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Re: acid reflux
« Reply #25 on: February 10, 2015, 06:24:26 AM »
Illuminati and El Diablo Blanco made some really good suggestions. I had reflux for about 6 months last years. Took a lot of experimentation to get rid of it.

Peppermint tea and Ginger tea both really help, they work via different mechanisms so its worth alternating them throughout the day.

Camomile is an anfi-inflmmatory which soothes the intestines.

Fresh ginger is even better, jbuy a root from the supermarket and slice a few pieces into camomile tea. Drink all liquids away from a meal.

You want to get off PPI as quick as you can, they dont really help, just mask the problem.

That main problem with reflux is that your stomach acid is actually too weak. Because its so weak, it cannot break down the food you are eating effectively, when you have weak stomach acid and lots of liquid floating around, this is when it can flow back up your oesophagus and cause the burning sensation.

If you eat a meal drink very little liquid with it, if possible none at all. This will ensure your stomach acid is as strong as possible, food will be digested effectively and the potential for flow back minimal. Another good idea which one of the other posters suggested was drinking some Bitters before a meal which will boost your stomach acid production.

The other problem is with the stomach valve not closing, partly this is due to a lack of acidity which plays a part in the valve closing and preventing flow back of acid but also a magnesium deficiency. Mangesium oxide will help take 500mg every day.

Slippery elm is another supplement of use to try which helps form a soft mucilage and can help heal and protect the lining of the stomach and oesophagus. The powder can be mixed with milk, something the native indians used as medicine. Works pretty well.

Things like Gaviscon, Pepto Bismol are awful stuff, they treat the symptom and not the cause, they are alkaline and reduce your stomach acidity further so that you dont get the burning sensation when the acid hits your oesophagus. They do nothing to treat the cause of heartburn or GERD, and in fact extend and make it worse.



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Re: acid reflux
« Reply #26 on: February 10, 2015, 06:59:02 AM »
I went trough all this too.  The thing about gaviscon, etc is that while, yes, the alleviate symptons only, the can be the diierence between sleeping for a week and not.  i used  
ppi for two years to combat some really bad issues, then weaned off them and only use occasionally.

The truth was though, the stomach do was sooo not progressive on addressing diet.  only cared about meds.

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Re: acid reflux
« Reply #27 on: February 10, 2015, 04:41:25 PM »
This is a phenomenal post.

Peppermint tea is a big no no for acid reflux brah, it's a spasmolytic and myorelaxant (ever wonder why muscle cream smells like mint), well if you had went to a real school you would know that the stomach and esophagus are separated by the UES, which needs to be tight not relaxed.


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Re: acid reflux
« Reply #28 on: February 10, 2015, 04:44:17 PM »
Minimize toxins means to decrease the amount of toxins that you put inside or on your body.

What does "don't have asthma" mean for the practical purposes of this conversation lol?

toxins is a stupid term that is meaningless. Some things are toxic to others but benign in some. is semen toxic?

Asthma is the etiology of GERD in many, constricted bronchi cause reflexive action and UES relaxation.

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Re: acid reflux
« Reply #29 on: February 10, 2015, 05:23:44 PM »
This is a phenomenal post.

All stuff Rheo Blair said to do.

Great post.

Dude was way ahead of his time.

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Re: acid reflux
« Reply #30 on: February 10, 2015, 07:25:10 PM »
Peppermint tea is a big no no for acid reflux brah, it's a spasmolytic and myorelaxant (ever wonder why muscle cream smells like mint), well if you had went to a real school you would know that the stomach and esophagus are separated by the UES, which needs to be tight not relaxed.


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Agreed that sphincters and semen are your specialty, cowboy! Keep prescribing that good ole Prilosec!

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Re: acid reflux
« Reply #31 on: February 10, 2015, 09:00:15 PM »
I take a couple of small drinks of Apple Cider Vinegar each day.  Works wonders!
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Re: acid reflux
« Reply #32 on: February 11, 2015, 12:25:04 AM »
Peppermint tea is a big no no for acid reflux brah, it's a spasmolytic and myorelaxant (ever wonder why muscle cream smells like mint), well if you had went to a real school you would know that the stomach and esophagus are separated by the UES, which needs to be tight not relaxed.


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Yep Im aware that UES needs to be tight as I mentioned that in my post. Im aware peppermint is a relaxant as well, but I think its still worthwhile if you are doing all the other things in my post. Most people who have gerd are or reflex are usutall experiencing other digestive issues and peppermint helps to address these.

As I mentioned in my post all liquids, including peppermint tea, should be drunk away from meal time so as not to stimulate the situation where you might have food present, weak acid and the UES relaxed.
Drink the tea away from meals so it can help reduce irritation in the digestive system.


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Re: acid reflux
« Reply #33 on: February 11, 2015, 03:46:40 AM »
I wonder if bigmc drinks everyday. If so, then that would definitely be a factor.

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Re: acid reflux
« Reply #34 on: February 11, 2015, 04:16:52 AM »
Diet and timing of certain things in relation to bedtime will help. I have a sliding hiatal hernia and have dealt with it for many years. I used aciphex for several years as well as few other proton pump inhibitors but realized through dietary practices, I didn't need to rely on meds.

If you must drink coffee, switch to decaf or half caff. That made a world of difference.

Avoid acidic foods such as tomato sauce near bed time. A Stay away from spicy and greasy food. Sugar in excess is to be avoided as well. As far as drinking goes, I stay far away from red wine.

Should you start to get reflux, pepto is a great help but is often times to swallow if the reflux is severe so I use the childrens tablets. Just chew them up a couple at a time.
Lastly, when heartburn creeps in, take a mango extract pill. Nothing but mango. It's amazingly helpful

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Re: acid reflux
« Reply #35 on: February 11, 2015, 04:19:31 AM »
I wonder if bigmc drinks everyday. If so, then that would definitely be a factor.

i only drink once a month
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Re: acid reflux
« Reply #36 on: February 11, 2015, 05:22:37 AM »
Had the same problem for 5 years and been on omniprazole and after breakfast (porridge) would always feel like i was having a heart attack,so i decided to cut out as many wheat products as possible,i drink honey and lemon when i wake up on an empty stomach,and i`ve changed the breakfast to a handful of almonds and a banana.i`ve also stopped with the medication now 6 months ago and not once have i had a problem.

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Re: acid reflux
« Reply #37 on: February 11, 2015, 05:39:59 AM »
There seems to be an aversion to eating vegetables for breakfast.

My breakfast is 4 scrambled eggs, mesclun salad and half a large red pepper.

Not only is this breakfast highly nutritious, but it's very low cal, giving you some wiggle room for indiscretions later in the day. 8)

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Re: acid reflux
« Reply #38 on: February 11, 2015, 05:44:33 AM »
Diet and timing of certain things in relation to bedtime will help. I have a sliding hiatal hernia and have dealt with it for many years. I used aciphex for several years as well as few other proton pump inhibitors but realized through dietary practices, I didn't need to rely on meds.

If you must drink coffee, switch to decaf or half caff. That made a world of difference.

Avoid acidic foods such as tomato sauce near bed time. A Stay away from spicy and greasy food. Sugar in excess is to be avoided as well. As far as drinking goes, I stay far away from red wine.

Should you start to get reflux, pepto is a great help but is often times to swallow if the reflux is severe so I use the childrens tablets. Just chew them up a couple at a time.
Lastly, when heartburn creeps in, take a mango extract pill. Nothing but mango. It's amazingly helpful


Some really good points here. Tomato, spicy foods, red wine can all have irritaing effects on the digestive system.

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Re: acid reflux
« Reply #39 on: February 11, 2015, 05:53:42 AM »
toxins is a stupid term that is meaningless. Some things are toxic to others but benign in some. is semen toxic?

Asthma is the etiology of GERD in many, constricted bronchi cause reflexive action and UES relaxation.

Interesting, I have never heard of that.

OP should also check for h pylori as that is all too often a cause that most docs miss.

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Re: acid reflux
« Reply #40 on: February 11, 2015, 06:02:18 AM »
i eat too much bread

everything is a sandwich

i need to cut it out see how that plays

its the only bad part f my diet
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Re: acid reflux
« Reply #41 on: February 11, 2015, 06:05:57 AM »
i eat too much bread

everything is a sandwich

i need to cut it out see how that plays

its the only bad part f my diet
I would love to be the meat in a bigmc sandwich.

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Re: acid reflux
« Reply #42 on: February 11, 2015, 06:18:58 AM »
symptom of gluten intolerance

I used to have wicked reflux, the wake-up-in-the-middle of the night choking kind of reflux.

Cut back on wheat and corn-based processed foods, no more reflux. It's 100% diet, aggravated by stress.


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Re: acid reflux
« Reply #43 on: February 11, 2015, 06:36:58 AM »
I've got to sleep sitting up all the time. I've got IBS,  so I take metamucil 3 times a day and Bentyl 4 times a day.

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Re: acid reflux
« Reply #44 on: February 11, 2015, 06:58:28 AM »
I used to have wicked reflux, the wake-up-in-the-middle of the night choking kind of reflux.

Cut back on wheat and corn-based processed foods, no more reflux. It's 100% diet, aggravated by stress.



You may find corn in glutes but there is no gluten in corn.  Yep, it's frankenfood that causes problems.

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Re: acid reflux
« Reply #45 on: February 11, 2015, 07:55:49 AM »
i only drink once a month... for 30 days.
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Re: acid reflux
« Reply #46 on: February 11, 2015, 08:33:25 AM »
Like Chronos said, don't drink about an hour before eating.  Also wait an hour after.  people drink way too much during meals and it affects your digestion causing the reflux.  Farah who was shot dealt with bad issues on this and when he stopped drinking during a meal it helped a lot.

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Re: acid reflux
« Reply #47 on: February 11, 2015, 08:36:17 AM »
Peppermint tea is a big no no for acid reflux brah, it's a spasmolytic and myorelaxant (ever wonder why muscle cream smells like mint), well if you had went to a real school you would know that the stomach and esophagus are separated by the UES, which needs to be tight not relaxed.


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Re: acid reflux
« Reply #48 on: February 11, 2015, 08:39:39 AM »
Stop eating wheat and anything that contains wheat and this along with most of your other ailments will be cured...according to cardiologist William Davis, MD.  Could be true.

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Re: acid reflux
« Reply #49 on: February 11, 2015, 08:52:42 AM »
dont drink juice or soda and minimize food with graphic design.

Havent had it for years...well hade it yesterday so I almost puked, but only last for some minutes then away!

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