Author Topic: Airline crashes into river today only miles away my gym. (Read 9536 times)

The_Punisher · « **Reply #25 on:** February 04, 2015, 05:38:04 AM »

Quote from: musclecenter on February 04, 2015, 05:31:25 AM

the plane,France's ATR72-600, left engine was failured before crashed.

if left engine went out, they'd still have the right engine to provide enough lift to land the plane......the fact that it flipped this way clearly shows the left wing lost serious lift....damn, Turbo Prop Engines are Tricky sometime...it could have worse if they didn't make it to the River....

musclecenter · « **Reply #26 on:** February 04, 2015, 05:47:54 AM »

ABC News

RJ DRIVER · « **Reply #27 on:** February 04, 2015, 05:49:10 AM »

Quote from: Rudee on February 03, 2015, 11:38:00 PM

Asians have been having a problem keeping planes in the air as of late.

Asia and India are notorious for putting very inexperienced pilots in big aircraft. Not to mention the training departments there are old school and haven't kept up with the times. Over there the captain has absolute authority and the first officers are not encouraged to speak up or question the captain. In the rest of the world each pilot is told to monitor the other one and call out anything unsafe or non standard. Lots of people on the aviation boards are commenting that from first look this accident looks very preventable. All that was needed was full rudder on the operating side engine to prevent the aircrafts roll. I guess in the coming weeks we'll find out if there were other factors or malfunctins

musclecenter · « **Reply #28 on:** February 04, 2015, 06:20:22 AM »

crashed plane was snatched from river minutes ago

The_Punisher · « **Reply #29 on:** February 04, 2015, 06:43:39 AM »

Aviation Experts are saying that these type of Turbo Prop Planes are hard to recover from a stall if the pilot waited to late to take action.....the Colgan air crash in Buffalo 6yrs ago was a similar plane as this one......it stalled on approach and flipped

The_Punisher · « **Reply #30 on:** February 04, 2015, 06:53:57 AM »

Quote from: RJ DRIVER on February 04, 2015, 05:49:10 AM

Asia and India are notorious for putting very inexperienced pilots in big aircraft. Not to mention the training departments there are old school and haven't kept up with the times. Over there the captain has absolute authority and the first officers are not encouraged to speak up or question the captain. In the rest of the world each pilot is told to monitor the other one and call out anything unsafe or non standard. Lots of people on the aviation boards are commenting that from first look this accident looks very preventable. All that was needed was full rudder on the operating side engine to prevent the aircrafts roll. I guess in the coming weeks we'll find out if there were other factors or malfunctins

they already looking at Pilot errors here......this was a Brand new airplane, delivered just a couple months ago....they gonna find out why this plane couldn't maintain altitude on one engine

240 is Back · « **Reply #31 on:** February 04, 2015, 07:30:57 AM »

Quote from: The_Punisher on February 04, 2015, 05:21:42 AM

Damn, what the hell is going on lately with these Asian Airlines?.......it looks like this plane lost Lift on approach

the other planes were asking 'do you even lift?"

The_Punisher · « **Reply #32 on:** February 04, 2015, 07:33:57 AM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on February 04, 2015, 07:30:57 AM

the other planes were asking 'do you even lift?"

RJ DRIVER · « **Reply #33 on:** February 04, 2015, 07:49:09 AM »

Here is a very similiar crash. Caused by vmc roll. Pilot would hav survived with enough rudder pressure.

Victor VonDoom · « **Reply #34 on:** February 04, 2015, 07:55:13 AM »

How convenient the driver had a dashcam. Not one week goes by without some dashcam footage showing up on the news. Is Doom the only one not using a dashcam? What motivates so many people to set up a car camera? Is a dashcam going to become standard equipment on new cars? Bah!

The_Punisher · « **Reply #35 on:** February 04, 2015, 08:00:44 AM »

Quote from: RJ DRIVER on February 04, 2015, 07:49:09 AM

Here is a very similiar crash. Caused by vmc roll. Pilot would hav survived with enough rudder pressure.

knowing what to do in these life or death situation is crucial, it's sad that most pilots who would find themselves in these situation won't react in time to save the plane and the lives.....the US has done a Pretty good fucking job with pilot training and Aviation Standards.......AirAsia is now blaming the co-pilot for the December crash and now, it looks like they about to point fingers at this pilot as well...Sad

calfzilla · « **Reply #36 on:** February 04, 2015, 10:37:18 AM »

Quote from: Victor VonDoom on February 04, 2015, 07:55:13 AM

How convenient the driver had a dashcam. Not one week goes by without some dashcam footage showing up on the news. Is Doom the only one not using a dashcam? What motivates so many people to set up a car camera? Is a dashcam going to become standard equipment on new cars? Bah!

They are very popular in many countries and I imagine they will become increasingly popular in the U.S.

Victor VonDoom · « **Reply #37 on:** February 04, 2015, 10:45:18 AM »

Quote from: calfzilla on February 04, 2015, 10:37:18 AM

They are very popular in many countries and I imagine they will become increasingly popular in the U.S.

So it seems. Do you have a dashcam? Would you? What would be your motivation for setting one up? If a dashcam were an option on a car how much would you be willing to pay to have one? $100? $500? more? What exactly are you expecting/hoping to catch on video? Bah!

El Diablo Blanco · « **Reply #38 on:** February 04, 2015, 10:48:08 AM »

Quote from: calfzilla on February 04, 2015, 05:03:40 AM

Why were they rescuing luggage?

Plane was carrying billions in cash, was taken down puposely. It was grand theft airplane.

LittleJ · « **Reply #39 on:** February 04, 2015, 10:51:09 AM »

Rip Jaejonna

Novena · « **Reply #40 on:** February 04, 2015, 12:18:36 PM »

Quote from: calfzilla on February 04, 2015, 05:03:40 AM

Why were they rescuing luggage?

1) Indeed to facilitate survivor rescue. But also;
2) To conduct a failure analysis.

You have to know where everything was in the plane. You also have to examine the luggage to see if there was some sort of shenanigans.

The plane will be rebuilt in a warehouse and examined.

Rudee · « **Reply #41 on:** February 04, 2015, 12:29:27 PM »

Quote from: The_Punisher on February 04, 2015, 06:43:39 AM

Aviation Experts are saying that these type of Turbo Prop Planes are hard to recover from a stall if the pilot waited to late to take action.....the Colgan air crash in Buffalo 6yrs ago was a similar plane as this one......it stalled on approach and flipped

Pilot had zero change of recovering from a stall at that altitude. A multi-engine turboprop would need minimum of 3000 feet altitude for stall recovery. Even a single-engine plane couldn't have recovered from that low altitude.

hench · « **Reply #42 on:** February 04, 2015, 12:44:05 PM »

amazed there were any survivors, it didn't exactly go down in a controlled way

BOW · « **Reply #43 on:** February 04, 2015, 01:04:12 PM »

Quote from: The_Punisher on February 04, 2015, 05:21:42 AM

Damn, what the hell is going on lately with these Asian Airlines?.......it looks like this plane lost Lift on approach

asians fly about as well as they drive...

The Abdominal Snoman · « **Reply #44 on:** February 04, 2015, 03:00:36 PM »

Wow! Looks like it just missed those buildings. I bet the pilots did everything they could to keep it from hitting them...

ritch · « **Reply #45 on:** February 04, 2015, 03:09:33 PM »

Quote from: Father of Bodybuilding on February 03, 2015, 11:18:10 PM

Get on that bridge M-Center. Good opportunity for a televised front double bi followed but a quarter turn side tri.

Just saying. Arnold's dad died, he kept training. He was dead, what's the point.

funny shit!!!

WalterWhite · « **Reply #46 on:** February 04, 2015, 03:37:01 PM »

Quote from: The Abdominal Snoman on February 04, 2015, 03:00:36 PM

Wow! Looks like it just missed those buildings. I bet the pilots did everything they could to keep it from hitting them...

I was thinking the same thing! Thankfully they were avoided!

RJ DRIVER · « **Reply #47 on:** February 04, 2015, 04:48:07 PM »

Quote from: Rudee on February 04, 2015, 12:29:27 PM

Pilot had zero change of recovering from a stall at that altitude. A multi-engine turboprop would need minimum of 3000 feet altitude for stall recovery. Even a single-engine plane couldn't have recovered from that low altitude.

Way off base with that 3,000feet. Some airlines use to train that you had to recover within 100 feet to be certified in the aircraft.

Powerlift66 · « **Reply #48 on:** February 05, 2015, 05:10:56 AM »

I know Asians cant drive, does this also carry over to flying?

Asian guy almost took me out yesterday, flew right thru a 4-way stop at around 40 MPH.
Maybe he was blind-folded (with dental floss)...

Thick Nick · « **Reply #49 on:** February 05, 2015, 05:56:05 AM »

Quote from: dr.chimps on February 04, 2015, 01:20:35 AM

Sum Ting Wong
Wi Tu Lo
Ho Lee Fuk
Bang Ding Ow

When this is the name of the pilot and crew...

You just know it's going to be a bumpy flight.