Vince B made Teutonic Knight and Hurricane look like complete morons.

[The True Adonis]

Arnold was arrested by the FBI and Paul took the fall? 

http://www.starkcenter.org/static/igh/articles/igh11.1.4.pdf

[devilsmile]

I found this from 1980, ALL PHOTOS taken by Vince Basile.

Nov 28, 1980 - This shot by photographer Vince Basile showing the backs of Arnold Schwarzenegger, Chris Dickerson and Frank Zane bears testament to the fact that although ...

http://www.starkcenter.org/static/igh/articles/igh11.1.4.pdf

wow, did he really show off the backs of those men? He's a real heroe! With that experience alone he should do speeches to suffering homing iraq war veterans.

[andreisdaman]

Vince saw Arnold once having a burger in 1966. After some hesitation, he went to talk to him about his mr.canada win. After 30 minute's Vince asks Arnold what he did today.
     Arnold answered; chest and biceps. Vince's jaw dropped through the floor and said; "No way!".Then Arnold says "Yes, way" and then proceeded to show his newest protein powder supplement.
     Vince blushed, and he asked Arnold; "Is there any way you could stand next to me to my right, holding that jar with your right hand and holding your left hand around my shoulders as if I was important, your friend, interesting, cool, awesome.. as if I was your mentor... and SMILE, big smiles, ok?". Arnold then says; "Fine."

As they take a spot and position themselves correctly, Vince tells Arnold; "And don't do any thumps up poses, that doesn't really come up untill the beginning of the 21st century from which a slow death creeps over the bodybuilding industry".
      With emotionless face Arnold just stares Vince as he continues to explain; "I'm actually stuck in some kind of.. time travel loop, if you will. I come here every time at the same time, I gather evidence for the ignorant people who don't believe me that we... you and me Arnold.. we actually made history!"

This is actually funny...but im sure the time travel aspect and how Vince tries to shape his own future to make himself more important in the history of bodybuilding is lost on some people

[Vince B]

You don`t believe that those pictures of his apartment with him standing in the apartment are real?

You don`t believe that is Vince standing there with Arnold?  You don`t believe that Vince attended any bodybuilding show held in Australia despite others verifying that he was there?

At some point the evidence does tip the scale and in this case, it clearly has.  I have never found a single lie from Vince. 

Thanks, TA, for your support. Some here are going to extreme lengths to prove that I lie and exaggerate. Nope, I tell it like it is without exaggerations or fabrications.

If people can put doubt in others that I exaggerate or lie about where I lived then I might also lie about other things. These doubters fail on all counts. Arnold or his lawyers have

never contacted me about stories I posted. Never. Arnold never challenged me on how tall I measured him in Mits Gym in 1969. 6 feet, 1 and 1/2 inches.

Wikipedia states that penthouses are the top floor unit in a block of apartments. Usually they have luxurious appointments and a great view.

That is what our unit was called and that is what we bought.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penthouse_apartment

[devilsmile]

Thanks, TA, for your support. Some here are going to extreme lengths to prove that I lie and exaggerate. Nope, I tell it like it is without exaggerations or fabrications.

If people can put doubt in others that I exaggerate or lie about where I lived then I might also lie about other things. These doubters fail on all counts. Arnold or his lawyers have

never contacted me about stories I posted. Never. Arnold never challenged me on how tall I measured him in Mits Gym in 1969. 6 feet, 1 and 1/2 inches.

Wikipedia states that penthouses are the top floor unit in a block of apartments. Usually they have luxurious appointments and a great view.

That is what our unit was called and that is what we bought.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penthouse_apartment

Not believing you was never the case, it was a joke that was used over and over. You bought it like someone would buy sand from the beach. You're insane.

[The True Adonis]

Thanks, TA, for your support. Some here are going to extreme lengths to prove that I lie and exaggerate. Nope, I tell it like it is without exaggerations or fabrications.

If people can put doubt in others that I exaggerate or lie about where I lived then I might also lie about other things. These doubters fail on all counts. Arnold or his lawyers have

never contacted me about stories I posted. Never. Arnold never challenged me on how tall I measured him in Mits Gym in 1969. 6 feet, 1 and 1/2 inches.

Wikipedia states that penthouses are the top floor unit in a block of apartments. Usually they have luxurious appointments and a great view.

That is what our unit was called and that is what we bought.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penthouse_apartment

No problem Vince.  I get tired of seeing the stream of nonsense that is leveled unfairly towards you.  I have always valued your posts, intelligence and your overall curiosity of the universe.

The times you were with Arnold, what were the conversations mainly about?  Surely bodybuilding can`t be talked about the entire time. 

[Vince B]

Arnold was arrested by the FBI and Paul took the fall?  

http://www.starkcenter.org/static/igh/articles/igh11.1.4.pdf

I never spoke to John Fair or gave him permission to use my photos. He quotes me re the judging at the

1980 Olympia and makes a false statement about what I said.

I was standing in the Opera House before the judging started that day and was chatting to Peter McCarthy and Frank Burwash.

Someone came up to Peter and told him the judges meeting had already started. Peter swore and ran to the meeting. He was

upset that he wasn't notified about the start of the meeting. Later we found out that because he had missed most of the meeting

he couldn't judge except as an alternate judge in case another judge was removed. Peter, who had won Mr Australia more than

once and other top contests in Australia was replaced by young Brendan Ryan who had won a couple of junior contests. When

Brendan visited LA he stayed at Arnold's place according to my mate Nailon. Brendan placed Arnold first in every round and the

posedown. He separated the bodybuilders so his score carried more weight than most. McCarthy voted for Dickerson in each

round and if you include his scores and omit Ryan's you end up with a much closer contest. I don't know if the outcome would

be any different because Arnold looked bigger than Chris on stage and during the posedown. So Arnold would have won the posedown

and earned enough points to overcome any deficit during the judging.

I had stories published in a few magazines. I wrote a story about the judging but Peary Rader wouldn't publish it. No publisher would.

I eventually gave the article to Mike Mentzer in 1991 when I spoke with him at Golds Venice. I was staying with Ray Mentzer in

Torrance. Ray and Kathy and their daughter Dagnie stayed at my place for months when he lived in Sydney. I introduced Ray to

Pam who he married but they eventually divorced. She was there in 1991.

Recently I spoke with Randy Roach who is writing another book about bodybuilding and this time the 1980 Mr Olympia. Should be

interesting.

Peter McCarthy is standing behind Mike so was at the judges meeting. He should have been the judge from Australia.

[Vince B]

No problem Vince.  I get tired of seeing the stream of nonsense that is leveled unfairly towards you.  I have always valued your posts, intelligence and your overall curiosity of the universe.

The times you were with Arnold, what were the conversations mainly about?  Surely bodybuilding can`t be talked about the entire time.  

I never hung out socially with Arnold. I talked to him a bit when I trained at Golds Gym. I found out he fancied big gals but wouldn't be seen with them at the beach. Very political, our Arnold.

We had him at our gym in 1974 to pose and give a seminar. Cost us $500 but we lost money because Paul Graham gave us only a couple days notice so we couldn't advertise it.

I interviewed Arnold before he posed. I knew he drove a BMW and had an expensive home near or on the beach. I got him to reveal a few things the audience enjoyed hearing.

When he was warming up to pose we had a couple of our junior bodybuilders pose both as a contrast and to fill the time Arnold needed to get a pump. The guy was huge.

After posing he came out and showed us exercises. He demonstrated how he did curls and how Sergio cheated. Tell the truth his style didn't look much different! Clearly, Arnold

had a good sense of humour and knew how to entertain everyone. He even stood on a wooden block to do rows. We called that Arnold's block afterwards.

Arnold met up with us after he posed at Tony's Gym. Nailon took one of Arnold's most famous shots that night. Someone took a flash photo from a different angle and Robert

got a winner in that shot. Arnold and his group came over to our top floor apartment after that. He was impressed when he stood on the balcony overlooking Manly Beach from

15 floors up. I recall that he said, "Very nice." He sat on a chair in our lounge room and we all had T-bone steaks. I don't know how Roz had so many to cook for the guests.

In the meantime, several of the guests sat around Arnold in chairs or on the floor. Robert Nailon was there. So was John Medlin. Graham Martin from our gym was another.

I think Tony Benn was there as well. I asked Arnold how he pronounced his last name. Schwarzen - eggar not neggar he insisted in his strong accent. I asked him about Sergio

Oliva. He confessed that had he been Sergio he would have won the times they competed. That was a surprise to hear from the Oak. When I asked about Sergio at first

Arnold said he was a pig. Same with Robby Robinson, Chris Dickerson, Bill Grant and a few more black bodybuilders. We all knew Arnold was racist because this shocked us.

I told him he was racially prejudiced. He denied any such thing and quipped that he just didn't like any of doze guys! We talked about who should have won various Olympias

and he said whoever lost always claimed the contests were fixed. Franco and Sergio and Mike and everyone else who came second said that. I immediately questioned him about the

time Frank Zane beat him in a contest in Miami in 1968. "That contest was fixed!" insisted Arnold. I told Arnold he didn't look like a movie star so he wasn't going to be as

famous as Steve Reeves was when he played Hercules. Arnold told me he liked when people said that because it made him try harder!

Shortly afterwards Arnold got up and we assumed he went to the bathroom. He seemed to be gone a long time while we waited.

Then the parents of one of our babysitters asked me if I had seen their daughter. Nope. Nailon, 'The Brain' as he is called, jumped

up and headed down the corridor of our apartment. He returned moments later with a shocking story.......

[Vince B]

Here is the great photo Robert took of Arnold that night.

[Teutonic Knight]

what is your point?

This NSW Government departments keep records of all land titles/properties , like Manly beach "Penthouses" owners names 

& is for free , by net A$ 12

Easy way to get anyone residential address 

They don't care who or why is asking for those information's.

Another NSW Government office have record of all business owners (like gym's) , company directors  also for free .

[Teutonic Knight]

Wikipedia states that penthouses are the top floor unit in a block of apartments. Usually they have luxurious appointments and a great view.

That is what our unit was called and that is what we bought.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penthouse_apartment

Why U a so STUPID, Wikipedia is NOT NSW Government department 



Amen 

[The True Adonis]

Why U a so STUPID, Wikipedia is NOT NSW Government department 



Amen 

So now your argument is that Vince lived there, but its not considered a "Penthouse" apartment? 

Really?  Is that it?

[andreisdaman]

I never hung out socially with Arnold. I talked to him a bit when I trained at Golds Gym. I found out he fancied big gals but wouldn't be seen with them at the beach. Very political, our Arnold.

We had him at our gym in 1974 to pose and give a seminar. Cost us $500 but we lost money because Paul Graham gave us only a couple days notice so we couldn't advertise it.

I interviewed Arnold before he posed. I knew he drove a BMW and had an expensive home near or on the beach. I got him to reveal a few things the audience enjoyed hearing.

When he was warming up to pose we had a couple of our junior bodybuilders pose both as a contrast and to fill the time Arnold needed to get a pump. The guy was huge.

After posing he came out and showed us exercises. He demonstrated how he did curls and how Sergio cheated. Tell the truth his style didn't look much different! Clearly, Arnold

had a good sense of humour and knew how to entertain everyone. He even stood on a wooden block to do rows. We called that Arnold's block afterwards.

Arnold met up with us after he posed at Tony's Gym. Nailon took one of Arnold's most famous shots that night. Someone took a flash photo from a different angle and Robert

got a winner in that shot. Arnold and his group came over to our top floor apartment after that. He was impressed when he stood on the balcony overlooking Manly Beach from

15 floors up. I recall that he said, "Very nice." He sat on a chair in our lounge room and we all had T-bone steaks. I don't know how Roz had so many to cook for the guests.

In the meantime, several of the guests sat around Arnold in chairs or on the floor. Robert Nailon was there. So was John Medlin. Graham Martin from our gym was another.

I think Tony Benn was there as well. I asked Arnold how he pronounced his last name. Schwarzen - eggar not neggar he insisted in his strong accent. I asked him about Sergio

Oliva. He confessed that had he been Sergio he would have won the times they competed. That was a surprise to hear from the Oak. When I asked about Sergio at first

Arnold said he was a pig. Same with Robby Robinson, Chris Dickerson, Bill Grant and a few more black bodybuilders. We all knew Arnold was racist because this shocked us.

I told him he was racially prejudiced. He denied any such thing and quipped that he just didn't like any of doze guys! We talked about who should have won various Olympias

and he said whoever lost always claimed the contests were fixed. Franco and Sergio and Mike and everyone else who came second said that. I immediately questioned him about the

time Frank Zane beat him in a contest in Miami in 1968. "That contest was fixed!" insisted Arnold. I told Arnold he didn't look like a movie star so he wasn't going to be as

famous as Steve Reeves was when he played Hercules. Arnold told me he liked when people said that because it made him try harder!

Shortly afterwards Arnold got up and we assumed he went to the bathroom. He seemed to be gone a long time while we waited.

Then the parents of one of our babysitters asked me if I had seen their daughter. Nope. Nailon, 'The Brain' as he is called, jumped

up and headed down the corridor of our apartment. He returned moments later with a shocking story.......

and just what was this shocking story Vince?

[Hurricane Beef !]

So now your argument is that Vince lived there, but its not considered a "Penthouse" apartment? 

Really?  Is that it?

Now be careful Knight . . . this cat has owned quite a few exotics in his day.

THE BEEF

[Teutonic Knight]

FACT: Paul Graham was 1 who organized AU tours of all big BB names, they would have seminars in many local gyms.

Fact 2: His place was far behind Paul Graham gym or City gym or Broadway gym , etc ,....................

Hey Vince, still no images from Ubba Mr.Olympia 1980 like location,pre judging,trophy presentation, etc,.......

oh, I forgot who was 2nd & 3rd at YOURS contest   can U post images of C.Dickerson with that "magnificent'' trophy  

AMEN  

[The Abdominal Snoman]

and just what was this shocking story Vince?

That Arnold hired a few Moon cricket brews to rob Vince's apartment when Vince was sitting in a circle all gaga over a couple dudes with some muscle...

[Vince B]

and just what was this shocking story Vince?

The episode with the babysitter. No further details will be posted here.

[andreisdaman]

The episode with the babysitter. No further details will be posted here.

okay..just tell us how old was said babysitter???..we'll fill in our own details

[The Abdominal Snoman]

[The Abdominal Snoman]

okay..just tell us how old was said babysitter???..we'll fill in our own details

[Harry Spotter]

FACT: Paul Graham was 1 who organized AU tours of all big BB names, they would have seminars in many local gyms.

Fact 2: His place was far behind Paul Graham gym or City gym or Broadway gym , etc ,....................

Hey Vince, still no images from Ubba Mr.Olympia 1980 like location,pre judging,trophy presentation, etc,.......

oh, I forgot who was 2nd & 3rd at YOURS contest   can U post images of C.Dickerson with that "magnificent'' trophy  

AMEN  

You seem like the type of guy whose father touched you in all the wrong places, "Autistic knight"

[Teutonic Knight]

Iron Age was great website, with many big names from old AAU champs to today BB, then Vince started with his BS about Arnold.
People from Weiders Magz were informed, VB was banned & Iron Age is gone.

He is now repeating his stinking BS on this website. Time for Big Boss Ron to step in before is too late.

[andreisdaman]

you're amazing!!!..good job...this is hilarious

[andreisdaman]

okay Vince ..don't tell us the story..just tell us

1,  how old was the babysitter?

2. was Arnold arrested?

3. were you also arrested for facilitation?

[chaos]

How does taking pics of Arnold confirm Vinces story of Arnold forcing himself on an underage girl
You're really stretching here, Adonis.