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New Jersey Cop Fatally Shoots Unarmed Man With His Hands Up
« on: January 24, 2015, 03:17:59 AM »


justified or not?


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Re: New Jersey Cop Fatally Shoots Unarmed Man With His Hands Up
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2015, 04:06:54 AM »
Justified, but I would've liked a better view into the car. The shot passenger had shot it out with cops before and got out after a long prison stay just a few years back, and had been caught slinging dope in the area before. A lot of folks are crying that the officer had control of the gun, but you don't know if the guy had a second secreted in the car, etc...., and he was acting belligerent.

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Re: New Jersey Cop Fatally Shoots Unarmed Man With His Hands Up
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2015, 04:18:09 AM »
I always smell bacon when cops are near, but unfortuntely america is a cop nation. If they yell at you with their red neck voice you just need to bare it, because american cops are the most paranoid gun wielders on earth- and just do what the cops tell you. Or get shot. So I guess it's justified.

I can't always blame the cops, american people are plain nuts for the most part.

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Re: New Jersey Cop Fatally Shoots Unarmed Man With His Hands Up
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2015, 04:18:48 AM »
The cops performing another public service, by killing another worthless dirtball criminal. Good Riddance!

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Re: New Jersey Cop Fatally Shoots Unarmed Man With His Hands Up
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2015, 05:35:31 AM »
I always smell bacon when cops are near, but unfortuntely america is a cop nation. If they yell at you with their red neck voice you just need to bare it, because american cops are the most paranoid gun wielders on earth- and just do what the cops tell you. Or get shot. So I guess it's justified.

I can't always blame the cops, american people are plain nuts for the most part.

How long have you lived in America?
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Re: New Jersey Cop Fatally Shoots Unarmed Man With His Hands Up
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2015, 05:39:01 AM »
How long have you lived in America?

Visited america once when I was a toddler, my view on america is from social media, news, documents and what not  :D

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Re: New Jersey Cop Fatally Shoots Unarmed Man With His Hands Up
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2015, 05:44:33 AM »
Visited america once when I was a toddler, my view on america is from social media, news, documents and what not  :D


Very wise to make such definitive statements about a country this size from that information.

I commute from the suburbs to the city 4x a week.  I've probably seen a police officer once in the last 2 months, and it was because he was directing traffic around a construction site.
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« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2015, 05:49:20 AM »
Very wise to make such definitive statements about a country this size from that information.

I commute from the suburbs to the city 4x a week.  I've probably seen a police officer once in the last 2 months, and it was because he was directing traffic around a construction site.

I know I shouldn't make such definitive statements about a huge nation like that because in actuality I don't know.

But I remember when I once visited there, everyone had this weird way of talking, like they were 50% movie and 50% reality. And people I once went school with who were exchange students, especially the gals told me that the american guys have no own opinions on anything and didn't have any depth, but the parties were phenomenal.

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Re: New Jersey Cop Fatally Shoots Unarmed Man With His Hands Up
« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2015, 05:52:43 AM »
I know I shouldn't make such definitive statements about a huge nation like that because in actuality I don't know.

But I remember when I once visited there, everyone had this weird way of talking, like they were 50% movie and 50% reality. And people I once went school with who were exchange students, especially the gals told me that the american guys have no own opinions on anything and didn't have any depth, but the parties were phenomenal.

Yeah, I don't know where you visited, but certain areas have some goofy accents.  But that works both ways for anyone here traveling abroad too.

College is not really a great litmus test either.  Most people are dumb asses at that age.

Either way, I was just chiding you a bit because I know you are a thinker.  I get how you could get the impression.  The information we have access to right now is completely insane to where it was only a short time ago, and it's going to take a long time for people's thinking to adjust.
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« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2015, 05:59:13 AM »
Yeah, I don't know where you visited, but certain areas have some goofy accents.  But that works both ways for anyone here traveling abroad too.

College is not really a great litmus test either.  Most people are dumb asses at that age.

Either way, I was just chiding you a bit because I know you are a thinker.  I get how you could get the impression.  The information we have access to right now is completely insane to where it was only a short time ago, and it's going to take a long time for people's thinking to adjust.

yeah I hear you and you're completely right, I really should take a trip there to find out for my self. And I could be surprised. I guess it's just trendy to hate everything now days... even I have fallen to that trap... I'm so weak  >:(

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Re: New Jersey Cop Fatally Shoots Unarmed Man With His Hands Up
« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2015, 06:01:10 AM »
Luckily the officer shot first in this case Officer should be awarded for taking another POS off the streets.

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« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2015, 06:01:23 AM »
yeah I hear you and you're completely right, I really should take a trip there to find out for my self. And I could be surprised. I guess it's just trendy to hate everything now days... even I have fallen to that trap... I'm so weak  >:(

Nah, not weak.  This country is enormous, and you're going to get vastly different impressions depending on where you go.
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Re: New Jersey Cop Fatally Shoots Unarmed Man With His Hands Up
« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2015, 06:02:43 AM »
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« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2015, 06:47:42 AM »
Nah, not weak.  This country is enormous, and you're going to get vastly different impressions depending on where you go.

This.

You'll notice that most of these are happening in urban areas that are high on crime. In my small town, I know all the cops and all of the fire dept. They delight in pulling me over to give me "warnings".

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« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2015, 06:48:57 AM »
He should have been killed the first time he tried to shoot a cop. Why are we so concerned with a convict carrying a gun?  

Black lives matter? You have 2589 people shot in Chicago alone in 2014. Most of the victims were black. Most of the known shooters are black. Where is Sharpton? Where are the protests? Where are the majority liberal news providers in print, internet and television? What do liberals care about? They care about guys that break the law, have criminal records, resist arrest and assault cops.

How's this for a statistic. In 2012 123 blacks were killed by cops and 326 whites. These stats came from the CDC.

Eric Holder said in effect he would do a through investigation on the Ferguson shooting. He insinuated he would bring Federal civil rights charges and have that cop arrested. On 1-21-2015 his Justice Department announced no charges would be bought against the cop. They had nothing to charge him with. I bet you never heard that in the left leaning news providers like ABC, NBC, and CBS.  Did Eric Holder hold a press conference saying the cop was cleared?

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« Reply #15 on: January 24, 2015, 06:52:45 AM »
Eric Holder said in effect he would do a through investigation on the Ferguson shooting. He insinuated he would bring Federal civil rights charges and have that cop arrested. On 1-21-2015 his Justice Department announced no charges would be bought against the cop. They had nothing to charge him with. I bet you never heard that in the left leaning news providers like ABC, NBC, and CBS.  Did Eric Holder hold a press conference saying the cop was cleared?

Holder knew he had nothing on Wilson, but starting the investigation allows him to bring civil rights violations against the entire PD in Ferguson, which is the end goal and is still on-going.

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« Reply #16 on: January 24, 2015, 06:53:53 AM »
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« Reply #17 on: January 24, 2015, 07:14:49 AM »
Holder knew he had nothing on Wilson, but starting the investigation allows him to bring civil rights violations against the entire PD in Ferguson, which is the end goal and is still on-going.

He will just put them under Federal monitoring for a couple of years like what was done to the NJ State Police. Then when they find nothing but trivial stuff and it will be dropped.

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Re: New Jersey Cop Fatally Shoots Unarmed Man With His Hands Up
« Reply #18 on: January 24, 2015, 07:31:08 AM »
the guy shouldnt have gotten out of the car like that,   

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Re: New Jersey Cop Fatally Shoots Unarmed Man With His Hands Up
« Reply #19 on: January 24, 2015, 08:26:34 AM »
Not this shit again... Not the dead blackie... That's fine. I mean the outrage.
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Re: New Jersey Cop Fatally Shoots Unarmed Man With His Hands Up
« Reply #20 on: January 24, 2015, 08:36:00 AM »
Seriously, until you've have a calzone in Jersey you just don't know.

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« Reply #21 on: January 24, 2015, 08:42:10 AM »
Seriously, until you've have a calzone in Jersey you just don't know.

The rest of the country thinks Pizza Hut and Dominos makes good pizza. Until you have a pizza made by an Italian in NJ or NY you never had a pizza. Imagine what garbage a fast food pizza chain calzone would be like?

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Re: New Jersey Cop Fatally Shoots Unarmed Man With His Hands Up
« Reply #22 on: January 24, 2015, 09:04:29 AM »
Terrifying Video Shows Black Man "With His Hands Raised" Shot To Death By New Jersey Cop

http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2015/01/jerame-reid-police-shot-video

A newly released dashcam recording shows a New Jersey police officer fatally shooting a black man whose hands were raised in the air.

The fatal encounter stems from a routine traffic stop on December 30, in which Bridgeton officers Braheme Days and Roger Worley pulled over a vehicle for running through a stop sign.

While questioning the two men, Leroy Tutt and Jerame Reid, the video shows Days suddenly shouting to his partner, "We've got a gun in his glove compartment!"

"Show me your fucking hands," Days, who appears to recognize Reid as he his heard calling him by his first name, warns. "He's reaching for something!"  

As the situation intensifies, Reid can be heard telling the officers, "I'm not reaching for nothing. I ain't got no reason to reach for nothing." He then tells Days, "I'm getting out and getting on the ground."

Reid gets up and exits the car with his hands raised. Then the two officers fire at least six shots, killing Reid.

"The video speaks for itself that at no point was Jerame Reid a threat and he possessed no weapon on his person," Walter Hudson of the civil rights group National Awareness Alliance said Wednesday.

According to records, Reid was in prison for 13 years for shooting at a state trooper when he was a teenager.

On Tuesday, the Bridgeton Police Department expressed its disappointment over the video's release "out of respect for the family." An investigation into the fatal shooting is being conducted.

The recording comes amid reports the Ferguson police officer who fatally shot 18-year-old Michael Brown will be cleared of federal civil rights charges. The August shooting sparked massive protests around the country with the chant, "Hands up, don't shoot" serving as a symbolic call for justice in Brown's death.
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Re: New Jersey Cop Fatally Shoots Unarmed Man With His Hands Up
« Reply #23 on: January 24, 2015, 09:27:13 AM »
So the scumbag shot a State Trooper? What goes around, comes  around. Ain't Karma a Bitch!

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« Reply #24 on: January 24, 2015, 10:15:58 AM »
I know I shouldn't make such definitive statements about a huge nation like that because in actuality I don't know.

But I remember when I once visited there, everyone had this weird way of talking, like they were 50% movie and 50% reality. And people I once went school with who were exchange students, especially the gals told me that the american guys have no own opinions on anything and didn't have any depth, but the parties were phenomenal.

your view is fairly accurate.