BigRo Exposed as an idiot, Whey Protein vs Meat Debate

[el numero uno]

I get my chicken from a local source which is not intensively farmed. Buy my steak organic.

there is much evidence out there about aspartame/sucralose causing illness.

Yes, cause the whole test, tren, hgh, insuline, dianabol, t3, ephedrine, diuretics, etc combo does nothing at all to a bodybuilder's body.

[ritch]

is there really any solid proof yet that artificial sweeteners are bad?

BigRo is right though that foods > powders

When used in sane amounts, no. There is no reason whatsoever to worry about that. Coming from guys willing to use gear and shit, that just makes me laugh.

Pussy boys....

[falco]

Only on Getbig do you have a 165 pound sniffer of male asses telling a world-class 240 pounds bodybuilder he's doing it wrong

 

[Van_Bilderass]

I always counted whey as food. It's a processed milk product. I think it's kind
of ridiculous to talk about protein powder vs food. They are both food.

If many products don't contain what the label says, that's a problem, but
it doesn't change my contention that whey is food, a good protein source.
If whey didn't "work" it wouldn't be put in infant formulas or other products
for sick people, they would use powdered chicken or steak instead.

[SF1900]

I always counted whey as food. It's a processed milk product. I think it's kind
of ridiculous to talk about protein powder vs food. They are both food.

If many products don't contain what the label says, that's a problem, but
it doesn't change my contention that whey is food, a good protein source.
If whey didn't "work" it wouldn't be put in infant formulas or other products
for sick people, they would use powdered chicken or steak instead.

These babies are going to get jacked from their whey protein. 

Comfort Proteins® are easy for your baby to digest and may also provide protective benefits. Certain formulas made from 100% whey protein partially hydrolyzed—like milk-based GOOD START® formulas—may reduce the risk of Atopic Dermatitis throughout the first year of life, compared to formulas made with intact cow's milk protein.**

Gerber formulas provide some of the benefits of breastmilk, because:

    They help support both the digestive and immune system
    They help make softer stools
    They empty from the baby’s tummy at a similar rate as breastmilk.

[_aj_]

These babies are going to get jacked from their whey protein. 

Comfort Proteins® are easy for your baby to digest and may also provide protective benefits. Certain formulas made from 100% whey protein partially hydrolyzed—like milk-based GOOD START® formulas—may reduce the risk of Atopic Dermatitis throughout the first year of life, compared to formulas made with intact cow's milk protein.**

Gerber formulas provide some of the benefits of breastmilk, because:

    They help support both the digestive and immune system
    They help make softer stools
    They empty from the baby’s tummy at a similar rate as breastmilk.

What Getbigger wouldn't take active steps for softer stools?

[SF1900]

What Getbigger wouldn't take active steps for softer stools?

 

I have heard some bodybuilders eat baby food.

I may have to pick up a few jars of baby food for the ultimate gains.

This baby is already jacked from her whey protein baby formula

[Van_Bilderass]

I have heard some bodybuilders eat baby food.

I may have to pick up a few jars of baby food for the ultimate gains.

This baby is already jacked from her whey protein baby formula

My buddy who competed in the world champs in Brazil recently had a whole suitcase with baby food bottles with him for his carb load.

[_bruce_]

 

[Kwon_2]

LOL A Fitness Frenzy-Classic!

[FitnessFrenzy]

LOL A Fitness Frenzy-Classic!

ironmeister made that photo! 

[Method101]

What facts have you presented? None. You dirty prick.

The only tests which showed toxicity from aspartame are where a totally gigantic amount was given to rats which would be impossible to get unless you drank several gallons of diet coke a day, anything is toxic in high enough dosages, Theres a fact you stinking c unt.

Whey Protein powder is REAL FOODand has a far higher biological value than beef without all the artery clogging saturated fat there is another fact how many fucking times do you magazine wielding pricks need to be told that before you understand. Plus Whey Protein is also a more affordable food source since it's a side product of cheese production whereas steak requires the raising and slaughtering of an animal over years.

[thegamechanger]

i once went to a steakhouse and me and my girl had ourselves a whey proteinstake.
wasnt quite the same as a steak but at least the biological value was high.
good times!!

[Method101]

i once went to a steakhouse and me and my girl had ourselves a whey proteinstake.
wasnt quite the same as a steak but at least the biological value was high.
good times!!

your body was able to utilize for growth more of the protein in the whey shake than it would from the steak yes.

[liquid_c]

Organic=cost more.  Never has been shown to be any better.   There is nothing wrong at all with whey as a protein source.  While many prefer to eat regular chicken, beef or fish, it all works the same if you are talking about protein.  In fact whey's amino acid profile is technically superior to just about any other.  People seem to think that because you drink something you body says "hey, this is a protein shake and not some chicken" let's not digest it or use it the same way we do the other protein products.  Same type of mentality that makes people think free weights are 100x more superior to machines.  Like your body is saying, hey this muscle breakdown is coming from the hammer strength machine, let's not rebuild the muscle fiber the same way.  Your body doesn't care either way .

[Method101]

Organic=cost more.  Never has been shown to be any better.   There is nothing wrong at all with whey as a protein source.  While many prefer to eat regular chicken, beef or fish, it all works the same if you are talking about protein.  In fact whey's amino acid profile is technically superior to just about any other.  People seem to think that because you drink something you body says "hey, this is a protein shake and not some chicken" let's not digest it or use it the same way we do the other protein products.  Same type of mentality that makes people think free weights are 100x more superior to machines.  Like your body is saying, hey this muscle breakdown is coming from the hammer strength machine, let's not rebuild the muscle fiber the same way.  Your body doesn't care either way .

YES, SOMEONE FINALLY GETS IT LOL.

Broscience is strong on getbig at the moment.

[bigmc]

your body was able to utilize for growth more of the protein in the whey shake than it would from the steak yes.

you are the reason supplement companies exist

[jprc10]

Method, what you're saying is true, about real whey protein having a higher biological value than meats and being just another form of food containing amino acids. The problem lies in the fact that you cannot know for certain that a supplement advertised as "good whey protein" really contains what is on the label. Supplements are not regulated, so in effect you could be getting a powder that is just fillers and cheap chinese whey, instead of the good whey you're talking about.

[jprc10]

In other words, just get your protein from foods you know for certain they contain all those amino acids you're looking for.

[liquid_c]

That isn't a valid comparison.  With the steak, you are also getting fat, hence the big calorie difference.  Plus vitamins, minerals, etc.   What we are talking about here is the protein specifically.  Obviously no one is suggesting you eat a pure whey diet.   For a better comparison, a two scoop whey isolate shake, a cup of almonds or cashews would be comparable vs a steak by itself.  

[thegamechanger]

what if...




































i would eat a steak and drink a whey protein shake with it 

[Rudee]

I normally take whey by itself with water, but my girlfriend has got me into drinking green smoothies the last month, and I'm now blending whey into a post workout green smoothie, and it seems to be working out quite well.  Smoothie:  half cucumber, 2 celery stalks, 3 Kale leaves, 1 green apple, slice of lemon, slice of ginger, 1.25 cups water, 1.5 scoops vanilla ON protein.  Blend in Blendec until smooth. 

[TheShape.]

The only tests which showed toxicity from aspartame are where a totally gigantic amount was given to rats which would be impossible to get unless you drank several gallons of diet coke a day, anything is toxic in high enough dosages, Theres a fact you stinking c unt.

Whey Protein powder is REAL FOODand has a far higher biological value than beef without all the artery clogging saturated fat there is another fact how many fucking times do you magazine wielding pricks need to be told that before you understand. Plus Whey Protein is also a more affordable food source since it's a side product of cheese production whereas steak requires the raising and slaughtering of an animal over years.

I don't care about the aspartame issue, what facts I was asking for or studies rather regarding whey proteins bio availability to the body. It's funny that you mention magazines because they are the ones advocating whey in the first place, they don't advertise ground beef. Also, speaking on personal experience, as a natural my muscles have never been more full after abandoning the whey for better quality food and I bought into the supplement bullshit hard for years.

[Grape Ape]

Chocolate ON tastes way better than Vanilla and Strawberry is the worst

Not mixed with vegetables.

[Van_Bilderass]

What does it matter fat doesn't help you burn fat or build muscle so its an irrelevant point.

also 100g lean steak will contain between 5-10g fat depending on how lean it is.

doesn't matter u can replace the steak in the example with equivalent in fish or chicken.

either way 300g protein from real meat will NEVER in a million years equal 300g protein from Whey isolate.

You can experiment on yourself for 6-8 weeks and find out for yourself.

On real meat u will be full and thick, on whey isolate u will be flat as fuck and lose size.

What the fuck do you know about being full or flat? Aren't you the cokehead who only sometimes goes to the gym? Full or flat you're still skinny-fat. You are talking about "filling out" LOL? Get the fuck out of here.

Fact of the matter is that whey has some advantages over meats and meats have some advantages over whey. Many many top bodybuilders use powder proteins. There are also some who rarely do shakes. But powder proteins make it much more convenient to meet your daily protein goals. Say you are sick to your stomach from all the tren and anadrol and can't eat whole food, or after training when you feel sick and can't stomach solids. Good quality powders can help a lot. OTOH there's no magic to whey either, it's just protein.