Damn, that Empire show on Fox is bananas!!!

[BB]

Why do you guys have channels Starz Black and BET? Sometimes I feel that black people segregate themselves.

Smart People like Morgan Freeman do not want specific months, or specific channels "set aside" for them.

You would never hear the end of it, if the WET (not a porn channel, white entertainment t.v.) network ever came out.

BET comes as standard, with cable around here. I don't mind it, They were pretty good at picking re-runs and B-movies.

[King Shizzo]

BET comes as standard, with cable around here. I don't mind it, They were pretty good at picking re-runs and B-movies.

Its the concept that bothers me.

Is it too far to suggest that it is reverse racism?

[BB]

Its the concept that bothers me.

Is it too far to suggest that it is reverse racism?

Ah, there are big things to be annoyed about. I sort of understand why they want their own station, especially when it was  first developed in the early 80's. And it's lost most, if not all of any militancy it once had. I don't find it more offensive than the 20+ spanish stations, or the 2 Polish, or the 5+ plus Asian ones.

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Why do you guys have channels Starz Black and BET? Sometimes I feel that black people segregate themselves.

Smart People like Morgan Freeman do not want specific months, or specific channels "set aside" for them.

You would never hear the end of it, if the WET (not a porn channel, white entertainment t.v.) network ever came out.

BET is owned by Viacom you big dummy.  It comes as a cable package with everything else they own

[King Shizzo]

BET is owned by Viacom you big dummy.  It comes as a cable package with everything else they own

No shit. I wasnt implying that only black people have access to those networks.

I just think its time to have a name change. Why do they have to preface it with black?

Its makes wholesome white folk embarrassed to watch.

Mom: what are you watching dear?

Me: BET mom

Mom: is that some type of gameshow network?

Me: No mom, its black entertainment television.

Mom: (blank stare)

[DanielPaul]

I tried to watch it but couldn't get into it, to much monkey business 

[TestDummy]

I watched most of the first episode, it was stupid, black shows are fucking retarded

[King Shizzo]

I watched most of the first episode, it was stupid, black shows are fucking retarded

They have a show called Blackish on one of the main networks. How did that pass the screen test?

[Archer77]

I watched most of the first episode, it was stupid, black shows are fucking retarded

A lot of yelling and jumping up and down

[King Shizzo]

A lot of yelling and jumping up and down

Funny they call the show "Empire". I don't think they ever had one.

[Archer77]

Funny they call the show "Empire". I don't think they ever had one.

From the previews, which I know don't say much, it reminded me of a gay hustle and flow.  Maybe that's why Goodrum likes it

[King Shizzo]

From the previews, which I know don't say much, it reminded me of a gay hustle and flow.  Maybe that's why Goodrum likes it

Speaking of Goodrum, I wonder why LOGO did not just call the network GAY instead? Would be the same concept as BET in my opinion.

[DanielPaul]

Funny they call the show "Empire". I don't think they ever had one.

don't tell wiggs cause apparently they built a bunch of fucking pyramids and maintained an advanced civilization like 10,000,000 years ago but haven't done shit since, must have hit a evolutional slump.

[Archer77]

Speaking of Goodrum, I wonder why LOGO did not just call the network GAY instead? Would be the same concept as BET in my opinion.

What does LOGO even stand for? 

[Princess L]

Why do you guys have channels Starz Black and BET? Sometimes I feel that black people segregate themselves.

Smart People like Morgan Freeman do not want specific months, or specific channels "set aside" for them.

You would never hear the end of it, if the WET (not a porn channel, white entertainment t.v.) network ever came out.

OWN is becoming another BET.  She should probably rename it the Tyler Perry Network.

The Haves and the Have Nots
Love Thy Neighbor
Raising Whitley
For Better Or For Worse
Welcome to Sweetie Pies
If Loving You is Wrong
Deion’s Family Playbook
Houston Beauty
6 Little McGhees
Mom’s Got Game
2 Fat 2 Fly

[Tapeworm]

Practical Machinist is pretty awesome, I also pop into Garage Journal (Garagejournal.com). Also https://www.youtube.com/user/oxtoolco and  
https://www.youtube.com/user/mrpete222/videos?view=0&sort=dd&shelf_id=0 .

Also the Popular Mechanics and Popular Science archives at google books -

 https://www.google.com/search?q=popular+mechanics&tbm=bks&tbo=1&oq=popula&gws_rd=ssl

https://www.google.com/search?q=popular+mechanics&tbm=bks&tbo=1&oq=popula&gws_rd=ssl#q=popular+science&tbm=bks .

I can't believe how many hours I've wasted there on purpose, and by accident.

I haven't looked at the Popular Mechanics/Science stuff before.  Just never got around to googling it up.  Thanks for the links.  Good to know they've got it all archived.

Yep, Tubalcain is wonderfully curmudgeonly!  Been meaning to get back to Ox some more.  Don't know him well but looks like a very skilled dude.  Also spent many an hour in awe of Keith Fenner.  One of these days I'll figure out how to download YouTube vids and save them.  I hate to think of this stuff blinking out of existence.

Yes you can use a vfd as a phase converter. The output will be 3 phase 240 V

Right on, Dude.  I gambled with a $100 bid at auction yesterday and came home with a 22kw rated unit.  Literature advised 3 phase input required, so I figured at the very least I'd have a nice controller between the generator and milling machine, but was hopeful it would open doors for me with single phase domestic supply.

If you wanted to be able to run it off domestic supply or 3-ph generator (I don't even know what the mill out there will draw but it's going to be at least 10 kw, so I figure I might have to feed that with the genny), would you just put a 3 phase male plug on the VFD and then adapt a single phase extension cord with a 3 phase female plug, then swap to the generator's 3 phase cord when needed?  

The manual is talking about the importance of grounding, earth leakage, etc.  I don't plan to remain clueless but I am at the moment so want to make sure grounding needs would be accommodated with a single phase cord's ground.  Also not sure if a male plug on the VFD would be really dumb if capacitors can discharge back through the supply plug and kill me.  I could opt to just hardwire, forget about putting the generator through the VFD (or this particular VFD), if plugging in invites disaster.

[That_Dude]

Assuming you have a 230v 3 phase 22kw vfd if you supplied it with 230 single phase you would de-rate the power by half. This would work ok at lower freq. Once you go higher (to speed the motor) the ripple voltage will be too high on the DC bus due to caps discharging faster than they can recharge to make maximum output possible, however you should still get about 90% of the max output frequency wise. If you are pla.ning to supply 120v your 230v unit would not work for you.

[SaintAnger]

Black people need to get their own media, their own business sector, and a code of conduct.

They never will.

[Tapeworm]

Assuming you have a 230v 3 phase 22kw vfd if you supplied it with 230 single phase you would de-rate the power by half. This would work ok at lower freq. Once you go higher (to speed the motor) the ripple voltage will be too high on the DC bus due to caps discharging faster than they can recharge to make maximum output possible, however you should still get about 90% of the max output frequency wise. If you are pla.ning to supply 120v your 230v unit would not work for you.

I'm in Aus so single phase input would be 230v.  3ph is 415v here so I'm hoping that's what will come out the other side.  The sticker on the unit says both input & output are 230v-480v so maybe it's something I program.  Obvious newb.  

I got the rating from a chart for different models (mine's a PDL electronics/Schneider Electric Microdrive Elite ME-46, 27kg weight) giving 22kw at 415v.  Stay away from the top 10% on the speed range?

PS - Except for the big mill most of my equipment is low draw.  2 lathes and a small mill ranging from 1.5HP-5HP.

[Obvious Gimmick]

Sounds like youre going ape over it

[CalvinH]

Sorry, I'm to busy watching Vikings

[DanielPaul]

Sorry, I'm to busy watching Vikings

whens the new season out?

[CalvinH]

whens the new season out?

Already two shows in.

[MCWAY]

Why do you guys have channels Starz Black and BET? Sometimes I feel that black people segregate themselves.

Smart People like Morgan Freeman do not want specific months, or specific channels "set aside" for them.

You would never hear the end of it, if the WET (not a porn channel, white entertainment t.v.) network ever came out.

The argument goes that most of TV is, by default, white entertainment TV.

[MCWAY]

Its the concept that bothers me.

Is it too far to suggest that it is reverse racism?

I wouldn't say that. I've heard a similar argument when people discuss historically black colleges and universities (HBCUs).