Pffft...Kai is a fucking pervert. If you wish to downplay his perverse proclivities via the above testimonial, fine and dandy. I don't give an aerial intercourse if he had a come to hoMohammed moment on behalf of Big Ramy. Geee, how swell of Kai. Yes it was nice but that doesn't change my disgust for his weirdass antics on and off the dais.
If speaking what I hold true is a "fetish" then you had best buy another dictionary, my friend. I think its great that Kai has NEVER won the schmOelympia but it is even better than Ramy did win because he deserved that win. And Kai? Kai masturbated with the help of a gRapeFruit! LOL! As for being "nice". Plenty of pedophiles are "nice" in public. Same with murderers. Same with "swingers". Same with thieves. Same with ANYONE in porn. Gross. I could go on but I trust you get my meaning.
There was bodybuilding prior to drugs It was called "Physical Culture". The syringe is long out of Pandora's Box and stuck in the ass of some under-achieving wussy about to claim "natural but gifted" to the world via YouTube, but that doesn't mean I have to think a bloated pig is something to be admired. I would wager that the vast majority of today's lifters would be tiny tits without the drugs. They wouldn't even lift without them.
"Weird fetish fantasy"? LOL! Bodybuilders, competitive and even some not so competitive are among the laziest beings on the Earth. I've been around several decades and seen them at contests and in gyms. Few are industrious men. I suppose if having a Faps Only site is industrious, then yeah, they're hard(on) workers(jerkers).
And the truth of my words is born out by the actions of Kai and his kaind. LOL!
Kai is a pervert, eh? Unlike you, I am far, far more concerned about what people do to others than what they do for themselves. There some exceptions of course but do you think he is the only one who has jacked off or humped a fruit? God knows what you have done behind closed doors.
And I don't need a dictionary. I know what a fetish is. It's no coincidence that with virtually every single mention of a pro bber you immediately go to homosexual imagery. You are often quite descriptive and eloquent as you describe the various sexual acts you fantasize about them doing. It's a Pavlovian response. Bber = gay sex and imagery. You feint disgust yet here you are taking it all in and treating us to your latest gay fantasy. There's more going on with your sexual conflicts you struggle with regarding modern bbing.
It is quite true that being nice does not in and of itself inspire moral rectitude nor does it imply base perversion and immorality.
It is a positive standalone trait that is morally neutral.
Again, like a few here, you cry about the use of PEDS. Something that is used in virtually, if not every activity, requiring physical strength. I recently read that a chess player was caught using PEDS. But if you think that it's drugs that will guarantee and champion than you are quite naive. And, of course, any bber that stops using hormones will shrink. But they will shrink if they stopped lifting or eating. Many are not physically gifted in that they can build muscle no matter how hard they train. They see others more genetically gifted that don't put in half the effort that they do.
So what are they to do? Just say tough luck and hope for better parents in the next life. No, they are going to try and even the score and use unnaturally what they were denied naturally. No skin off my nose. It doesn't affect me one iota so I don't give it a second thought. I take testosterone to make up for the deficiency all experience as you get older. I have only one life and I want to make the most of it. I don't feel I am cheating or breaking any rules as there are no rules to break or cheat on. I don't revere nature and being natural as most claim they do. Virtually everything you do or have is not natural and we are combatting nature constantly. Look at the unnatural roof over your head and the air conditioner or heater going. You think squatting with 300 lbs resting on your shoulders natural?
You seem to be quite concerned about what others do even if it has no effect on you. Though you will deny it, this is the classic symptom of jealousy. Pure jealousy. You failed at achieving your goals so the only alternative is to bring others down.
I agree that a lot of bbers are self-indulgent, narcissists, and are extremely lazy, though I sometimes wonder if going to the gym every day putting your body through such effort and pain can be considered lazy. If not wanting to work a regular job is lazy then so be it. But not everyone wants the life they were brainwashed to have in which you work day in, day out, punching a clock for decades making someone else rich while you hope you can save enough to finally live your life on your terms in retirement with an old and broken body. But the fact is, that there are lazy people in all walks of life. People are naturally lazy. If someone just got a no-strings-attached check in the mail that affords them a comfortable but not luxurious living do you think they will do anything productive with all that free time? No, most will just live day to day, whiling away the hours loafing around. Watching TV, taking afternoon naps, porn, ruining lives through the internet like Josh use to do, sitting on GetBig day and night commenting on every single post, and plagiarising Google like Prime does. Soon you lose track of what day it is, what day of the week, and even what time it is.
Scott, I know you, and most others, take personal offense at disagreement. I am often deemed combative because I express my disagreement in direct, pull-no-punches, responses. It is certainly not personal and I only resort to ad hominem personal insult when it is directed at me. I certainly don't take personal offense when someone disagrees with me and always up for a lively debate.