It's ok the test E leaves some pip when i pin in quads and it's not enough to effect leg training but it's present and noticeable dbol seems to b ok mayb little under dosed or inconsistent som days I'll pop 40mgs pre workout and just blow up nasty swole and strong others not so much could b diet issue though. My buddy got rid of all his and is changing over to sigma gear so the blood work won't show this particular brands potency