Homophobic human being

[chadstallion]

Accepted or not in society, homosexuality is deviant behaviour.

American Psychological Association (APA)
why not ask the people that study this and have some expertise on the subject.

[Archer77]

American Psychological Association (APA)
why not ask the people that study this and have some expertise on the subject.

On a personal level I don't care what people do.  I don't have a moral objection to homosexuality.  Homosexuals should have the right to enter into property and wealthy sharing contracts just like heterosexuals.  However, the choice by the APA to normalize homosexual behavior was political not scientific.  From a purely biological perspective homosexuality is a deviation from the norm.  This is not a moral judgement but a statement of biological fact.  I'm also not implying that we should make any effort to treat, remove or stigmatize homosexuals.

[Papper]

The question is do homosexuals have a right to adopt children?

[The Ugly]

The question is do homosexuals have a right to adopt children?

Yeah, why not. Until they make it illegal for shitty people to procreate, let a decent gay couple give some unwanted kid a fair shot.

Don't think it's ideal, but surely a lot better than the shitload of unfit mutherfuckers legally squeezing out all they want.

[illuminati]

Yeah, why not. Until they make it illegal for shitty people to procreate, let a decent gay couple give some unwanted kid a fair shot.

Don't think it's ideal, but surely a lot better than the shitload of other unfit mutherfuckers legally squeezing out all they want.

As much as my Thoughts & Feelings Against Queers.

You make some very rational & valid Points.

[Mr.1derful]

I think I remember having this argument back in 1989 on misc.fitness.weights.

The meaning of a word is not necessarily the literal translation of the individual roots of a word. The definition of homophobia is not fear of homosexuals, but bigotry towards homosexuals.  That definitely still exists.  But there is less and less of it each year. It's called progress.

Disagreeing with a lifestyle is not bigotry.

[Primemuscle]

Very good, well done Primemuscle.
You found some studies to back your Lifestyle.

You know as well as I do I can find many to the contrary.
As with virtually an subject there is little total scientific Agreement.

Let's take your Argument / Belief & PRETEND to Agree that it is Normal Behaviour
Because Animals Do it.

So because Some Animals Murder each other,
Some Animals Eat there Offspring, & Each other,
Animals Fcuk there sisters & daughters,
Committing Incest.

These Behaviours Should also be Allowed in Humans
As We Can Easily Find Many Examples of All of The Above.
As it is Also Natural Behaviour.

If that is what you are saying Because Animals Do It
& We are Animals Then Humans Doing The Same Things
Is Totally Normal & Acceptable.
That is The Basis Of Your Belief.

Or is it Just the Fckng A Males Arse you Find Normal
& Acceptable,
To Justify Your Behaviour.

Not The Other Aspects Of Normal Animal Behaviour.

Prisons are Full With People Who Believe There Behaviour is
Acceptable Because Animals Behave Like That.

Majority of Humans Don't that is why they are in Prison.
According to Your Logic Then,
We Should Let Them Out As Its Normal Animala Behaviour.

Now That Would be a Dumb Thing To Do.

There is nothing about my lifestyle that needs defending. Perhaps you are assuming things you don't really know about me. My post was made merely because someone posted that homosexuality does not exist outside of humans, which apparently is not the case. Incidentally, if you can find arguments which are contrary to what I found, please post them. I found none. If you look at the resources you'll notice they are very reliable ones and not ones that would have some gay agenda.

 

[Primemuscle]

There's no homophobic human being. The word " Homophobic" is invalid and qualified FALSE. Homos doesn't induce fear but disgust. I personally never saw someone running in fear of a homo but saw agoraphobic people running in fear when they see an insect.
There's nothing such homophobia.

Perhaps "homos" disgust you and perhaps you don't fear them. Such is not the case for all folks. Anyway, homophobia also means a fear of homosexuality. Some who fear homosexuality, do so because they fear becoming homosexual.

[illuminati]

There is nothing about my lifestyle that needs defending. Perhaps you are assuming things you don't really know about me. My post was made merely because someone posted that homosexuality does not exist outside of humans, which apparently is not the case. Incidentally, if you can find arguments which are contrary to what I found, please post them. I found none. If you look at the resources you'll notice they are very reliable ones and not ones that would have some gay agenda.

 

I am not assuming anything about you.
You have been defending Homosexual activity
As Normal Behaviour.
Posting it is Normal Behaviour In Animals.

You don't address the other types of normal behaviour in animals.
That is why I asked the question.

Is it just the homosexual behaviour you find acceptable & not the
Other normal behaviour of animals.

If so I find that a strange view, picking one aspect as acceptable.
For what reasons.?

Clearly we have very different views & thoughts on this subject.

[TheShape.]

Some who fear homosexuality, do so because they fear becoming homosexual.

Because they're probably in denial.

[The Ugly]

Because they're probably in denial.

Oh, shit. They don't save our their IPs and stuff, do they?

[greeneyes]

The south is full of homos while the north is less affected by this sickness.

[Primemuscle]

I am not assuming anything about you.
You have been defending Homosexual activity
As Normal Behaviour.
Posting it is Normal Behaviour In Animals.

You don't address the other types of normal behaviour in animals.
That is why I asked the question.

Is it just the homosexual behaviour you find acceptable & not the
Other normal behaviour of animals.

If so I find that a strange view, picking one aspect as acceptable.
For what reasons.?

Clearly we have very different views & thoughts on this subject.

You digress. You would also do well to reread what is already posted before you ramble on. For starters, what did you understand about this thread's title? Secondly, the cited information about animal sexual behavior I posted was in direct response to a post on that subject. lastly, show me where I ever stated my personal opinion about what is or isn't acceptable.

You assume to know what my "lifestyle" is when clearly you do not.

I get the impression you are simply trolling here. You are intensely tiresome.

[illuminati]

You digress. You would also do well to reread what is already posted before you ramble on. For starters, what did you understand about this thread's title? Secondly, the cited information about animal sexual behavior I posted was in direct response to a post on that subject. lastly, show me where I ever stated my personal opinion about what is or isn't acceptable.

You assume to know what my "lifestyle" is when clearly you do not.

I get the impression you are simply trolling here. You are intensely tiresome.

I am far from trolling.
As for being tiresome and assuming things Take A Good Look at Your Self.
Before calling others.
I also have digressed as much as you have.

I take it you have lost the argument as you have to resort to name calling.

Yet again you fail to answer the question.

As for your lifestyle From what few things I have picked up on here,
*And I Could Be Completely Wrong*
Have you not said that you are Bi-sexual having had relationships
With Men Previously, and that you are long time married to your wife.
As I said I could be completely wrong.
I don't intend to trawl through endless posts to check.

End of Discussion.
Peace.

[SuperTed]

I don't really have much issue with homosexuals. It's something that has always existed and always will exist. Not to mention that what two consenting adults get up to in their own bedrooms isn't any of my business.
Having said all that, I still just can't accept it as being natural and will always consider it a sexual deviation/perversion.

I've also never understood the idea of "Gay Pride". Are gay people actually sincerely proud of being gay? I'm sure, given the choice, they would much rather be heterosexuals. Therefore, the whole thing just comes across as being fake.

[illuminati]

I don't really have much issue with homosexuals. It's something that has always existed and always will exist. Not to mention that what two consenting adults get up to in their own bedrooms isn't any of my business.
Having said all that, I still just can't accept it as being natural and will always consider it a sexual deviation/perversion.

I've also never understood the idea of "Gay Pride". Are gay people actually sincerely proud of being gay? I'm sure, given the choice, they would much rather be heterosexuals. Therefore, the whole thing just comes across as being fake.

Well said, you make some good points.
Do they really like to be queer, or is it
Like the obese people who Love to be Fat,
But would jump at the chance of taking a magic
Pill to get themselves slim.

Heterosexual Pride..

One good point the more queers out there
The more women it leaves for us Heterosexuals.   

[Primemuscle]

I am far from trolling.
As for being tiresome and assuming things Take A Good Look at Your Self.
Before calling others.
I also have digressed as much as you have.

I take it you have lost the argument as you have to resort to name calling.

Yet again you fail to answer the question.

As for your lifestyle From what few things I have picked up on here,
*And I Could Be Completely Wrong*
Have you not said that you are Bi-sexual having had relationships
With Men Previously, and that you are long time married to your wife.
As I said I could be completely wrong.
I don't intend to trawl through endless posts to check.

End of Discussion.
Peace.

I'm responding for a couple of reasons. You are right in that I am probably more tiresome then some although I try not to assume anything about anyone....this is something one learns from experience because assumptions are often wrong anyway. Unfortunately, internet communications can be lacking in that what people read in a post and what people write are not always the same.

My original post about sexual behavior in the animal kingdom was in response to Wigg's post about what is or isn't natural in among other animals. We are humans and humans have a lot of things influencing their behavior that other animals do not. I'm not about to compare myself to a cutworm, for example. I may not be the brightest guy on the planet, but I have a lot more going on then a cutworm. Wigg's digressed and I fell into it. But then, so did you when you jumped in on the conversation.....and yes, I am being tiresome. I am a detail person, if you haven't noticed.

Another reason I am responding is because the reference to "my lifestyle" is misleading in terms of timeline although probably not intentionally on your part. If you've followed my posts on Getbig, then you know I am 70 years old and have been married to the same woman for over 50 years. We dated for two years prior to marrying. So clearly, I have been with one woman my entire adult life. We raised two children and have four grandchildren. My wife has been seriously ill for more than a decade. In fact she is presently in the hospital. I am her primary caregiver. This is my lifestyle these days and has been for some time.

When I was a teenager and a younger adult I enjoyed/experimented sexually with other guys. I have no regrets regarding this. If I'd not met my wife, married and had kids, I know in my heart that I could have just as easily had a long term, loving relationship with another fellow. I still find both men and women sexually attractive although I have no desire to act on this at this time. If I were single and available, then I might be saying something different. To my way of thinking, this makes me bisexual. It is not like there are a lot of people out there looking to hook up with an old man of modest means anyway....if I were a rich man??? LOL!

If you feel you need to judge me for what I've lived, have at it. It won't change how I feel about myself and how those who love me feel about me. I am a good person most of the time. I am at peace with myself. That's kind of important when you get to be my age....just so you know.

Anyway, you and I have had more productive and positive conversations in other threads. I think we should just call it good and agree to disagree or whatever works regarding the topic of this thread. I long ago gave up the idea of changing people's minds about certain topics. Cool?

[The Abdominal Snoman]

[illuminati]

I'm responding for a couple of reasons. You are right in that I am probably more tiresome then some although I try not to assume anything about anyone....this is something one learns from experience because assumptions are often wrong anyway. Unfortunately, internet communications can be lacking in that what people read in a post and what people write are not always the same.

My original post about sexual behavior in the animal kingdom was in response to Wigg's post about what is or isn't natural in among other animals. We are humans and humans have a lot of things influencing their behavior that other animals do not. I'm not about to compare myself to a cutworm, for example. I may not be the brightest guy on the planet, but I have a lot more going on then a cutworm. Wigg's digressed and I fell into it. But then, so did you when you jumped in on the conversation.....and yes, I am being tiresome. I am a detail person, if you haven't noticed.

Another reason I am responding is because the reference to "my lifestyle" is misleading in terms of timeline although probably not intentionally on your part. If you've followed my posts on Getbig, then you know I am 70 years old and have been married to the same woman for over 50 years. We dated for two years prior to marrying. So clearly, I have been with one woman my entire adult life. We raised two children and have four grandchildren. My wife has been seriously ill for more than a decade. In fact she is presently in the hospital. I am her primary caregiver. This is my lifestyle these days and has been for some time.

When I was a teenager and a younger adult I enjoyed/experimented sexually with other guys. I have no regrets regarding this. If I'd not met my wife, married and had kids, I know in my heart that I could have just as easily had a long term, loving relationship with another fellow. I still find both men and women sexually attractive although I have no desire to act on this at this time. If I were single and available, then I might be saying something different. To my way of thinking, this makes me bisexual. It is not like there are a lot of people out there looking to hook up with an old man of modest means anyway....if I were a rich man??? LOL!

If you feel you need to judge me for what I've lived, have at it. It won't change how I feel about myself and how those who love me feel about me. I am a good person most of the time. I am at peace with myself. That's kind of important when you get to be my age....just so you know.

Anyway, you and I have had more productive and positive conversations in other threads. I think we should just call it good and agree to disagree or whatever works regarding the topic of this thread. I long ago gave up the idea of changing people's minds about certain topics. Cool?

I am not Judging you. I am I no position to judge.
I am free to get involved in the topics on here as you are
The topic of animal behaviour & human behaviour came up
And it's a subject I'm very qualified in.
We as human's are a Species of animal that most forget but
Would do well to remember.

As for your lifestyle, again who am I to judge.
Also I know very little of it only what you have posted,
I take it as being the truth,.
only just like me & all others on
Here we could all be lying & making things up.
Hmmmm well some clearly are & do.

Your age is not that bigger gap from mine don't see how that has
Much relevance.
It's not good to hear your wife is unwell health wise, it is difficult
And tiring / stressful caring & doing your best for a Very much loved one.
My youngest is constantly in & out of hospital for the last 12yrs
Since he was born.
The more he is ill & has to go to hospital the
Greater the chances become of it being fatal.

I'm sure you are a good a person as you can be.

Wish your wife be well soon.

[Primemuscle]

The topic of animal behaviour & human behaviour came up
And it's a subject I'm very qualified in.

Thanks for your reply. I appreciate your thoughtfulness.

Conversing on the topic of animal behavior reminded me of a funny thing two of our dogs do (we have 4 dogs total). Lucy is an 18 lb. Rat Terrier. Her longtime buddy Danny is an 80 lb Lab and Irish Wolfhound. Every so often Lucy will climb up on Danny's back while he is laying down and hump him on his neck. Since both pups are fixed, I suspect this action isn't so much sexually based as it is just something that Lucy enjoys. As for Dan, he couldn't be less interested.

My wife and I react to our dogs little shenanigan by telling Lucy to "stop it" as if she was doing something wrong. She does stop of course because she's responsive to the tone of our voices. It is funny how we humans read things into what other animals do as if they were simply human traits.

I think we learn a lot from our pets just as they learn a lot from us.

[illuminati]

Thanks for your reply. I appreciate your thoughtfulness.

Conversing on the topic of animal behavior reminded me of a funny thing two of our dogs do (we have 4 dogs total). Lucy is an 18 lb. Rat Terrier. Her longtime buddy Danny is an 80 lb Lab and Irish Wolfhound. Every so often Lucy will climb up on Danny's back while he is laying down and hump him on his neck. Since both pups are fixed, I suspect this action isn't so much sexually based as it is just something that Lucy enjoys. As for Dan, he couldn't be less interested.

My wife and I react to our dogs little shenanigan by telling Lucy to "stop it" as if she was doing something wrong. She does stop of course because she's responsive to the tone of our voices. It is funny how we humans read things into what other animals do as if they were simply human traits.

I think we learn a lot from our pets just as they learn a lot from us.

Ha, that is a similar tale to our 2 dogs.
Suki is a Big Dalmatian & Frankie is a miniature Dachsund
And yes Frankie Managed to get Suki Pregnant.!!!
There were no steps or low chairs left out in the dog area.
Surely a testament to sheer determination & will power..Ha

They were some very strange looking pups.
Our postman had one of them pups still
See him going for a walk.

Yes a lot to learn from animals & from our own animal nature
That we constantly seem to forget or fight against.

[_bruce_]

getbig aka Gaylord Detention Center 

[Primemuscle]

Ha, that is a similar tale to our 2 dogs.
Suki is a Big Dalmatian & Frankie is a miniature Dachsund
And yes Frankie Managed to get Suki Pregnant.!!!
There were no steps or low chairs left out in the dog area.
Surely a testament to sheer determination & will power..Ha

They were some very strange looking pups.
Our postman had one of them pups still
See him going for a walk.

Yes a lot to learn from animals & from our own animal nature
That we constantly seem to forget or fight against.

Pet dogs have been a part of my entire life. My mom loved dogs too. They are such amazing animals. All that unconditional love. We humans could learn a thing or two from them if we'd just pay attention.

Lucy weighed 7 pounds when I bought her home from the pet shop. Danny was already full grown. I worried he'd accidentally crush her just playing with her. He was always so gentle with her. I have some great photos of them together.

My wife didn't want another dog, so Lucy became my total responsibility. To insure I would know when she needed to go potty during the night, she slept under the covers in my arms like a baby. I took her to work with me everyday so my wife would not have to be bothered with her. Lucy still likes to climb in bed and snuggle up against the warmth of a human body. These days, she snuggles as much with my wife as with me. Thank goodness Dan sleeps outside the covers. Weighing 80 lbs, he is like having a preteen in bed with us and he is a total bed hog.

Our daughter's two dogs mostly hang with my daughter and her husband upstairs. On rare occasion, they will sneak into our bedroom and jump on our bed. Four dogs and two humans in one king-size bed is just a bit too much. Cooper is Johnny on the spot whenever he smells my morning yogurt. He loves those probiotics. Madison is a Boarder Collie. She is really smart but often kind of aloof. Each of the four dogs in our house hold have a distinct personality.

[illuminati]

Pet dogs have been a part of my entire life. My mom loved dogs too. They are such amazing animals. All that unconditional love. We humans could learn a thing or two from them if we'd just pay attention.

Lucy weighed 7 pounds when I bought her home from the pet shop. Danny was already full grown. I worried he'd accidentally crush her just playing with her. He was always so gentle with her. I have some great photos of them together.

My wife didn't want another dog, so Lucy became my total responsibility. To insure I would know when she needed to go potty during the night, she slept under the covers in my arms like a baby. I took her to work with me everyday so my wife would not have to be bothered with her. Lucy still likes to climb in bed and snuggle up against the warmth of a human body. These days, she snuggles as much with my wife as with me. Thank goodness Dan sleeps outside the covers. Weighing 80 lbs, he is like having a preteen in bed with us and he is a total bed hog.

Our daughter's two dogs mostly hang with my daughter and her husband upstairs. On rare occasion, they will sneak into our bedroom and jump on our bed. Four dogs and two humans in one king-size bed is just a bit too much. Cooper is Johnny on the spot whenever he smells my morning yogurt. He loves those probiotics. Madison is a Boarder Collie. She is really smart but often kind of aloof. Each of the four dogs in our house hold have a distinct personality.

Wooo 4dogs 2 humans 1 bed...that's a tight squeeze & probably very warm.
Or a huge big bed.
Lots of walking needed there, all good for overall health / fitness.

Yes a lot of unconditional love.

A friend said to me. Try this.
Get your Dog & Your woman & lock them both in the Boot Of your car.
Come back in a couple of hours....
And see which one is pleased as punch & jumping all over you
When you let them out.!!!

Hmmm I value certain parts of my anatomy too much to try That.

[rocco-x]

What I can't understand is the fact for those of us who denounce gay marriage,are tired of freaks like Bruce Jenner n his sex change being forced upon us on every TV network...we're called homophobes,bigots,racists...why?

 I have the right to voice my opinions, not beliefs,against homo activity.I had two gay uncles that died from aids,a female lesbo cousin n close close friend from childhood who's married in Florida n yes I love them all...buuut I will not allow any of them to stay over in my place with their partners,husbands,wives whatever due to my belief it's disgusting.

 Try to explain to a child why during the freak homo parade every year some dude's in assless chaps,leather hat,no shirt whipping some guy wearing a frigging diaper cause he can't hold his mud from years of getting ass plowed or some 300lb behemoth bull dyke dressed like a guy to erase any sign of womanhood,licking some other freak but demand to be treated like a lady lol?

Yet we that stand up are told don't like it don't watch it...how when it's all over the media public and social?I don't hate nor fear nor have hidden deep desires to be a fruitcake.I just believe what they get away with is too much now.we've now got every judge scared to death of speaking against gay marriage either cause skeletons of homos in their own closest or for the vote factor...
   Homophobic...I think not.realist yes.