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Jesus is The Sun of God.
« on: December 27, 2014, 04:15:53 AM »
The cross is a pagan symbol.

Christianity is also a religion that borrows off of many older ones.


The use of the cross as a religious symbol in pre-Christian times, and among non-Christian peoples, may probably be regarded as almost universal, and in very many cases it was connected with some form of nature worship."
(The Encyclopedia Britannica, 11th edition, 1910, volume 7, page 506)





When the Council of Nicea took place, the Emperor Constantine


-       Declared the Roman Sun-day to be the Christian Sabbath.



-       Adopted the traditional birthday of the Sun-god, and the twenty-fifth of December, as the birthday of Jesus;


-       Borrowed the emblem of the Sun-god, the cross of light, to be the emblem of Christianity;


-       And, although the statue of Jesus replaced the idol of the Sun-god, decided to incorporate all the ceremonies which were performed at the Sub-gods birthday celebrations into their own ceremonies.



“The Christian religion is a parody on the worship of the Sun, in which they put a man whom they call Christ, in the place of the Sun, and pay him the same adoration which was originally paid to the Sun.”
- Thomas Paine, The Age of Reason




The scholar Tom Harper states:

“The divine teacher is called, is tested by the “adversary”, gathers disciples, heals the sick, preaches the Good News about God’s kingdom, finally runs afoul of his bitter enemies, suffers, dies, and is resurrected after three days. This is the total pattern of the sun god in all the ancient dramas”. (The Pagan Christ, p. 145)


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Re: Jesus is the son of god.
« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2014, 04:18:04 AM »

Anyone wishing to read more about this, I suggest this website:

http://www.answering-christianity.com/abdullah_smith/cross_pagan_origins.htm

It's very informative.

It's always good to keep an open mind. I find the sun god theory very believable, when it comes to explaining the origins of christianity.

The basic outlines were used by many cultures and have evolved different characteristics over time and cultural backgrounds.

This concept seems so clear to me.

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Re: Jesus is the sun of god.
« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2014, 04:21:14 AM »
I thought you quit drinking!   :D

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Re: Jesus is the sun of god.
« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2014, 04:25:15 AM »
I thought you quit drinking!   :D
Read the link if you want.  I have always had an interest in religion (without being religious) and I find this hard to ignore.

I am not saying what to believe in, or that this unlocks the secret to anything.

I just find this theory far more plausible than anything in the bible actually happening.

I believe Christianity is a rehash at its core.

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Re: Jesus is the sun of god.
« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2014, 04:39:21 AM »
Nothing new under The Sun.

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Re: Jesus is the sun of god.
« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2014, 04:47:21 AM »
Nothing new under The Sun.
:D 

I would really like to get some Christian views on this.

I hope it's not just "The I have faith" canned response.


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Re: Jesus is the sun of god.
« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2014, 04:50:34 AM »
The scholar Timothy Freke says:

 The Vatican was constructed upon the site of an ancient Pagan sanctuary because the new is always built upon the old. In the same way Christianity itself has as its foundations the Pagan spirituality that preceded it. (ibid, p. 12)


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Re: Jesus is the sun of god.
« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2014, 04:52:43 AM »
WYHI?




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Re: Jesus is the sun of god.
« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2014, 04:55:09 AM »
WYHI?




He has skipped many a leg day. Would not hit. Also wearing heals, clearly a schmoe.

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Re: Jesus is the sun of god.
« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2014, 05:00:57 AM »
He has skipped many a leg day. Would not hit. Also wearing heals, clearly a schmoe.
You sun of a bitch you!  :D

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Re: Jesus is the sun of god.
« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2014, 05:04:23 AM »
You sun of a bitch you!  :D
Lets meet up tomorrow. Sun-day  :-*

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Re: Jesus is the sun of god.
« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2014, 05:15:10 AM »
People who are referred to as 'scholars' usually have no academic backgrounds.

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Re: Jesus is the sun of god.
« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2014, 05:15:46 AM »
"That which is now called the Christian cross was originally no Christian emblem at all, but was the mystic Tau of the Chaldeans and Egyptians -- the true original form of the letter T -- the initial of the name of Tammuz [...] That mystic Tau was marked in baptism on the foreheads of those initiated in the Mysteries, and was used in every variety of way as a most sacred symbol. [...] The Vestal virgins of Pagan Rome wore it suspended from their necklaces, as the nuns do now. The Egyptians did the same [...] There is hardly a Pagan tribe where the cross has not been found. The cross was worshipped by the Pagan Celts long before the incarnation and death of Christ."

"The ancient Egyptian hieroglyphic symbol of life -- the ankh, a tau cross surmounted by a loop and known as crux ansata -- was adopted and extensively used on Coptic Christian monuments." (The New Encyclopedia Britannica, 15th edition, 1995, volume 3, page 753)


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Re: Jesus is the sun of god.
« Reply #13 on: December 27, 2014, 05:16:32 AM »
The truth can be found here, evilbible.com

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Re: Jesus is the sun of god.
« Reply #14 on: December 27, 2014, 05:17:38 AM »
People who are referred to as 'scholars' usually have no academic backgrounds.
And what is your take on this theory Dr. Chimps?

I think it all makes perfect sense, but that is coming from a fat alcoholic, who faked his own death.

I'd call that a seal of approval  ;D

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Re: Jesus is the sun of god.
« Reply #15 on: December 27, 2014, 05:39:00 AM »
Shizzo returned from the dead so we hail the new Messiah!

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Re: Jesus is the sun of god.
« Reply #16 on: December 27, 2014, 05:42:36 AM »
Shizzo returned from the dead so we hail the new Messiah!

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Re: Jesus is the sun of god.
« Reply #17 on: December 27, 2014, 05:42:47 AM »
And what is your take on this theory Dr. Chimps?

I think it all makes perfect sense, but that is coming from a fat alcoholic, who faked his own death.

I'd call that a seal of approval  ;D
Religions are complicated fairy tales. But narratives like, like religion, are one of the ways humans try to make 'sense' of our existence.

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Re: Jesus is the sun of god.
« Reply #18 on: December 27, 2014, 05:46:46 AM »
Religions are complicated fairy tales. But narratives like, like religion, are one of the ways humans try to make 'sense' of our existence.
I agree of course, but I feel that this is the easiest way for people to see how Christianity probably originated.

Did you read the link? I find it both logical and comprehensive.

I would love for Man of Steel to read the link, and give us his thoughts.

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Re: Jesus is the sun of god.
« Reply #19 on: December 27, 2014, 05:48:39 AM »
Son

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Re: Jesus is the sun of god.
« Reply #20 on: December 27, 2014, 05:56:10 AM »
Son
Not sure if serious..... :D

You do know that there is a point to the title of the thread right?

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Re: Jesus is the sun of god.
« Reply #21 on: December 27, 2014, 05:58:31 AM »
Horus=Rising Sun, Ra=Noon Sun, Osiris=setting sun. Since Osiris is the god of the dead. Him representing the setting sun, means he is representing the sun dying.

Amon-Ra=Amon is the creator. And Ra is an older sun God. Combine the two and it's Supreme Creator Sun God.


In Egypt it was Amenhotep IV who decided to not worship the Gods of old and create a monotheistic religion of worshipping the sun, represented by a  sun disc and called aten.
The odd thing about Amenhotep IV, is that he is depicted as a long faced, and wide hipped male. Whose waist is small, with a small gut, and rounded feminine hips that are wider than his shoulders

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Re: Jesus is the sun of god.
« Reply #22 on: December 27, 2014, 06:07:34 AM »
Horus=Rising Sun, Ra=Noon Sun, Osiris=setting sun. Since Osiris is the god of the dead. Him representing the setting sun, means he is representing the sun dying.

Amon-Ra=Amon is the creator. And Ra is an older sun God. Combine the two and it's Supreme Creator Sun God.


In Egypt it was Amenhotep IV who decided to not worship the Gods of old and create a monotheistic religion of worshipping the sun, represented by a  sun disc and called aten.
The odd thing about Amenhotep IV, is that he is depicted as a long faced, and wide hipped male. Whose waist is small, with a small gut, and rounded feminine hips that are wider than his shoulders
With the birth of man came wonder. Nothing has changed (except the stories) since then.

Every single ethnicity of homosapiens from the dawn of time, has had their stories, traditions, and gods.

How can Christianity and Islam claim to be the absolute then?

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Re: Jesus is the sun of god.
« Reply #23 on: December 27, 2014, 06:10:34 AM »
With the birth of man came wonder. Nothing has changed (except the stories) since then.

Every single ethnicity of homosapiens from the dawn of time, has had their stories, traditions, and gods.

How can Christianity and Judaism and Islam claim to be the absolute then?
Fixed...
All claim to have the "way"...and any all religions after that claim to have "the way". It is the way of humans. Either you follow my way or you are against my way.

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Re: Jesus is the sun of god.
« Reply #24 on: December 27, 2014, 06:19:27 AM »
Fixed...
All claim to have the "way"...and any all religions after that claim to have "the way". It is the way of humans. Either you follow my way or you are against my way.
Multiple "ways" cancel every way by default, in my opinion.

People born on a isolated island would have no concept of our gods.  They would create their own.

The only universal human trait is the fear of oblivion.