Superbowl XLIX - New England Patriots vs Seattle Seahawks

[Coach is Back!]

Bullshit, the pass should of been thrown lower and to the outside hip

All wilsons fault

If he would have git off quicker it doesnt matter where the ball was thrown. It was a dart.

[WalterWhite]

This what I just heard. It was a good call. Lockett was late getting off and by the time he turned the ball was intercepted. Blame goes to Lockett. Check the video clip by clip. You can see Lockett with a slow first step around the :30 marker.

Love that clip. 

[blacken700]

You're not very good at watching footwork are you?

he doesn't have a clue    alot on here don't know these are timimng routes and it has to do with dropbacks, 3 steep drop ,5 step drop,5 with a hitch ,7 step drop.

[Carlton G. Long]

oh, brother

You losers still debating this nonsense.  Game's over.

[_aj_]

oh, brother

You losers still debating this nonsense.  Game's over.

It's still irritating to me that this whole "run versus pass" bullshit completely eclipses the fact that Brady had a 4th quarter for the ages (and the record books), shredding the best defense in football with brutal precision to take the lead.

[Royalty]

It's still irritating to me that this whole "run versus pass" bullshit completely eclipses the fact that Brady had a 4th quarter for the ages (and the record books), shredding the best defense in football with brutal precision to take the lead.

Yes. If the Seahawks wanted to win.... They should've been able to stop Brady. Especially with their feared & infamous "legion of boom" secondary.

I'm a NY Giants fan, but I tip my hat to Brady and the Patriots. They are deserving champs!!

[Royalty]

And let's give some props to Malcolm Butler!

Here is a Tom Brady quote from ESPN.com:



"He's (Butler) been doing it to me in practice all season," Brady said, "so it was actually nice to see him pick somebody else off."

[blacken700]

It's still irritating to me that this whole "run versus pass" bullshit completely eclipses the fact that Brady had a 4th quarter for the ages (and the record books), shredding the best defense in football with brutal precision to take the lead.

 

[Nails]

[240 is Back]

all kidding aside...

I think caroll truly believed he'd get that TD no matter what - even without Lynch.   Three tries from the 1/2 yard line.  BOOM, no way they botch it 3 times.

I KNOW that caroll admitted this week he can't stop Lynch from embarrassing the team by grabbing his dick.
I KNOW the only move caroll can do to prevent the moment of glory (a win) from being stained with cockgrab is by not using Lynch for the winning TD.

Again, Caroll believed, absolutely, they'd get the TD.  Even without using Lynch. 

I KNOW that lynch had the hot hand, and nobody on Earth is going to stop him on the 1/2 line from getting the goal, the glory,and the $$$...

Maybe it's a move to weaken Lynch in contract negotiations.  Maybe it's a move to prevent him from grabbing penis.  Either way, Caroll went out of his way to skip Lynch in a very bizarre manner.   Anyone shitting on my theory has to give me a better explaination. 

If I am coach, and I figure I'll win anyway (1/2 yard line, they have WIlson's fast feet, they'll get it lol)...
and I probably hate that punk ass Lynch for acting the fool, and I can't even stop him (yes, coach can't stop it)...

Yes, I think maybe I pass the glory to someone else.  I think that's what happened today.  And I bet others will realize it soon enough.

In case you doubted it - Now we have reports from inside the seahawks that Caroll CHANGED the original second down play of "lynch run it in" for marketing purposes.   Caroll is denying it, but...

http://deadspin.com/pete-carroll-denies-reports-that-he-changed-seahawks-fi-1683459505

[polychronopolous]

In case you doubted it - Now we have reports from inside the seahawks that Caroll CHANGED the original second down play of "lynch run it in" for marketing purposes.   Caroll is denying it, but...

http://deadspin.com/pete-carroll-denies-reports-that-he-changed-seahawks-fi-1683459505

 

[SF1900]

In case you doubted it - Now we have reports from inside the seahawks that Caroll CHANGED the original second down play of "lynch run it in" for marketing purposes.   Caroll is denying it, but...

http://deadspin.com/pete-carroll-denies-reports-that-he-changed-seahawks-fi-1683459505

[SF1900]

In case you doubted it - Now we have reports from inside the seahawks that Caroll CHANGED the original second down play of "lynch run it in" for marketing purposes.   Caroll is denying it, but...
http://deadspin.com/pete-carroll-denies-reports-that-he-changed-seahawks-fi-1683459505

[240 is Back]

http://www.thenation.com/blog/196697/conspiracy-theory-surrounding-seahawks-last-play#

WOW... the entire case laid out there.   From contract to marketing to MVP to $$$ and everything else.

Even if Pete didn't change the play as numerous people are saying - this article sure provides all the motive one would ever need.   "Why would he do that" is fully answered.  

Now, we have to decide if Pete is immature/emotional/selfish enough to change a play for things like tens of millions of dollars.  

[SF1900]

http://www.thenation.com/blog/196697/conspiracy-theory-surrounding-seahawks-last-play#

In the stunning aftermath, after that unfathomable decision, conspiracy theories sprouted like Audrey II in Little Shop of Horrors. I’m not talking about Twitter-theories from deep-thinking eggs, or any cris de coeur from devastated Seahawks fans. I’m talking about people inside Seattle’s own locker room. I’m talking about texts I received from mainstream writers who don’t want to deal with the backlash that would come with writing it up.


The theory goes something like this. Russell Wilson is your young clean-cut God-fearing media-perfect quarterback. If one was creating a superstar face to market for the twenty-first century, chances are they would look, sound and basically be Russell Wilson. He’s Derek Jeter with a Bible, someone who comes across like he has never spoken out of turn in his entire life.* Marshawn Lynch is… Marshawn Lynch, and if you haven’t figured out what that means after the past two weeks, then you haven’t been paying attention.

The theory goes that there were major financial, public relations and football reasons for Russell Wilson and not Lynch to be the one who ends the game in glory. If he throws that touchdown for the victory, Wilson is almost certainly the Super Bowl MVP. He gets the commercial. He gets to stand with the commissioner. And oh, by the way, he also gets his new contract, one that will fasten his prime, at only 26 years old, to the Seattle franchise. Marshawn Lynch is also due a new contract. Marshawn Lynch, had he punched that ball over the goal line, would probably get to be the one handed the MVP trophy. Marshawn Lynch also maybe gets on the mic to say Lord knows what.

The conspiracy theory lies in the fact that Seahawks coach Pete Carroll believed that the last yard the Seahawks needed for that Super Bowl victory was a gimme and, all things being equal, much better to have the iconic Super Bowl moment go to Russell Wilson than to Marshawn Lynch. Coaches setting certain favored players up for glory is as old as football itself. In addition, the politics of race, respectability, public relations and what’s in the best interest of a $2 billion corporation all played into this. That’s the theory.

[240 is Back]

Almost word-for-word what I said 24 hours ago.  Exactly right:

The conspiracy theory lies in the fact that Seahawks coach Pete Carroll believed that the last yard the Seahawks needed for that Super Bowl victory was a gimme and, all things being equal, much better to have the iconic Super Bowl moment go to Russell Wilson than to Marshawn Lynch. Coaches setting certain favored players up for glory is as old as football itself. In addition, the politics of race, respectability, public relations and what’s in the best interest of a $2 billion corporation all played into this. That’s the theory.

[_aj_]

Lmaooooooooo!!!

[polychronopolous]

Almost word-for-word what I said 24 hours ago.  Exactly right:

The conspiracy theory lies in the fact that Seahawks coach Pete Carroll believed that the last yard the Seahawks needed for that Super Bowl victory was a gimme and, all things being equal, much better to have the iconic Super Bowl moment go to Russell Wilson than to Marshawn Lynch. Coaches setting certain favored players up for glory is as old as football itself. In addition, the politics of race, respectability, public relations and what’s in the best interest of a $2 billion corporation all played into this. That’s the theory.

"Pete I hate to break it to you but we just got a phone call from 'Rick' in Public Relations. Sponsors are voicing some concern about how Marshawn might react if he gets the touchdown. We're gonna have to go ahead and run the slant pass over the middle."

[El Diablo Blanco]

such bullshit.  Again for the last time. If Carroll cared he wouldn't have ran Lynch on 1st and goal where Lynch almost scored.  he would have passed them to give Wilson credit.  Why does everyone keep forgetting this fact?

[SF1900]

"Pete I hate to break it to you but we just got a phone call from 'Rick' in Public Relations. Sponsors are voicing some concern about how Marshawn might react if he gets the touchdown. We're gonna have to go ahead and run the slant pass over the middle."

I am starting to think that 240 may be part of the NWO. How could he have predicted this? 

[Royalty]

Almost word-for-word what I said 24 hours ago.  Exactly right:

The conspiracy theory lies in the fact that Seahawks coach Pete Carroll believed that the last yard the Seahawks needed for that Super Bowl victory was a gimme and, all things being equal, much better to have the iconic Super Bowl moment go to Russell Wilson than to Marshawn Lynch. Coaches setting certain favored players up for glory is as old as football itself. In addition, the politics of race, respectability, public relations and what’s in the best interest of a $2 billion corporation all played into this. That’s the theory.

Even if it was Carroll's decision to not give Lynch the ball...

His decision to throw in the direction of Malcolm Butler was a huge mistake

[Grape Ape]

such bullshit.  Again for the last time. If Carroll cared he wouldn't have ran Lynch on 1st and goal where Lynch almost scored.  he would have passed them to give Wilson credit.  Why does everyone keep forgetting this fact?

EDB - he told lynch to take a knee if he got to the one yard line.  You didn't know that?

[WalterWhite]

And let's give some props to Malcolm Butler!

Here is a Tom Brady quote from ESPN.com:



"He's (Butler) been doing it to me in practice all season," Brady said, "so it was actually nice to see him pick somebody else off."

Tom gave him the MVP truck he won.

[Royalty]

such bullshit.  Again for the last time. If Carroll cared he wouldn't have ran Lynch on 1st and goal where Lynch almost scored.  he would have passed them to give Wilson credit.  Why does everyone keep forgetting this fact?

I have watched the replay of that Lynch run. I was thinking about how huge that tackle was!!!! The game almost ended right there.

[240 is Back]

Even if it was Carroll's decision to not give Lynch the ball...

His decision to throw in the direction of Malcolm Butler was a huge mistake

Caroll has denied the reports from inside the SeaHawks locker room that he changed the play, than the NFL Network has been reporting.

Everyone is mic'd up, so it'd take 5 minutes for him to show the world he just okay'd the call from his OC, and didn't change it.  

His players would COMPLETELY lose faith in him - he'd be chased out of town - if he admitted he lost the super bowl because of financial and marketing reasons.