Author Topic: Hi Fat Low Carb - When does the magic happen? (Read 21333 times)

ritch · « **Reply #125 on:** February 24, 2015, 07:49:22 AM »

So OP, are you "unconfused yet?"

LOL at all this overthinking and shit, oh man...

Rammstein · « **Reply #126 on:** February 24, 2015, 07:52:36 AM »

Erik C and Disgusted, could you please outline what you eat and how much?

Thanks.

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Quote from: Rammstein on February 23, 2015, 06:44:25 AM
What's the consensus on building muscle on high fat/low carb?

Of course you can. I've personally done it and many of my clients through out the years have and yes on ZERO carbs!!!

Disgusted, just eat above maintenance calories (12x or higher BW in lbs?) and 70% fat? Thanks.

Thong Maniac · « **Reply #127 on:** February 24, 2015, 05:17:04 PM »

Maintenence at 12 x Body weight just seems insane to me. There is no way that is neutral gain/loss. For me id be a fat fucking mess at 3600 kcals a day

ritch · « **Reply #128 on:** February 24, 2015, 05:17:44 PM »

Quote from: Thong Maniac on February 24, 2015, 05:17:04 PM

Maintenence at 12 x Body weight just seems insane to me. There is no way that is neutral gain/loss. For me id be a fat fucking mess at 3600 kcals a day

Even on gear?

Thong Maniac · « **Reply #129 on:** February 24, 2015, 05:37:12 PM »

Quote from: ritch on February 24, 2015, 05:17:44 PM

Even on gear?

Yeah man, TRT or even just test only cycles, i say no way...well for me personally.

mazrim · « **Reply #130 on:** February 24, 2015, 05:44:52 PM »

You're 300lbs?

Thong Maniac · « **Reply #131 on:** February 24, 2015, 05:48:09 PM »

300lb? The formula is 12-13 x bw (200lb male or so)

Thong Maniac · « **Reply #132 on:** February 24, 2015, 06:41:32 PM »

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=F_UUvYrH0QI

Piana speaks...

mazrim · « **Reply #133 on:** February 24, 2015, 06:47:35 PM »

Quote from: Thong Maniac on February 24, 2015, 05:48:09 PM

300lb? The formula is 12-13 x bw (200lb male or so)

Must have misinterpreted that wrong or something. You said in previous post that 12x bodyweight was a lot then mentioned 3600cals as being way too much so assumed 300x12=3600. I probably missed a post somewhere along the way.

Thong Maniac · « **Reply #134 on:** February 24, 2015, 07:30:51 PM »

Quote from: mazrim on February 24, 2015, 06:47:35 PM

Must have misinterpreted that wrong or something. You said in previous post that 12x bodyweight was a lot then mentioned 3600cals as being way too much so assumed 300x12=3600. I probably missed a post somewhere along the way.

Sorry u were right. I meant 16x18 times bw for maintenence on this diet. Cutting is 12 x bw. The maintenence sounds way to high IMO

Jizmo · « **Reply #135 on:** February 25, 2015, 12:42:04 AM »

the numbers are pretty accurate imo if you train 4-5 times a week, hard and heavy.

gotta take many variables into account: lean mass, workout intensity, AAS/hormones, plus of course if you have an active job

16x200 = 3200 kcals, thats not a high maintenance imo..

i was maintaining natty at 180lbs at 3500 kcals or so and i was completely sedentary (college student) except for working out about 90mins 5 days a week

but i was also maintaining at 3500 years later on a shitton of AAS, t3 and so on when i was only hitting the gym 3 days a week for 60mins

drugs do a lot in that regard, especially tren and t3 (and GH too)

liberty · « **Reply #136 on:** February 25, 2015, 04:10:00 AM »

Jizmo · « **Reply #137 on:** February 25, 2015, 05:49:58 AM »

^ lmao
these are probably milligrams

Rammstein · « **Reply #138 on:** February 25, 2015, 06:29:40 AM »

Thong Maniac · « **Reply #139 on:** February 25, 2015, 06:30:42 AM »

Quote from: Jizmo on February 25, 2015, 12:42:04 AM

the numbers are pretty accurate imo if you train 4-5 times a week, hard and heavy.

gotta take many variables into account: lean mass, workout intensity, AAS/hormones, plus of course if you have an active job

16x200 = 3200 kcals, thats not a high maintenance imo..

i was maintaining natty at 180lbs at 3500 kcals or so and i was completely sedentary (college student) except for working out about 90mins 5 days a week

but i was also maintaining at 3500 years later on a shitton of AAS, t3 and so on when i was only hitting the gym 3 days a week for 60mins

drugs do a lot in that regard, especially tren and t3 (and GH too)

Hmm interesting. Maybe i will do 3200. I do feel like i am tightening up quickly (i look lean in the morning). After a full day of water and food and all that fat my body looks swollen but i wake up trim

mazrim · « **Reply #140 on:** February 25, 2015, 06:45:52 AM »

Quote from: liberty on February 25, 2015, 04:10:00 AM

Wow, that is a monster amount of calories

Disgusted · « **Reply #141 on:** February 25, 2015, 08:36:13 AM »

Quote from: liberty on February 25, 2015, 04:10:00 AM

I'm not sure why a bikini competitor would need to eat 4300 cals per day. She's doing some serious cardio and or T3 clen and GH.

Jizmo · « **Reply #142 on:** February 25, 2015, 11:02:41 AM »

Quote from: Disgusted on February 25, 2015, 08:36:13 AM

I'm not sure why a bikini competitor would need to eat 4300 cals per day. She's doing some serious cardio and or T3 clen and GH.

you can take all the clen and t3 you want and wont even burn half of that as a female with like 60 lbs lean mass lol.

MALE physique competitors are eating HALF OF THAT 6 weeks out.

unless he has strapped her on a treadmill for 12 hours of the day ... hes straight lying and full of shit. thats it.

Disgusted · « **Reply #143 on:** February 25, 2015, 12:01:23 PM »

Quote from: Jizmo on February 25, 2015, 11:02:41 AM

you can take all the clen and t3 you want and wont even burn half of that as a female with like 60 lbs lean mass lol.

MALE physique competitors are eating HALF OF THAT 6 weeks out.

unless he has strapped her on a treadmill for 12 hours of the day ... hes straight lying and full of shit. thats it.

Yep my guess is cardio and gh. Well more than a guess. No way someone eats like that unless doing cardio or drugs. Thing is why?

balas · « **Reply #144 on:** February 25, 2015, 12:04:39 PM »

Quote from: Disgusted on February 17, 2015, 05:26:35 PM

Define magic.

constipation

Thong Maniac · « **Reply #145 on:** February 25, 2015, 12:37:21 PM »

Quote from: Jizmo on February 25, 2015, 11:02:41 AM

you can take all the clen and t3 you want and wont even burn half of that as a female with like 60 lbs lean mass lol.

MALE physique competitors are eating HALF OF THAT 6 weeks out.

unless he has strapped her on a treadmill for 12 hours of the day ... hes straight lying and full of shit. thats it.

Yeah no way in hell. Did pasqual really say that?

Im struggling to hit 3200, and i feel full as shit. 4300 for a woman? Yeah right

Erik C · « **Reply #146 on:** February 25, 2015, 01:00:02 PM »

Quote from: Thong Maniac on February 25, 2015, 12:37:21 PM

Im struggling to hit 3200, and i feel full as shit. 4300 for a woman? Yeah right

You're "struggling" to eat 3200 calories? Seriously? 6 large eggs and a tablespoon of lecithin is over 500 calories. A pint of sour cream with a scoop whey protein isolate is over a 1000 calories. A couple of scoops of whey isolate in heavy cream....as supplements, WTF, and that doesn't include your "regular" high fat and protein, low carb meals! Damn, get that checked!

Thong Maniac · « **Reply #147 on:** February 25, 2015, 01:00:20 PM »

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3xYoFmBnLG4

erick C and Jizz, this guy is saying at 2:45 or so, about the body fat being different than the fat u eat, im confused again

Erik C · « **Reply #148 on:** February 25, 2015, 01:06:02 PM »

Quote from: Thong Maniac on February 25, 2015, 01:00:20 PM

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3xYoFmBnLG4

erick C and Jizz, this guy is saying at 2:45 or so, about the body fat being different than the fat u eat, im confused again

The body fat that you have is the blubber hanging all over your body, that you acquired from eating carbs. The body fat you eat is one of the essentials, along with proteins, that you need to eat to be healthy. Look, if your are going to go for size, then at least do the basic research, of what you are supposed to be doing, nutritionally, to get there.

Erik C · « **Reply #149 on:** February 25, 2015, 01:32:21 PM »

Quote from: Thong Maniac on February 25, 2015, 01:00:20 PM

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3xYoFmBnLG4

And who the fuck is this guy on the video? He looks like the kid in the movie DELIVERANCE, who was sitting on the porch, playing the banjo. I couldn't even understand what he was mumbling.

Author Topic: Hi Fat Low Carb - When does the magic happen? (Read 21333 times)

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