Obama's life before politics

[JOHN MATRIX]

you've provided zero facts

now go ahead and mention Ayers and Wright and then we can look at all the ties that other POTUS's (and candidates) have with terrorists, racist, and various kinds of criminals and unsavory characters

almost everyone has some association with less than perfect people ..... no doubt yourself included

If his vast, lifelong associations with OPENLY ANTI-AMERICAN scum like Ayers (who openly hates america, openly socialist, and took part in domestic terrorist bombings), Wright (who lectured the obamas on anti american, anti white sermons for 20 years), his ties/adoration for louis farrakhan (anti-white black supremacist), his buddy/advisor relationship with Al fucking Sharpton, and plenty of others 'arent a big deal' to you, then im not sure what else there is to say.

[Coach is Back!]

If his vast, lifelong associations with OPENLY ANTI-AMERICAN scum like Ayers (who openly hates america, openly socialist, and took part in domestic terrorist bombings), Wright (who lectured the obamas on anti american, anti white sermons for 20 years), his ties/adoration for louis farrakhan (anti-white black supremacist), his buddy/advisor relationship with Al fucking Sharpton, and plenty of others 'arent a big deal' to you, then im not sure what else there is to say.

It doesn't matter. Talking to these people is useless. Despite what has/is happening that is inline with everything posted in the first post. They don't care. They are intellectually bankrupt and moral and ethical losers. If they're adamantly defending this admistration it's a perfect example of their integrity and how they conduct their own lives. You can't reason or work with people like this. These are not good people with good moral standards on here and in real life. They're the enemy of this country.

[Straw Man]

If his vast, lifelong associations with OPENLY ANTI-AMERICAN scum like Ayers (who openly hates america, openly socialist, and took part in domestic terrorist bombings), Wright (who lectured the obamas on anti american, anti white sermons for 20 years), his ties/adoration for louis farrakhan (anti-white black supremacist), his buddy/advisor relationship with Al fucking Sharpton, and plenty of others 'arent a big deal' to you, then im not sure what else there is to say.

yet another post bereft of any actual fact

Obama has been in office for 6 years now

can't you dipshits find some actual relevant and timely facts to get upset about

[JOHN MATRIX]

yet another post bereft of any actual fact

Obama has been in office for 6 years now

can't you dipshits find some actual relevant and timely facts to get upset about

these facts are relevant because these ideologies greatly influence obama's actions as president of the united states.

obama's been in office 6 years now, and its old news? i guess this means you will stop bringing up Bush then 

[Coach is Back!]

yet another post bereft of any actual fact

Obama has been in office for 6 years now

can't you dipshits find some actual relevant and timely facts to get upset about

Blind as the day Is long. You're trolling.

[240 is Back]

Obama's grandfather matters.   But you dont know your history, do you Coach? 

[Straw Man]

Blind as the day Is long. You're trolling.

pointing out that who gives a shit what his grandfather may or may not have believed it trolling

I'm sure if we looked into your past we'd find that your grandparents believed some weird shit too

given your years around southern California bodybuilding I'm sure you've associated with your share of criminals and various kind of deviant and depraved people

Don't you work with children?  Does the school you work at know about your past associations?

[JOHN MATRIX]

Grasping-at-Strawsman really digging deep here to protect/deflect/downplay/apologize for Obama's past 

[Straw Man]

Grasping-at-Strawsman really digging deep here to protect/deflect/downplay/apologize for Obama's past 

protect what exactly....?

there is plenty of actual timely and relevant facts about Obama for you and your cadre of morons to cry about

who gives a shit what his grandfather or father thought

who gives a shit what your father or my father thinks

[LurkerNoMore]

protect what exactly....?

there is plenty of actual timely and relevant facts about Obama for you and your cadre of morons to cry about

who gives a shit what his grandfather or father thought

who gives a shit what your father or my father thinks

Disconnection from reality and suspension of common sense helps.

[JOHN MATRIX]

protect what exactly....?

there is plenty of actual timely and relevant facts about Obama for you and your cadre of morons to cry about

who gives a shit what his grandfather or father thought

who gives a shit what your father or my father thinks

i never once brought up his grandfather.

 i refer only to his own personal connections and associations made and maintained completely of his own free will, which you completely ignore.

[headhuntersix]

pointing out that who gives a shit what his grandfather may or may not have believed it trolling

I'm sure if we looked into your past we'd find that your grandparents believed some weird shit too

given your years around southern California bodybuilding I'm sure you've associated with your share of criminals and various kind of deviant and depraved people

Don't you work with children?  Does the school you work at know about your past associations?

Joe runs a gym....Obama runs the country. You don't think any of this shit didn't rub off. This isn't like his parents were Union Dems and always voted the party line and went to church on Sunday. He was surrounded by commies, self loathing whites and domestic terrorists...yet non of it matters? The country has just done so well under him hasn't it. Jesus Christ you people voted for this guy and the world is in flames because of it.

[Soul Crusher]

protect what exactly....?

there is plenty of actual timely and relevant facts about Obama for you and your cadre of morons to cry about

who gives a shit what his grandfather or father thought

who gives a shit what your father or my father thinks

So it was the Tranny who raised O-fag who had the biggest influence on him?

[240 is Back]

i never once brought up his grandfather.

COACH did.

[Straw Man]

So it was the Tranny who raised O-fag who had the biggest influence on him?

great point

I guess we need to blame your parents and grandparents for you being a self loathing closet case

[Coach is Back!]

Joe runs a gym....Obama runs the country. You don't think any of this shit didn't rub off. This isn't like his parents were Union Dems and always voted the party line and went to church on Sunday. He was surrounded by commies, self loathing whites and domestic terrorists...yet non of it matters? The country has just done so well under him hasn't it. Jesus Christ you people voted for this guy and the world is in flames because of it.

There has to be a better term for this.

[240 is Back]

There has to be a better term for this.

coach, are grandfathers relevant?  You posted that obama's granddaddy was a communist.  Does that matter?

[Soul Crusher]

great point

I guess we need to blame your parents and grandparents for you being a self loathing closet case

Let's keep this about obama and his tranny keeper ok?

[Straw Man]

Let's keep this about obama and his tranny keeper ok?

something turned you into a self loathing closet case
I'm just exploring the premise that the beliefs of ancestors (even ones you didnt really know) must have had some influence on you

[Straw Man]

these facts are relevant because these ideologies greatly influence obama's actions as president of the united states.

obama's been in office 6 years now, and its old news? i guess this means you will stop bringing up Bush then 

Talking about Bush and his policies are fine and making comparisons to him and any POTUS is fine too.

If you want an actual comparison to what you and your retarded friend are doing in this thread then we should be talking about how Bush's grandfather had financial dealings with the Nazi's before and briefly during the time our country was at war with Germany.

Now, shouldn't we all discuss how Bush's grandfathers actions and beliefs affected both son and grandson and influenced their actions while POTUS

This is the premise floated in this thread so let's talk about it

[Soul Crusher]

Difference is that obama adopted all of those communist beliefs

[Straw Man]

Difference is that obama adopted all of those communist beliefs

sure he did

that's why he collapsed the nation and made the US Communist country with himself as dictator

remember that's your fallback fantasies after you've worn yourself out with all your gay bath house fantasies

[240 is Back]

Difference is that obama adopted all of those communist beliefs

Doesn't obama's grandfather matter?  Yes or no?

[LurkerNoMore]

sure he did

that's why he collapsed the nation and made the US Communist country with himself as dictator

remember that's your fallback fantasies after you've worn yourself out with all your gay bath house fantasies

hahaha

[Coach is Back!]

coach, are grandfathers relevant?  You posted that obama's granddaddy was a communist.  Does that matter?

Seriously? Just stop and think about that for a minute. *holy shit