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Re: how to prep fries????
« Reply #25 on: January 11, 2015, 11:43:46 AM »
How would it not be done correctly if you are deep frying with a thermometer?

Ok ta I'm a man of reason show me some proof for a reputable sorce that you can deep fry somthing and not get any of the fat (oil) on what your cooking and I'll give it a shot. 

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Re: how to prep fries????
« Reply #26 on: January 11, 2015, 11:44:42 AM »
Falcon is drunk again  ::)

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Re: how to prep fries????
« Reply #27 on: January 11, 2015, 11:47:41 AM »
"while creating that sublime, toasty crust. In our Test Kitchen, six breaded, fried catfish fillets and a basket of hush puppies absorbed only ¼ cup oil! It’s all in the technique. See our step-by-step guide to healthy frying and recipes."

That's what I get when I searched it..

So in offsean sure! In contest prep I'm good.  I don't need the extra oil

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Re: how to prep fries????
« Reply #28 on: January 11, 2015, 11:50:15 AM »
Sometimes I will eat salt just for eating salt`s sake.  I will open up my spice cabinet and dump a mouthful of Kosher salt.  I like the taste!

Sodium ingestion is harmless when you drink enough fluids anyways and it won`t have any effect either of water retention if you are drinking enough liquids.  No idea why people avoid it really, especially when they are pre-contest dieting.



I'm a big fan of salt but some people (just some, not all like many people think) are sensitive to sodium in that it gives them hypertension.

Salty starchy foods are great when drunk to avoid/mitigate hangovers, provided you drink lots of fluids so they get extra marks from me.

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Re: how to prep fries????
« Reply #29 on: January 11, 2015, 11:53:02 AM »
For crispy French fries, you need a quality deep fryer, clean oil that can stand high temperatures without burning and then you cook them twice. They are ready when they reach a nice golden brown. A good way to remove any excess oil and salt them is to dump them in a paper grocery bag, add salt and shake the fries for about 30 seconds.

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Re: how to prep fries????
« Reply #30 on: January 11, 2015, 12:08:30 PM »
Ok ta I'm a man of reason show me some proof for a reputable sorce that you can deep fry somthing and not get any of the fat (oil) on what your cooking and I'll give it a shot. 
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S002364381200271X

 Experimental study on transport mechanisms during deep fat frying of chicken nuggets

    Sravan Lalama,
    Jaspreet S. Sandhua,
    Pawan S. Takhara, , ,
    Leslie D. Thompsona,
    Christine Alvaradob

The gage pressure increased rapidly after the nuggets were introduced into hot oil. As frying progressed the pressure inside the nugget decreased to negative values (suction). During post frying cooling there was a further reduction in pressure. The MC-coated nuggets had lower fat uptake and moisture loss than control nuggets for both frying temperatures. Scanning electronic microscopic analysis showed that the control nuggets had greater randomness in the crust, core and meat layers in terms of microstructure development, surface texture, rigidity and pore sizes than MC-coated nuggets. Higher frying temperature resulted in increased complexity of microstructure. The nuggets fried in dyed oil showed oil penetration up to 1–4 mm into the meat layer. This implied that the oil uptake was a surface phenomenon.

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Re: how to prep fries????
« Reply #31 on: January 11, 2015, 12:09:53 PM »
I just fry them its difficult to get big fries crispy enough

I mainly dump alot of ranch dressing and montery cheese on it

Anyone got something better?
A lot of cheese is not good. Tons of sodium.

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Re: how to prep fries????
« Reply #32 on: January 11, 2015, 12:12:19 PM »
what would Tesla do?

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Re: how to prep fries????
« Reply #33 on: January 11, 2015, 12:15:16 PM »
http://www.icef11.org/content/papers/aft/AFT1234.pdf

Transient mass and heat transfer during potato deep fat frying

The effect of the oil type, frying load and initial frying temperature
John S. Lioumbas,
Margaritis Kostoglou,
Thodoris D. Karapantsios
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CONCLUSION
The present experimental data demonstrate
that during deep fat frying, the amount of the evaporated water
and the temperature distribution inside the oil and the potato, depend strongly on the initial oil bulk
temperature and the frying load but not on the type of the oil. Specifically, higher initial oil temperatures and
lower frying loads result in increased oil temperature profiles which in turn result to higher vapour fluxes and
to final products with decreased moisture content
. Moreover, the experimental results reveal that:

The surface water evaporation, observed on the early stages of frying, is significant for the vapour flux
time profiles behavior and for the quality of the final product as well.

As higher the oil temperature profile is, the higher the vapour flux rate gets. The increased vapour flux
values should be associated with a rigid, crispy and thick crust. On the other hand, low vapour flux
values should be related with a not so intensive formation of a thin and soft crust.


During the last minutes of frying, the vapour flux receives common values regardless of the frying
conditions, which indicates that the phase change in a partially dehydrated zone is the dominant
mechanism of vapour generation as the frying proceeds.

Moreover,a simple analytical quasi
-
state model which is
based on the assumption of a sharp moving
interface can be applied for rough estimation of the boiling heat transfer coefficient only during the higher oil
temperatures (i.e. larger than 140
o
C).
The novel experimental data presented in this study, are expected to
contribute to a better understanding of the mechanisms prevailing during deep fat frying and to contribute to
more energy-
efficient frying appliances design.
ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS
We are thankful to European Space Agency for the financial support prov
ided through the project “Influence of gravity conditions on mass and heat transfer in porous media” (ESA
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22470/09/NL/CBi).

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Re: how to prep fries????
« Reply #34 on: January 11, 2015, 12:15:27 PM »
what would Tesla do?

Plug the deep fryer into the wall for epic electricity.
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Re: how to prep fries????
« Reply #35 on: January 11, 2015, 12:22:52 PM »
For crispy French fries, you need a quality deep fryer, clean oil that can stand high temperatures without burning and then you cook them twice. They are ready when they reach a nice golden brown. A good way to remove any excess oil and salt them is to dump them in a paper grocery bag, add salt and shake the fries for about 30 seconds.
1. No you don`t need a quality deep fryer.  Most are pure junk and do a very poor job at maintaining temperature.  There is not really one I would recommend at all and I have played around with a lot of them.  All junk.

2. All you need is a Dutch Oven, Stainless 18/10 for best results or anything Cast Iron or Cast Iron Enameled.

3. You can use oil over and over and over again and it takes a long while before it breaks down, but yes, its best to go with an oil with a high smoke point.   I have been using the same oil for around 20 different times now and it only gets better and better as I fry more stuff in it.  No reason to throw it out just yet.

This restaurant makes the best deep fried hamburger and it still has oil molecules from 1912 in it!


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Re: how to prep fries????
« Reply #36 on: January 11, 2015, 12:25:02 PM »
Plug the deep fryer into the wall for epic electricity.
Deep fryer home models are garbage.



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Re: how to prep fries????
« Reply #37 on: January 11, 2015, 12:25:53 PM »
Deep fryer home models are garbage.




Bake them in an oven?
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Re: how to prep fries????
« Reply #38 on: January 11, 2015, 12:29:16 PM »
Bake them in an oven?
No, use a Dutch Oven, Stainless 18/10 or Cast Iron or Cast Iron Enamel Dutch Oven or Fry Pan.

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Re: how to prep fries????
« Reply #40 on: January 11, 2015, 12:40:57 PM »
A Universal Rule is the amount of oil absorbed during frying is directly proportional to the amount of moisture lost from the food.

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Re: how to prep fries????
« Reply #41 on: January 11, 2015, 12:50:39 PM »
Carp guys why ruck with all the science around this and the equipment for it just go down to the nearest breakfast house diner and slam some down. Whole lot easier and they clean up the mess. No need to get all smart over f.u.c.k.I.n.g. fries. ;D
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Re: how to prep fries????
« Reply #42 on: January 11, 2015, 01:40:09 PM »
Carp guys why ruck with all the science around this and the equipment for it just go down to the nearest breakfast house diner and slam some down. Whole lot easier and they clean up the mess. No need to get all smart over f.u.c.k.I.n.g. fries. ;D
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Re: how to prep fries????
« Reply #43 on: January 11, 2015, 01:51:53 PM »
Carp guys why ruck with all the science around this and the equipment for it just go down to the nearest breakfast house diner and slam some down. Whole lot easier and they clean up the mess. No need to get all smart over f.u.c.k.I.n.g. fries. ;D

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Re: how to prep fries????
« Reply #44 on: January 11, 2015, 03:05:07 PM »
The oil that gets absorbed into fried foods happens within the first few seconds after it is removed from the oil, not while it's inside the hot oil.  When removed, the steam condenses and oil fills the void as the temperature of the food drops.  If you fry at a correct and constant temperature, and fry at the correct temperature, little to no oil is absorbed, hence you will get a crispy fry.  Your oil is not at a correct temperature and your removal from the oil after its done is not fast enough.

Try 400 degrees.

Also, there is no reason for Marty to really fry twice because I am assuming that he is using already fried frozen fries to start with so he will be essentially frying twice.  Now, if you make too many fries and can`t eat them all, refrying them is the best way and you will have nice crisp fresh fries again, even after being in the fridge or even stone cold.  This is essentially a confit.


i use russets im worried to start an oil fire at 400 will procede with caution
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Re: how to prep fries????
« Reply #45 on: January 11, 2015, 03:14:02 PM »
Five Guys Fries




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Re: how to prep fries????
« Reply #46 on: January 11, 2015, 03:28:01 PM »
Who can get that bojangles seasoning just right?
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Re: how to prep fries????
« Reply #47 on: January 11, 2015, 04:58:07 PM »
The Five Guys use sweet pickles in their Hamburgers.....Yuck!.  The more sour the better along with no mayonnaise...only yellow mustard.

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Re: how to prep fries????
« Reply #48 on: January 11, 2015, 05:00:06 PM »
I just fry them its difficult to get big fries crispy enough

I mainly dump alot of ranch dressing and montery cheese on it

Anyone got something better?

Go to 5 Guys and BUY a f'n bag you Julia Child reject. ;)
No kidding, 5 Guys Burgers as by far the best fries and they come in a bag

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Re: how to prep fries????
« Reply #49 on: January 11, 2015, 06:22:05 PM »
Who can get that bojangles seasoning just right?
Here is a magic link that you can order it directly from Bojangles.  This is top secret stuff.

http://www.costore.com/bojangles/productenlarged.asp?peid=160&pid=1174387