Concealed carry questions (aj)

[Archer77]

I'm not sure you understand.

One strategy for surviving a gun battle is appearing to be submissive, scared, and cooperative to the bad guy - THEN pulling your weapon once his guard is down a bit more.

Many people that survive robberies - when the gun is initially ON THEM - will appear to surrender/agree, then as the bad guy uses hands/eyes to secure keys, $, etc - THEN they draw their weapon.   One never knows when the bad guy plans to shoot you after your cooperation to avoid witnesses, or just because he's a prick.

Archer77, I pray I'm never in a gun battle.  We never know how we'll react.  But using a strategy of appearing to first be cooperative can greatly improve chances for survival.   I'm not sure you understood my initial response here.

You said how you would react.  The likely scenario is you end up dead and someone has your gun.  Don't carry a weapon in public if you are going to freeze up. There is no point and you're endangering others.

[240 is Back]

You said how you would react.

Correct.  That is exactly how I'd react.  Tears and begging initially.

I'm not sure you're understanding my post, but okay. 

[Archer77]

Correct.  That is exactly how I'd react.  Tears and begging initially.

I'm not sure you're understanding my post, but okay.  

Why carry a weapon in public?  What would be the purpose of carrying a gun when you are incapable of using it?  Does it make you feel better?  More protected?  

[Bernie King]

I am LMFAO at the pussies in this thread. Kiddies, that's exactly why I told you to go learn from Vietnam Vet Bobbie Taylor.

[Bernie King]

Why carry a weapon in public?  What would be the purpose of carry a gun when you are incapable of using it?  Does it make you feel better?  More protected? 

TROLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL OLOLOLOL.

[LittleJ]

Correct.  That is exactly how I'd react.  Tears and begging initially.

I'm not sure you're understanding my post, but okay. 

Archer is on drugs. He doesn't understand anything.

[Archer77]

Archer is on drugs. He doesn't understand anything.

You're obsessed with me, littlejenkam.  Are you going to be as obsessed with me as you are with booty?  After booty's rejection you become her whiny stalker. She really got to you. Now run along and cry to Ron.

[240 is Back]

Why carry a weapon in public?  What would be the purpose of carrying a gun when you are incapable of using it?  Does it make you feel better?  More protected? 

[visualizeperfection]

I get what you're saying 240, I would do something very similar. Its actually a part of the magpul training.

[Archer77]

Im asking you a question.  Why carry a weapon in public if you are  incapable of using it?  You'll get someone killed.  That person most likely being you

[Twaddle]

[_aj_]

I get what you're saying 240, I would do something very similar. Its actually a part of the magpul training.

I think that I need to know more about this "sobbing while strapped" plan.

The three times that I have been in a high-stress situation while carrying, my plan was to GTFO and evac asap (once with family). Didn't really stop to think about personal comportment. I am guessing it is more of a "dead to rights" kind of plan. I prefer condition orange to white.

[Brixtonbulldog]

Zimmerman chased a kid 2 blocks to initiate a gun battle.  

i'm surprised that you came to this conclusion.  there is literally no evidence to support this.  the confrontation happened so near the vehicle that martin would have HAD to have followed zim back to his car and then deliberately attacked him, all after zim had stopped following martin. 

[Archer77]

i'm surprised that you came to this conclusion.  there is literally no evidence to support this.  the confrontation happened so near the vehicle that martin would have HAD to have followed zim back to his car and then deliberately attacked him, all after zim had stopped following martin. 

Shit stain is using weasel words.  He's been doing it from the beginning.  The other shit stain Andre does the same thing when he uses the term stalking. 

[visualizeperfection]

I think that I need to know more about this "sobbing while strapped" plan.

The three times that I have been in a high-stress situation while carrying, my plan was to GTFO and evac asap (once with family). Didn't really stop to think about personal comportment. I am guessing it is more of a "dead to rights" kind of plan. I prefer condition orange to white.

Theatricality and deception. Powerful agents.


Would-be robber/murder/black person etc etc would think you are soft and week, no threat to him. He has less a reason to get jumpy and execute.


Training is so important. It has to be 100% muscle memory, thats why I have ONE gun. ONE.

Possibility to lure him closer, where you would be able to RCAT,/

[_aj_]

Theatricality and deception. Powerful agents.


Would-be robber/murder/black person etc etc would think you are soft and week, no threat to him. He has less a reason to get jumpy and execute.


Training is so important. It has to be 100% muscle memory, thats why I have ONE gun. ONE.

Possibility to lure him closer, where you would be able to RCAT,/

Pretty much only train with Glocks, all with 5.5 lb trigger/connector. But I have many, MANY Glocks. All over the fucking country, actually.

[Bernie King]

Theatricality and deception. Powerful agents.


Would-be robber/murder/black person etc etc would think you are soft and week, no threat to him. He has less a reason to get jumpy and execute.


Training is so important. It has to be 100% muscle memory, thats why I have ONE gun. ONE.

Possibility to lure him closer, where you would be able to RCAT,/

Hey turd burger, let old Bobbie Taylor open your blinkered eyes with regard to deception. Little coontheads like you could sure use the education.

[SamoanIrishman]

Good advice here by some... here is my $0.02

Guns are tools. Have different tools for different jobs, hence why I have several sizes of guns and holsters

Train train train

Don't own guns and not own a safe if you have kids....ie - use common sense fucking morons.

Think long and hard if you can take a life. If you cant, please don't carry and get yourself and others killed.

Best advice many wont tell you...

KNOW YOUR LOCAL DEADLY FORCE LAWS better than the police

Have an attorney's number on hand. Even if you are legally legit in killing someone, doesn't mean their family wont try and sue you civilly in court.

[visualizeperfection]

Good advice here by some... here is my $0.02

Guns are tools. Have different tools for different jobs, hence why I have several sizes of guns and holsters

Train train train

Don't own guns and not own a safe if you have kids....ie - use common sense fucking morons.

Think long and hard if you can take a life. If you cant, please don't carry and get yourself and others killed.

Best advice many wont tell you...

KNOW YOUR LOCAL DEADLY FORCE LAWS better than the police

Have an attorney's number on hand. Even if you are legally legit in killing someone, doesn't mean their family wont try and sue you civilly in court.

Great post.


I dont like guns, I am not a gun nut, I am very proficient with my chosen weapon system. I wish we didnt live in an unsure social climate; but it behooves us to prepare for the worst.

I have considered putting together a rifle and other "the shit has hit the fan" preparations. Not sure yet.

 

[SamoanIrishman]

Great post.


I dont like guns, I am not a gun nut, I am very proficient with my chosen weapon system. I wish we didnt live in an unsure social climate; but it behooves us to prepare for the worst.

I have considered putting together a rifle and other "the shit has hit the fan" preparations. Not sure yet.

 

I agree. Been deployed and can honestly look anyone in the eye and say I can and will kill if you make me and sleep fine ...but honestly,  I hate that I have to carry a gun to make my wife and kids feel safe. We go downtown, my kids  remind me of two things... get my gun and wear my seatbelt.  I hate war, violence and wish in a perfect world we could get rid of them all... then I remember how evil man is. No guns... fine, everyone will carry swords... no swords, knives.... no knives sticks. No matter the technology, in these times man is just evil to each other and you have to make a choice to protect yourself and your loved ones or depend on police to get there on time or outstanding luck that nothing will ever happen to you or your loved ones.... which seem to be famous last words.

Humans suck like that I guess.

[Voice of Doom]

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If winter weather I'll carry OWB with a longer heavy coat and full size pistol.

[Bernie King]

I agree. Been deployed and can honestly look anyone in the eye and say I can and will kill if you make me and sleep fine ...but honestly,  I hate that I have to carry a gun to make my wife and kids feel safe. We go downtown, my kids  remind me of two things... get my gun and wear my seatbelt.  I hate war, violence and wish in a perfect world we could get rid of them all... then I remember how evil man is. No guns... fine, everyone will carry swords... no swords, knives.... no knives sticks. No matter the technology, in these times man is just evil to each other and you have to make a choice to protect yourself and your loved ones or depend on police to get there on time or outstanding luck that nothing will ever happen to you or your loved ones.... which seem to be famous last words.

Humans suck like that I guess.

You have no clue, have you? The statistics show that countless victims were shot with their own weapon. Most attacks happen in close quarters, which means there's a high chance you aren't going to be able to get an accurate shot off in time. Even if you do manage to hit the attacker, unless you are fortunate enough to hit the brain or the heart, the perp won't necessarily go down immediately. Those few seconds could easily see him getting HIS weapon out and filling YOU with lead or stabbing/bludgeoning you to death, especially if he is a big guy.

[visualizeperfection]

You have no clue, have you? The statistics show that countless victims were shot with their own weapon. Most attacks happen in close quarters, which means there's a high chance you aren't going to be able to get an accurate shot off in time. Even if you do manage to hit the attacker, unless you are fortunate enough to hit the brain or the heart, the perp won't necessarily go down immediately. Those few seconds could easily see him getting HIS weapon out and filling YOU with lead or stabbing/bludgeoning you to death, especially if he is a big guy.

Teach us your secrets, combat veteran.

[LittleJ]

I agree. Been deployed and can honestly look anyone in the eye and say I can and will kill if you make me and sleep fine ...but honestly,  I hate that I have to carry a gun to make my wife and kids feel safe. We go downtown, my kids  remind me of two things... get my gun and wear my seatbelt.  I hate war, violence and wish in a perfect world we could get rid of them all... then I remember how evil man is. No guns... fine, everyone will carry swords... no swords, knives.... no knives sticks. No matter the technology, in these times man is just evil to each other and you have to make a choice to protect yourself and your loved ones or depend on police to get there on time or outstanding luck that nothing will ever happen to you or your loved ones.... which seem to be famous last words.

Humans suck like that I guess.

Move to Japan.

No crime. ...

[calfzilla]

I would be very uncomfortable shooting anyone outside of my own home.