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how to cook steak
« on: February 27, 2015, 03:20:40 PM »

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Re: how to cook steak
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2015, 03:23:53 PM »

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Re: how to cook steak
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2015, 03:26:01 PM »

do you expect a wee toto abusing meat with a blowtorch?

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Re: how to cook steak
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2015, 04:10:34 PM »
20 pages, easy!   :D

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Re: how to cook steak
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2015, 09:00:48 AM »
Ideally dry or wet age in fridge for at least several days after buying. Make sure the steaks are at least 1.5 - 2 inches thick.

Take out of fridge 30 minutes or so before cooking. Lightly coat with olive oil and red wine, then rub with salt, pepper, garlic, and maybe a little powdered chilis and a bit of herbs.

Fill the pit outside with mesquite charcoal and a handful of a blend of various wood chips such as oak, hickory, pecan, apple, etc. Preferably chips that were soaked in whiskey and dried out. Use the charcoal that does NOT require lighter fluid.

Get the grill as hot as possible - preferably 650-700 degrees if possible. You can buy certain thermometers that you can place on the grill to measure the temp. Throw the steaks on once the coals are mostly white and glowing. Flip once after 3-4 minutes with tongs - don't puncture the meat. Take off after another 2-2.5 minutes on the other side, or until the temp is about 125-130. The outside should be seared and the inside rare to med rare.

Brush on a little melted herb butter (garlic, and a little cayenne and cilantro) and serve with red wine au jus after letting the meat sit at least 5 minutes before cutting and eating.
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Re: how to cook steak
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2015, 10:25:59 AM »
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Re: how to cook steak
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2015, 10:46:26 AM »
Leave it out for longer than 30 minutes, you want the entire steak to.be the same temperature.  Also I cook the steak for 30-45second on its side first, fat side down the get the fat a nice crispy finish.

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Re: how to cook steak
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2015, 10:53:25 AM »
Ideally dry or wet age in fridge for at least several days after buying. Make sure the steaks are at least 1.5 - 2 inches thick.

Take out of fridge 30 minutes or so before cooking. Lightly coat with olive oil and red wine, then rub with salt, pepper, garlic, and maybe a little powdered chilis and a bit of herbs.

Fill the pit outside with mesquite charcoal and a handful of a blend of various wood chips such as oak, hickory, pecan, apple, etc. Preferably chips that were soaked in whiskey and dried out. Use the charcoal that does NOT require lighter fluid.

Get the grill as hot as possible - preferably 650-700 degrees if possible. You can buy certain thermometers that you can place on the grill to measure the temp. Throw the steaks on once the coals are mostly white and glowing. Flip once after 3-4 minutes with tongs - don't puncture the meat. Take off after another 2-2.5 minutes on the other side, or until the temp is about 125-130. The outside should be seared and the inside rare to med rare.

Brush on a little melted herb butter (garlic, and a little cayenne and cilantro) and serve with red wine au jus after letting the meat sit at least 5 minutes before cutting and eating.
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Re: how to cook steak
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2015, 10:56:12 AM »
Leave it out for longer than 30 minutes, you want the entire steak to.be the same temperature.  Also I cook the steak for 30-45second on its side first, fat side down the get the fat a nice crispy finish.
Totally irrelevant.

In taste tests, I have been involved in, some have preferred the texture of a completely frozen steak and then cooked, to one that is thawed. 


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Re: how to cook steak
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2015, 11:16:34 AM »
Leave it out for longer than 30 minutes, you want the entire steak to.be the same temperature.  Also I cook the steak for 30-45second on its side first, fat side down the get the fat a nice crispy finish.

I'll put 'em on their sides if they're really thick like filets or really thick ribeyes or whatever. What's your favorite cut?
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Re: how to cook steak
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2015, 11:39:03 AM »
Ideally dry or wet age in fridge for at least several days after buying. Make sure the steaks are at least 1.5 - 2 inches thick.

Take out of fridge 30 minutes or so before cooking. Lightly coat with olive oil and red wine, then rub with salt, pepper, garlic, and maybe a little powdered chilis and a bit of herbs.

Fill the pit outside with mesquite charcoal and a handful of a blend of various wood chips such as oak, hickory, pecan, apple, etc. Preferably chips that were soaked in whiskey and dried out. Use the charcoal that does NOT require lighter fluid.

Get the grill as hot as possible - preferably 650-700 degrees if possible. You can buy certain thermometers that you can place on the grill to measure the temp. Throw the steaks on once the coals are mostly white and glowing. Flip once after 3-4 minutes with tongs - don't puncture the meat. Take off after another 2-2.5 minutes on the other side, or until the temp is about 125-130. The outside should be seared and the inside rare to med rare.

Brush on a little melted herb butter (garlic, and a little cayenne and cilantro) and serve with red wine au jus after letting the meat sit at least 5 minutes before cutting and eating.

Hellz no. Don't rub olive oil then put 600 degree heat to it. The oil will burn and give your steak and off flavor. Use canola Nd just grease the grates, not the steak itself. Don't out all that seasoning either. Again with 600+ degrees you are just torching the seasoning and creating an awful taste. All you want is a steak patted dry and a little salt.

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Re: how to cook steak
« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2015, 12:05:49 PM »
Hellz no. Don't rub olive oil then put 600 degree heat to it. The oil will burn and give your steak and off flavor. Use canola Nd just grease the grates, not the steak itself. Don't out all that seasoning either. Again with 600+ degrees you are just torching the seasoning and creating an awful taste. All you want is a steak patted dry and a little salt.

I dunno, it works for me, man. Steaks come out perfect. Of course I like a little char on the outside.

It's the same thing I see all the big steakhouses do on tv - sometimes their broilers are 900 or over 1000.

I should also mention that I eat my food much spicier than most people.

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Re: how to cook steak
« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2015, 01:05:30 PM »
Ideally dry or wet age in fridge for at least several days after buying. Make sure the steaks are at least 1.5 - 2 inches thick.

Take out of fridge 30 minutes or so before cooking. Lightly coat with olive oil and red wine, then rub with salt, pepper, garlic, and maybe a little powdered chilis and a bit of herbs.

Fill the pit outside with mesquite charcoal and a handful of a blend of various wood chips such as oak, hickory, pecan, apple, etc. Preferably chips that were soaked in whiskey and dried out. Use the charcoal that does NOT require lighter fluid.

Get the grill as hot as possible - preferably 650-700 degrees if possible. You can buy certain thermometers that you can place on the grill to measure the temp. Throw the steaks on once the coals are mostly white and glowing. Flip once after 3-4 minutes with tongs - don't puncture the meat. Take off after another 2-2.5 minutes on the other side, or until the temp is about 125-130. The outside should be seared and the inside rare to med rare.

Brush on a little melted herb butter (garlic, and a little cayenne and cilantro) and serve with red wine au jus after letting the meat sit at least 5 minutes before cutting and eating.

lol @ all this bullshit

A properly cooked steak needs none of this nonsense to taste great.

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Re: how to cook steak
« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2015, 01:20:22 PM »
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Re: how to cook steak
« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2015, 02:23:41 PM »
Leaving the steak get to room temperature is important. it's so it can be cooked evenly.  A cold steak will burn on the outside while raw in the middle. Number 1 mistake people who can't cook steak make. Also the crossfibres actin and myosin become looser when left to warm up the lactic acid is what makes the meat tender.

Favourite cuts are ribeye, rump, fillet, sirloin, topside, silverside then flank.  In that order.

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Re: how to cook steak
« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2015, 02:27:37 PM »
Leaving the steak get to room temperature is important. it's so it can be cooked evenly.  A cold steak will burn on the outside while raw in the middle. Number 1 mistake people who can't cook steak make. Also the crossfibres actin and myosin become looser when left to warm up the lactic acid is what makes the meat tender.

Favourite cuts are ribeye, rump, fillet, sirloin, topside, silverside then flank.  In that order.

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Re: how to cook steak
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Re: how to cook steak
« Reply #17 on: February 28, 2015, 02:31:27 PM »
http://www.seriouseats.com/2013/06/the-food-lab-7-old-wives-tales-about-cooking-steak.html

Myth #1: "You should let a thick steak rest at room temperature before you cook it."

The Theory: You want your meat to cook evenly from edge to center. Therefore, the closer it is to its final eating temperature, the more evenly it will cook. Letting it sit on the counter for 20 to 30 minutes will bring the steak up to room temperature—a good 20 to 25°F closer to your final serving temperature. In addition, the warmer meat will brown better because you don't need to waste energy from the pan to take the chill off of its surface.



The Reality: Let's break this down one issue at a time. First, the internal temperature. While it's true that slowly bringing a steak up to its final serving temperature will promote more even cooking, the reality is that letting it rest at room temperature accomplishes almost nothing.

To test this, I pulled a single 15-ounce New York strip steak out of the refrigerator, cut it in half, placed half back in the fridge, and the other half on a ceramic plate on the counter. The steak started at 38°F and the ambient air in my kitchen was at 70°F. I then took temperature readings of its core every ten minutes.

After the first 20 minutes—the time that many chefs and books will recommend you let a steak rest at room temperature—the center of the steak had risen to a whopping 39.8°F. Not even a full two degrees. So I let it go longer. 30 minutes. 50 minutes. 1 hour and 20 minutes. After 1 hour and 50 minutes, the steak was up to 49.6°F in the center. Still colder than the cold water comes out of my tap in the summer, and only about 13% closer to its target temperature of a medium-rare 130°F than the steak in the fridge.

You can increase the rate at which it warms by placing it on a highly conductive metal, like aluminum,* but even so, it'd take you at least an hour or so to get up to room temperature—an hour that would be better spent by, say, actively warming your steak sous-vide style in a beer cooler.

*protip: thaw frozen meat in an aluminum skillet to cut your thaw time in half!

After two hours, I decided I'd reached the limit of what is practical, and had gone far beyond what any book or chef recommends, so I cooked the two steaks side by side. For the sake of this test, I cooked them directly over hot coals until seared, then shifted them over to the cool side to finish.* Not only did they come up to their final temperature at nearly the same time (I was aiming for 130°F), but they also showed the same relative evenness of cooking, and they both seared at the same rate.

*Normally I'd start them on the cool side and finish them on the hot like in this recipe, but that method would have obscured the results of this test.

The cooking rate makes sense—after all, the room temperature-rested steak was barely any warmer on the inside than the fridged-steak, but what about the searing? The outer layer of the rested steak must be warm enough to make a difference, right?

    It takes five times more energy to convert a single gram of water into steam than it does to raise the temperature of that water all the way from ice cold to boiling hot.

Here's the issue: Steak can't brown until most of the moisture has evaporated from the layers of meat closest to the surface, and it takes a hell of a lot of energy to evaporate moisture. To put it in perspective. It takes five times more energy to convert a single gram of water into steam than it does to raise the temperature of that water all the way from ice cold to boiling hot. So when searing a steak, the vast majority of energy that goes into it is used to evaporate moisture from its surface layers. Next to that energy requirement, a 20, 30, or even 40 degree difference in the temperature of the surface of the meat is a piddling affair.

The Takeaway: Don't bother letting your steaks rest at room temperature. Rather, dry them very thoroughly on paper towels before searing. Or better yet, salt them and let them rest uncovered on a rack in the fridge for a night or two, so that their surface moisture can evaporate. You'll get much more efficient browning that way.

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Re: how to cook steak
« Reply #18 on: February 28, 2015, 02:32:45 PM »
Leaving the steak get to room temperature is important. it's so it can be cooked evenly.  A cold steak will burn on the outside while raw in the middle. Number 1 mistake people who can't cook steak make. Also the crossfibres actin and myosin become looser when left to warm up the lactic acid is what makes the meat tender.

Favourite cuts are ribeye, rump, fillet, sirloin, topside, silverside then flank.  In that order.
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Re: how to cook steak
« Reply #19 on: February 28, 2015, 02:33:37 PM »
Adonis has already dispelled all of these myths in previous threads.

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Re: how to cook steak
« Reply #20 on: February 28, 2015, 02:36:00 PM »
Adonis has already dispelled all of these myths in previous threads.
They just don`t like to listen I guess.

Almost all the "advice" posted is not really the best advice.  The high heat guy, for instance, like everyone else, probably won`t change his minds despite being incorrect.  Its an interesting aspect of some people's human nature.

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Re: how to cook steak
« Reply #21 on: February 28, 2015, 05:17:25 PM »
Thick steak, salt, pepper.  700 degrees, 60 seconds then turn 90 degrees, 60 seconds then flip, 60 turn 90, then 60 more.  Remove and eat.   :D

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Re: how to cook steak
« Reply #22 on: March 01, 2015, 08:25:21 AM »
I find you only need to sear for a few seconds per side when the pan is hot enough.  Better to do more flips, which gives more even browning.  60 seconds per side is pointless, IMO.

For a 1 inch steak, 15-30 seconds per side, couple flips, done.

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Re: how to cook steak
« Reply #23 on: March 01, 2015, 08:49:54 AM »
I find you only need to sear for a few seconds per side when the pan is hot enough.  Better to do more flips, which gives more even browning.  60 seconds per side is pointless, IMO.

For a 1 inch steak, 15-30 seconds per side, couple flips, done.

U DO ONE FLIP! ONE! Otherwise u need to restart the heating process everytime u flip it! ONE FLIP! ONE!

Fucking amateur! Cooking like a bitch! Fucking hate flipping bitches and stearing bitches! Leave the food alone! Minimal touch!


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Re: how to cook steak
« Reply #24 on: March 01, 2015, 08:54:14 AM »
How to cook steak...

1) Arrive at steak house
2) Be seated
3) Order steak
4) ???
5) Enjoy!