Someone explain the thought process behind this

[Coach is Back!]

http://www.conservativeoutfitters.com/blogs/news/17108129-family-cant-believe-their-son-was-shot-while-committing-armed-robbery

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It is the wail of the perpetually entitled. The whole family has been given everything for generations. They actually believe that it is their right to steal what they want from others. Mental illness.

[Archer77]

Victim mentality. 

[240 is Back]

generation selfie.  generation entitlement. 

It isn't one party, one race, one socioeconomic level, or anything else.

it's the entire generation of instant satisfaction, buy-on-credit, sue at the drop of a hat, expect handouts, etc.  Technology and in particular, social media, has turned everything into a series of likes = approval.  Men used to have to go chop down a tree if they wanted satisfaction.  Now they post a selfie and count the likes.  Women used to get a degree and stay in shape for the win... now they can post a cleavage selfie on FB on a Monday night and they get 225 likes in two hours. 

we have to stop blaming a race, a party, or anything like that... it's bigger than that.  It's the mindset of society in general.

[liberty]

Don't forget 'Generation Phone'     

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I blame "whatsapp"

[240 is Back]

Look at the top names in sports and entertainment...

DLB?  Selfies and "natty".
Phil Heath?  Louis Voutton bag and calling out haters while benching 5 "plates" on Hammer Strength.
NFL?  Um, crotch grabbing Beastmode was a bad call away from Super Bowl MVP.
NBA?  A bunch of 6'8" dudes wearing spandex suits and empty glasses.
Hollywood?  Bradley Cooper is the #1 Obamacare lobbyist for DC in hollywood, and gets rewarded with Sniper movie.

it's crap.  It's all crap.

[Archer77]

generation selfie.  generation entitlement. 

It isn't one party, one race, one socioeconomic level, or anything else.

it's the entire generation of instant satisfaction, buy-on-credit, sue at the drop of a hat, expect handouts, etc.  Technology and in particular, social media, has turned everything into a series of likes = approval.  Men used to have to go chop down a tree if they wanted satisfaction.  Now they post a selfie and count the likes.  Women used to get a degree and stay in shape for the win... now they can post a cleavage selfie on FB on a Monday night and they get 225 likes in two hours. 

we have to stop blaming a race, a party, or anything like that... it's bigger than that.  It's the mindset of society in general.

The mentality is mainly a product of the left. It's the left that popularized the concept of institutional entities or external circumstances being responsible for peoples actions.  It's the left who dismiss bad behavior by rationalizing the cause is external as opposed to a moral failing of the individual.

[Soul Crusher]

In before LittleJ cries foul

[Parker]

The mentality is mainly a product of the left. It's the left that popularized the concept of institutional entities or external circumstances being responsible for peoples actions.  It's the left who dismiss bad behavior by rationalizing the cause is external as opposed to a moral failing of the individual.

I believe it can be both.

[Archer77]

I believe it can be both.

It can be but the mistake most people make is they don't make the determination on an individual basis.

[240 is Back]

The mentality is mainly a product of the left. It's the left that popularized the concept of institutional entities or external circumstances being responsible for peoples actions.  It's the left who dismiss bad behavior by rationalizing the cause is external as opposed to a moral failing of the individual.

I dunno... Repub politicans have called for torture and nukes in the past 24 hours.   Are they really in touch?
Repubs in congress wear diapers with hoookers and toe-tap in mens rooms, they're not ousted either.
And the whole "blame obama for everything, consider him an illegal, but still not supporting impeachment" by many in the right shows they don't want to enforce the consitution they're defending.
Toss in the lifetime liberal RINO candidates that "repubs" support, no matter how different their beliefs are...

Well, it's EASY to blame the left, it's EASY to say obama is wrecking america, but we'd have had generation selfie under Bush if everyone had an iPhone back then.  

If it makes things more comfy for you, please, keep blaming the left.  But it's way bigger than blaming democrats.  it's society in general.  If repubs allow diaper-wearing, hooker banging senator vitter to say in office - how in the world can you not include them in the moral bankruptcy?   Epic double standard, man.

[Archer77]

I dunno... Repub politicans have called for torture and nukes in the past 24 hours.   Are they really in touch?
Repubs in congress wear diapers with hoookers and toe-tap in mens rooms, they're not ousted either.
And the whole "blame obama for everything, consider him an illegal, but still not supporting impeachment" by many in the right shows they don't want to enforce the consitution they're defending.
Toss in the lifetime liberal RINO candidates that "repubs" support, no matter how different their beliefs are...

Well, it's EASY to blame the left, it's EASY to say obama is wrecking america, but we'd have had generation selfie under Bush if everyone had an iPhone back then.  

If it makes things more comfy for you, please, keep blaming the left.  But it's way bigger than blaming democrats.  it's society in general.  If repubs allow diaper-wearing, hooker banging senator vitter to say in office - how in the world can you not include them in the moral bankruptcy?   Epic double standard, man.

I'm not blaming the left anymore than they need to be.  The victim mentality is a product of leftist thinking from Rousseau through the sixties and to the present.

[240 is Back]

I'm not blaming the left anymore than they need to be.  The victim mentality is a product of leftist thinking from Rousseau through the sixties and to the present.

i can agree there - in that case, repubs have adopted this entitled mentality too.  OTHERWISE, they would be DEMOLISHING the dems right now.  Turns out, they are too lazy/self-involved/hypocritical angry to change a thing.  Obama COULD be impeached now that repubs have both houses... they don't want it

[Archer77]

i can agree there - in that case, repubs have adopted this entitled mentality too.  OTHERWISE, they would be DEMOLISHING the dems right now.  Turns out, they are too lazy/self-involved/hypocritical angry to change a thing.  Obama COULD be impeached now that repubs have both houses... they don't want it

Consider Marxism, the basis for much of how the left view the world.  Marxism is based almost entirely on the premise of exploitation and suppression of the people by elite groups. When you understand Marxism you understand how the mentality of victim-hood became pervasive through all aspects of leftist ideology from economics to sociology. 

[240 is Back]

Consider Marxism, the basis for much of how the left view the world.  Marxism is based almost entirely on the premise of exploitation and suppression of the people by elite groups. When you understand Marxism you understand how the mentality of victim-hood became pervasive through all aspects of leftist ideology from economics to sociology. 

i would argue that many on the left, and the right, have adopted this victim mentality.

my only problem is just people saying "it's obama's fault" and "the left..." when it's way bigger than that.  Repubs have also turned into these hypocritical whiny bitches.  They refuse to impeach obama - but they say he was born in jenya and not a legit president.  Already, that tells me "i only agree with SOME parts of the constitution".    AND refusing to oust a senator that wore diapers and banged hookers for years?  WTF is that?   If you don't condemn it, you're part of it.   IMO, both parties are generation selfie, both are shady idiots, selfish and weak.

[Archer77]

i would argue that many on the left, and the right, have adopted this victim mentality.

my only problem is just people saying "it's obama's fault" and "the left..." when it's way bigger than that.  Repubs have also turned into these hypocritical whiny bitches.  They refuse to impeach obama - but they say he was born in jenya and not a legit president.  Already, that tells me "i only agree with SOME parts of the constitution".    AND refusing to oust a senator that wore diapers and banged hookers for years?  WTF is that?   If you don't condemn it, you're part of it.   IMO, both parties are generation selfie, both are shady idiots, selfish and weak.

Some on the right have adopted the victim mentality as a reaction to seeing others on the left successfully using victim-hood. However, their success is limited or even nonexistent as they are not part of the accepted protected victim class.

[Man of Steel]

I think it's fairly simple.   A family lost a family member and they're grieving and upset.   People can be irrational in these moments.

[Coach is Back!]

I think it's fairly simple.   A family lost a family member and they're grieving and upset.   People can be irrational in these moments.

I agree with this to an extent. But chances are most who do crimes like this are repeat offenders. At some point there should be some rational thought that hey "if I keep doing this eventually I'm Going to get my head blown off"!

[mr.turbo]

Consider Marxism, the basis for much of how the left view the world.  Marxism is based almost entirely on the premise of exploitation and suppression of the people by elite groups. When you understand Marxism you understand how the mentality of victim-hood became pervasive through all aspects of leftist ideology from economics to sociology. 

yes so is it "leftist marxism" when the banks get bailed out by the taxpayer or perhaps that is that the free market at work? Just trying to understand the terminology here.

[Man of Steel]

I agree with this to an extent. But chances are most who do crimes like this are repeat offenders. At some point there should be some rational thought that hey "if I keep doing this eventually I'm Going to get my head blown off"!

I think that is correct, but I don't think the parents, spouse, siblings, etc...that lost the person that committed the crime would feel that way.  Certainly some would be that rational yet still grieve, but I don't think that attitude represents the majority.

I've seen videos of parents begging and pleading for their son or daughter that just murdered a person or group of people to be shown mercy and charity when a penalty of death loomed in their immediate future.  The notion of justice goes out the window in times of grief and loss....most of us tend to become selfish and irrational if the lives of those we love are threatened (often regardless of the justification for the threat).   

That behavior is irrational (and entertaining for the masses) so it makes headlines.

Do I think that the kid that committed the armed robbery should've been shot to death?  No. 
Do I understand why someone felt they should gun down this armed kid who pointed his gun at the heads of other people?  Yes.
How would I have responded if in the situation?  Don't know.

[Chacka]

Er'body wanna be thuggen, no body wanna get clapped y'all

[Natural Man]

I think that is correct, but I don't think the parents, spouse, siblings, etc...that lost the person that committed the crime would feel that way.  Certainly some would be that rational yet still grieve, but I don't think that attitude represents the majority.

I've seen videos of parents begging and pleading for their son or daughter that just murdered a person or group of people to be shown mercy and charity when a penalty of death loomed in their immediate future.  The notion of justice goes out the window in times of grief and loss....most of us tend to become selfish and irrational if the lives of those we love are threatened (often regardless of the justification for the threat).  

That behavior is irrational (and entertaining for the masses) so it makes headlines.

Do I think that the kid that committed the armed robbery should've been shot to death?  No.  
Do I understand why someone felt they should gun down this armed kid who pointed his gun at the heads of other people?  Yes.
How would I have responded if in the situation? Don't know.

Fixed.


My parents punished me heavily when i was 5 and purposedly stole a toy from another kid. Never stole anything again. His family probably did nothing, excused him or worse, encouraged him to steal one way or another.

[thebrink]

generation selfie.  generation entitlement. 

It isn't one party, one race, one socioeconomic level, or anything else.

it's the entire generation of instant satisfaction, buy-on-credit, sue at the drop of a hat, expect handouts, etc.  Technology and in particular, social media, has turned everything into a series of likes = approval.  Men used to have to go chop down a tree if they wanted satisfaction.  Now they post a selfie and count the likes.  Women used to get a degree and stay in shape for the win... now they can post a cleavage selfie on FB on a Monday night and they get 225 likes in two hours. 

we have to stop blaming a race, a party, or anything like that... it's bigger than that.  It's the mindset of society in general.

X10000!

[Archer77]

yes so is it "leftist marxism" when the banks get bailed out by the taxpayer or perhaps that is that the free market at work? Just trying to understand the terminology here.

What does this have to do with the topic of this thread?