries and then became a gofer for a low-level sysadmin working at a septic tank drainage company. Your qualifications clinched you the job - what with you being full of shit. Luckily you discovered Bitcoin and became a wealthy tycoon with a trailer, television and sometimes even food! What a life!

[Man of Steel]

The best equipment for biceps are dbs.  Then cables.   Then 1 or 2 machines I've used were alright. 

Good ole fashioned free weights are best for growin arms.

IMHO

[Vince B]

The best equipment for biceps are dbs.  Then cables.   Then 1 or 2 machines I've used were alright. 

Good ole fashioned free weights are best for growin arms.

IMHO

Have you used my machine? NO. Then how on earth can you compare it with simple dumbbells?

Dumbbells, if engaging the supinators can be effective. For triceps, machines have an even greater

effectiveness and advantage.

[Skeletor]

The best equipment for biceps are dbs.  Then cables.   Then 1 or 2 machines I've used were alright. 

Good ole fashioned free weights are best for growin arms.

IMHO

No barbells?

[disco_stu]

impressive isnt over engineering

all good engineering is simple

well done him for getting the patent

but the machine has never been sold and never will

it basically replicates a dumbell with 30000 moving parts

rubbish.

if thi8s machine does it, it could be set so that at any position in the movement, the weight elicits maximum tension in the muscle.

a dumbell cannot do that. a dumbell moves in an arc which means that its force at the pivot, near where the biceps attaches, varies greatly.

but, in addition, the tension on the muscle varies greatly due to the arc itself.

so a machine that removes any overly difficult parts of the arc, which are preventing the user from moving the resistance to an angle where there is better mechanical leverage, is a good thing. its essentially like having a cheat portion, but without cheating.

that means the effort you put into the cheat, can be used directly by the muscle.

basically this is how a cable with an adjustable cam on it would work. pretty useless in a public gym where every person has different length levers and insertions.

would be very good for professional athletes who want to nail the specific biomechanics for their own body.

[Vince B]

I doubt there are many on Getbig who have patented any new device.

What usually happens when you invent something is you build a prototype. Then you try it out and then change things

on the next prototype. After several of these cycles of testing, designing and changing you get closer to a good mechanism.

I have simplified the machine and it is now user friendly. Even some of the dumbbells here could operate it without instructions.

[Kim Jong Bob]

I doubt there are many on Getbig who have patented any new device.

What usually happens when you invent something is you build a prototype. Then you try it out and then change things

on the next prototype. After several of these cycles of testing, designing and changing you get closer to a good mechanism.

I have simplified the machine and it is now user friendly. Even some of the dumbbells here could operate it without instructions.

for a novice that no nothing a out engineering stuff that is quite an impressive build. Have you designed or mod other training equipment?

[FitnessFrenzy]

Have you used my machine? NO. Then how on earth can you compare it with simple dumbbells?

Dumbbells, if engaging the supinators can be effective. For triceps, machines have an even greater

effectiveness and advantage.

would like to try your machine. It is always nice to try a new gym machine even though I prefer free weights. 

[Lord Chronos]

I doubt there are many on Getbig who have patented any new device.

What usually happens when you invent something is you build a prototype. Then you try it out and then change things

on the next prototype. After several of these cycles of testing, designing and changing you get closer to a good mechanism.

I have simplified the machine and it is now user friendly. Even some of the dumbbells here could operate it without instructions.

Hats off to you for your patent. As you say its more than other people have done. I take it the purpose is to maintain continuous tension throughout the movement, whilst also allowing a natural range of motion, as oppose to being on a fixed plane of movement.

Sadly mainstream gym chains no longer want this kind of equipment. Look at the likes of Nautilus who seem to have given up and just gone to making bikes and ellipticals, there is no money in high performance weights machines. You only see these kind of fancy machines in universities and Athletic institutes otherwise every gym seems to just go with standard Life Fitness stuff.

[Vince B]

would like to try your machine. It is always nice to try a new gym machine even though I prefer free weights. 

Arthur Jones started publishing material about his Nautilus Machines around 1969. Ironman Magazine later had articles/ads by Jones that took up many pages.

Arthur talked about dynamic variable resistance and all manner of new engineering features that made his machines 'superior' to other machines and free

weights. When it came to a biceps machine he knew that even Nautilus machines allowed resistance in only one degree of freedom, namely flexion.

There was no way to combine flexion with the twisting or supinating that part of the biceps does. I was inspired by what he said so it was always a dream

of mine to design and build good gym equipment. When I started making gym equipment seriously in 1975 I came up with unique designs for leg extension

machines that featured adjustable leg length plus adjustable back support. Sounds silly to say this now but equipment was rather simple in those days.

Companies like Paramount and Universal were making equipment for schools, universities and gyms.

I started building gym equipment in a workshop in 1981. I believe I was the first person to put linear motion bearings in a Smith Machine and leg presses.

Now everyone does that. It solved the friction problem that caused early machines to stick. The early Smith machines had chains and sprockets that linked the sides together.

The linear bearings eliminated the need for those linking chains. I didn't think what I did was a big deal so I set out to design and build equipment for

other gyms to start with to generate some cash to stay in business. I came up with original designs for heaps of gym equipment. Some of the machines

I built in the late 80s are still some of the best made machines ever installed in any gym. They are still working fine today and will continue to do so

indefinitely. About 1987 when Ray Mentzer was staying at my place in Sydney I came up with a design for a biceps supinator. A clever guy who shared

the factory with me came up with the first solution but I came up with my own version that was not as wide as his would have been. It wasn't until

1991 that I actually designed the mechanism for the biceps-supinator. This dual mechanism can also be applied to a triceps machine and also an

abdominal machine but I haven't got around to designing them yet. I got a patent attorney to send the application to five countries around the world.

USA, Canada, Great Britain, Germany and Australia. You have to apply to every country you want protection in and there are both initial fees and then

annual fees if a patent is granted. The USA patent was delayed until 1995. More money was spent on those patent attorneys in both Australia and the USA.

I didn't actually build the machine until 2001. I did everything by myself. By that time it was clear that Cybex and Nautilus were not interested in it so

I let the patent lapse. It was costing over $5000 a year just for fees. There was no point if no company was interested. I wasn't interested in making copies

for others, either. So I put the machine in my gym to see how the lads liked it. To my surprise most of the heads didn't use it. Some had to be shown but

they more or less drifted off to continue using dumbbells and the other biceps machines installed in my gym.

With different people using the machine it became clear that changes had to be made. Major alterations had to be made three times over the last 13 years.

The last modification was completed this year and now the machine is much simpler and is so much easier to use. I finally got it right!

I can honestly say that you can get absolutely brutal workouts on the machine. You can do both arms simultaneously or individually. I prefer the latter.

Then you can simultaneously supinate while curling or just do the curling. Even if you don't supinate during the movement there is still additional tension

on the biceps because the resistance via the supination weight stack has to be prevented from unwinding. When I did my first really hard supersetted

arm workout a few months ago I ended up with DOMS in both biceps the following few days. My arms pumped over an inch that workout. That is the

first time in decades that I have had DOMS in the biceps. I have one torn biceps so that limits what I can do with my right biceps.

I haven't approached any company about building the machines yet and the machine is not at my gym. I am still testing it.

I actually talked to Arthur Jones in 1995 on the phone after receiving my USA patent. Smart guy and we had a good chat for over an hour. He died

before I had a chance to go to Florida to meet him.

[Vince B]

Hats off to you for your patent. As you say its more than other people have done. I take it the purpose is to maintain continuous tension throughout the movement, whilst also allowing a natural range of motion, as oppose to being on a fixed plane of movement.

Sadly mainstream gym chains no longer want this kind of equipment. Look at the likes of Nautilus who seem to have given up and just gone to making bikes and ellipticals, there is no money in high performance weights machines. You only see these kind of fancy machines in universities and Athletic institutes otherwise every gym seems to just go with standard Life Fitness stuff.

20 or 30 years ago the gym equipment business was more viable. Since that time there have been amalgamations of companies and also some have disappeared. I am pleased that most of the professional equipment

seems to work okay today. Not so sure about Hammer though because I have three machines in my gym and they all need adjustments to feel better.

The main idea of my biceps-supinator is to have two separate resistances for each function of the biceps. If you put your left hand over your right biceps then do a curl you will feel the biceps contract like it does

when you flex your arms. Keep your right arm bent and then twist the wrist inwardly. That is the supination function of the biceps and my machine had a separate weight stack to provide resistance for the twisting

function. You can add more weight as you progress but since no other machine allows resistance like this the potential to develop bigger biceps is increased. There is no cam on my prototype but it is easy to add

that feature. Not on my machine but on another one that I would design.

I have a design for a running machine that more gyms and clubs would love to have.

[SF1900]

[da_vinci]

Lmao^^


Unrecognized genius... 

[SF1900]

Lmao^^


Unrecognized genius... 

lol.

I must admit that I did not make the photoshop. I requested it from Ironmeister. 

[thebrink]

Too bad dumbells exist...

According to him heavy freeweights are a waste of time and unnecessary. After all,  his biceps destroy Arnolds 

[thegamechanger]

i would say the only exercise you need for direct biceps training would be pulley curls not only does it involve the whole biceps it also provides, unlike db and bb, constant tension to the muscle.

[wes]

i would say the only exercise you need for direct biceps training would be pulley curls not only does it involve the whole biceps it also provides, unlike db and bb, constant tension to the muscle.

[thegamechanger]

just stating facts here based on science.

[The Abdominal Snoman]

Basile's first Glute/bicep/rocket prototype demonstration

[The Abdominal Snoman]

Basile's 2nd prototype Moon rocket/bicep machine

[Hulkotron]

Would like to give Basile one of my patented knife-edge chops to the throat.

[_bruce_]

Top notch gif! 

Props to Vince for being inventive and skilled. 

[Teutonic Knight]

Top notch gif! 

Props to Vince for being inventive and skilled. 

Nice roasted pork for Boxing day lunch 

[SF1900]

Top notch gif! 

Props to Vince for being inventive and skilled. 

i requested the gif, and ironmeister did it for me. 

[Vince B]

On a forum where a moderator is both gay and respected I wonder why some gimmicks keep trying to paint known individuals as being gay? Are people who do this high school pranksters, because

that kind of behaviour is rather pathetic and childish.

Back in 1970 I trained at Western Gym on Hastings Street in Vancouver. It was a primitive gym in a dark basement of a 'sports' club upstairs. Big Jim Forsythe was the manager then and he sure

was a funny guy. We used to go to the Ukrainian restaurant down the street to have meals. While waiting for our order we often tested our strength at arm wrestling. A month before the contest

I was 210 pounds and quite strong and had no trouble beating Jim over the table. We both entered the competition at the Mr Canada contest and I weighed only 190 pounds. There weren't many

entered and I was unlucky to meet the son of the inventor of an arm wrestling machine who really tested me and we had a very long, draining match that I eventually won. As it turned out

Jim and I were in the finals. We sat opposite on a small portable table and it was a stalemate when the referee let go of our joined hands. Big Jim had more mass and managed to get his leg around

the end of the table to give himself more leverage. People yelled out in the audience but the judge didn't notice anything and I ended up losing the match.

I didn't mind because I won plenty of trophies that night and Jim was a mate and I was happy for him. He would be the target of everyone in BC wanting to see if they could beat him!

When we caught up with each other in 2004 after 34 years it was fun reminiscing about the match. He had a copy of a photo taken of us and had it framed. So, naturally, I had to have the photo

you see here taken. I asked him about why he didn't hear people complaining about his 'cheating' during the match. He explained that he is hard of hearing in his right ear. I pointed out that it was

his left ear that was facing the audience!

Jim doesn't deserve to have his triumph demeaned by having his photo replaced by someone who wasn't there. So here is the original photo.