Why old school bodybuilders had nicer physiques than today

[El Diablo Blanco]

Back in the 60's-80's it was fine to do exercises like behind the neck shoulder presses, upright rows, squats, deadlifts, bent over rows, flat and incline barbell bench and behind the neck pullddowns.

In the 90's the lazy mentality came out and called all of these exercises as dangerous and lifters stopped doing them.  They resorted to ideas of just dumbell presses, leg press machines, row machines and hammer strength equipment.  The guys in the old days had what seemed to be very dense muslcular phyisques where today they look more blown up than chiselled.  Guys like Coleman and Dorian were a hybrid of the old school training vs. New School so they had that solid dense look but also that blown up look mixed in.  Then guys like Flex, Jay, Heath etc... have that blown up smooth muscle look and not that dense striated look.

Sure you can blame insulin and GH but today's lazy lifters have forgotten about the exercies that would make them solid and not bloofy fucks.

[Option D]

Back in the 60's-80's it was fine to do exercises like behind the neck shoulder presses, upright rows, squats, deadlifts, bent over rows, flat and incline barbell bench and behind the neck pullddowns.

In the 90's the lazy mentality came out and call all of these exercises as dangerous and lifters stopped doing them.  They resorted to ideas of just dumbell presses, leg press machines, row machines and hammer strength equipment.  The guys in the old days had what seemed to be very dense muslcular phyisques where today they look more blown up than chiselled.  Guys like Coleman and Dorian were a hybrid of the old school training vs. New School so they had that solid dense look but also that blown up look mixed in.  Then guys like Flex, Jay, Heath etc... have that blown up smooth muscle look and not that dense striated look.

Sure you can blame insulin and GH but today's lazy lifters have forgotten about the exercies that would make them solid and not bloofy fucks.

lmao if you say it out loud it sounds funny

[njflex]

Back in the 60's-80's it was fine to do exercises like behind the neck shoulder presses, upright rows, squats, deadlifts, bent over rows, flat and incline barbell bench and behind the neck pullddowns.

In the 90's the lazy mentality came out and call all of these exercises as dangerous and lifters stopped doing them.  They resorted to ideas of just dumbell presses, leg press machines, row machines and hammer strength equipment.  The guys in the old days had what seemed to be very dense muslcular phyisques where today they look more blown up than chiselled.  Guys like Coleman and Dorian were a hybrid of the old school training vs. New School so they had that solid dense look but also that blown up look mixed in.  Then guys like Flex, Jay, Heath etc... have that blown up smooth muscle look and not that dense striated look.

Sure you can blame insulin and GH but today's lazy lifters have forgotten about the exercies that would make them solid and not bloofy fucks.

GOOD POST...

[TheShape.]

I believe the bottom line is that these guys are lazy and are not interested in building a golden age physique, they just want to be the biggest meatball there is, no matter the cost to their life or organs. Which can be classified as mental illness. It is no longer an art form but a freak show.

[Donny]

I think when you look at a Reg Park MR Britain 1949 as far as i know his first win (correct me if i´m wrong Local Hero) then he had very dense muscle and with very basic but hard training. I do think though that some exercises like press behind the neck do cause harm for some. depends as Gironda put it.. "one mans meat is another mans poison"

[MAXX]

less and different roids

only reason for difference in physiques

[SF1900]

look at this horrible workout. everything is half reps and he calls it "constant tension"  

[Parker]

Back in the 60's-80's it was fine to do exercises like behind the neck shoulder presses, upright rows, squats, deadlifts, bent over rows, flat and incline barbell bench and behind the neck pullddowns.

In the 90's the lazy mentality came out and called all of these exercises as dangerous and lifters stopped doing them.  They resorted to ideas of just dumbell presses, leg press machines, row machines and hammer strength equipment.  The guys in the old days had what seemed to be very dense muslcular phyisques where today they look more blown up than chiselled.  Guys like Coleman and Dorian were a hybrid of the old school training vs. New School so they had that solid dense look but also that blown up look mixed in.  Then guys like Flex, Jay, Heath etc... have that blown up smooth muscle look and not that dense striated look.

Sure you can blame insulin and GH but today's lazy lifters have forgotten about the exercies that would make them solid and not bloofy fucks.

Go to 9:21, Flex Wheeler doing barbell behind the neck presses. And Cormier was known for doing heavy behind the neck presses, so was Levrone. Shawn, Flex, Dorian, Levrone, Cormier, Nasser, Dillett, Ronnie, were the last of the old school bodybuilders, but yes were a hybrid of old school and new school as well.

[local hero]

I think when you look at a Reg Park MR Britain 1949 as far as i know his first win (correct me if i´m wrong Local Hero) then he had very dense muscle and with very basic but hard training. I do think though that some exercises like press behind the neck do cause harm for some. depends as Gironda put it.. "one mans meat is another mans poison"

I'm not sure about his 1st win, I do know that he was incredibly strong with a 500lb bench... The early bodybuilders are guys who couldn't fall back on lack of genetics by upping the dose or addung size with synthol

They either trained harder or realised they weren't cut out to be a bodybuilder in the 1st place,sadly now guys are killing them selves to look even slightly muscular, where as in parks era that wouldn't have been possible

[DroppingPlates]

look at this horrible workout. everything is half reps and he calls it "constant tension"  

His look on stage is what matters, not the way he lifts

[_aj_]

Phew. I am glad that we are FINALLY having this discussion. It's been a long time coming.

[musclecenter]

Back in the 60's-80's it was fine to do exercises like behind the neck shoulder presses, upright rows, squats, deadlifts, bent over rows, flat and incline barbell bench and behind the neck pullddowns.

In the 90's the lazy mentality came out and called all of these exercises as dangerous and lifters stopped doing them.  They resorted to ideas of just dumbell presses, leg press machines, row machines and hammer strength equipment.  The guys in the old days had what seemed to be very dense muslcular phyisques where today they look more blown up than chiselled.  Guys like Coleman and Dorian were a hybrid of the old school training vs. New School so they had that solid dense look but also that blown up look mixed in.  Then guys like Flex, Jay, Heath etc... have that blown up smooth muscle look and not that dense striated look.

Sure you can blame insulin and GH but today's lazy lifters have forgotten about the exercies that would make them solid and not bloofy fucks.

x2

[local hero]

x2

To be fair alot of movements are pretty dodgy, behind the neck exersizes are hard on shoulder joints, upright rows can be hard wearing, flat benchpresses have ruined many shoulders too..not everybody is built to do every movement, its good to mix and match to suit your self

[SF1900]

His look on stage is what matters, not the way he lifts

Yeah, too bad he is slamming a shit ton of gear. No matter how he looks, its still a pathetic excuse for a workout. Arnold would never be caught dead training that badly. Or any guy from the early 2000's or earlier.

Of course its easy to say, "its the way he looks," but maybe if he trained harder and the right way, he wouldn't have to destroy his body to the extent that he is. Drugs are totally carrying him. Sad. Of course drugs carry all bodybuilders, but you can definitely tell a difference in physique wise by those who train right. And its not like he is placing that high either. If he was winning every contest he competed in, then it may matter. But hes not.

[oldtimer1]

look at this horrible workout. everything is half reps and he calls it "constant tension"  

That is so pathetic. No wonder athletes laugh at bodybuilders. He isn't even working hard and he is doing such a small range of motion.

[SF1900]

That is so pathetic. No wonder athletes laugh at bodybuilders. He isn't even working hard and he is doing such a small range of motion.

whats even worse is that he is out of breath lol

[Skylge]

Yeah, too bad he is slamming a shit ton of gear. No matter how he looks, its still a pathetic excuse for a workout. Arnold would never be caught dead training that badly. Or any guy from the early 2000's or earlier.

Of course its easy to say, "its the way he looks," but maybe if he trained harder and the right way, he wouldn't have to destroy his body to the extent that he is. Drugs are totally carrying him. Sad. Of course drugs carry all bodybuilders, but you can definitely tell a difference in physique wise by those who train right. And its not like he is placing that high either. If he was winning every contest he competed in, then it may matter. But hes not.

Bertil Fox didn't train "right" but he looked right.....

[Howard]

Back in the 60's-80's it was fine to do exercises like behind the neck shoulder presses, upright rows, squats, deadlifts, bent over rows, flat and incline barbell bench and behind the neck pullddowns.

In the 90's the lazy mentality came out and called all of these exercises as dangerous and lifters stopped doing them.  They resorted to ideas of just dumbell presses, leg press machines, row machines and hammer strength equipment.  The guys in the old days had what seemed to be very dense muslcular phyisques where today they look more blown up than chiselled.  Guys like Coleman and Dorian were a hybrid of the old school training vs. New School so they had that solid dense look but also that blown up look mixed in.  Then guys like Flex, Jay, Heath etc... have that blown up smooth muscle look and not that dense striated look.

Sure you can blame insulin and GH but today's lazy lifters have forgotten about the exercies that would make them solid and not bloofy fucks.

The bigger guys get in terms of size/body wt the less fine detail they have.
If you compete at a much bigger body wt, you won't have the same sharp lines.

It has nothing to do with machines vs free wts and EVERYTHING to do with trying to compete at a heavier wt.

[Tennisballz]

look at this horrible workout. everything is half reps and he calls it "constant tension"  

that is just awful.  There are very few pros out there that make normal workout videos anymore.  It's guys like branch who bounce crazy weights all over the place or guys like this who do weird looking half reps.  If you were new to working out it would be confusing as all hell.

[El Diablo Blanco]

To be fair alot of movements are pretty dodgy, behind the neck exersizes are hard on shoulder joints, upright rows can be hard wearing, flat benchpresses have ruined many shoulders too..not everybody is built to do every movement, its good to mix and match to suit your self

Drinking the kool aid I see.

[Tennisballz]

For the most part, it all went to shit in the mid to late 90s.  Almost always, when I see a pic of a top pro when they were younger and lighter I wonder why they didn't just stop there with the size and maintain and work on conditioning.  Nasser in like 90-91 is a perfect example of this. 

[El Diablo Blanco]

For the most part, it all went to shit in the mid to late 90s.  Almost always, when I see a pic of a top pro when they were younger and lighter I wonder why they didn't just stop there with the size and maintain and work on conditioning.  Nasser in like 90-91 is a perfect example of this. 

Even a young Jay or even branch for that matter.  Fuck, even Kamali when young.

[_bruce_]

Phew. I am glad that we are FINALLY having this discussion. It's been a long time coming.

 

[njflex]

LABRADA WAS ONE OF THE FEW BIGGER HE GOT 'RELATIVE FOR HIM'HE MAINTAINED FREAKY CONDITION/SHAPE..HE STAYED TRUE TO HIS LOOK.

[Donny]

To be fair alot of movements are pretty dodgy, behind the neck exersizes are hard on shoulder joints, upright rows can be hard wearing, flat benchpresses have ruined many shoulders too..not everybody is built to do every movement, its good to mix and match to suit your self

Solid Post.