Muslim Logic

[Radical Plato]

[muscleman-2013]

El Diablo Wanko and Green Eyes getting desperate.

And yeah the crusades were NECESSARY.

[greeneyes]

The koran only contains a few references to violence. Guess against who? Those who doesn't want to give up their SLAVES and those who exploited the same slaves by loans at high interest and those providing them alcohol to soothe their crappy situation and at the same time, put them at the bottom. Mohammed has a good side but you don't know about it because they didn't want you to know and you never had a doubt about stories they feed you so you can learn more about the persona. Sure, he slept with a 9 yo girl, had alot of women and who didn't at the time? He even said to men to marry alot of women because of wars and what occured of men deaths, women became 3/4 of society. If you dig yourself in the greek culture that you seem to adore according to your nickname and avatar, pedophilie was there and never considered as something wrong. Just different civilisations, different wrong/right and sexual renoucements.

Now you come and tell me that Islam is responsible for whatever crimes LOL The west destroyed the west even after the crusades and caused MILLIONS AND MILLIONS of death in the first and the second world war. You are going to tell me the same shit again, it was against Hitler( which had nothing to do with islam). Right and what was the causes of the first world war? Definitely not the muslims, definitely another " Hitler".

The thing is you never left arabs, south americans, asians, country live in peace and always made up a story before taking it resources. Fucking unbelievable... There's more incitations to violence in alot of books and literature, which have it audience and fans ( crazy fans like the one that killed Lennon because he was "hugely influenced" by one book main character) than the koran.

Wake up my friend. ISIS is using americans arms, yes they are made in america and given by america. ISIS follows american plans and sure will not hesitate to kill an american ( maybe unwanted by US government maybe just a scapegoat). Ben Laden himself was formed by CIA against the URSS. Government is playing with you and will not hesitate to use you in a war, in an operation to justify existence of terror and will in the same time put a flower in your grave, drop a tear for your loss and continue to use you, six feet under the ground, for natural resources.

[Bobby]

links to cases where this has happened

Germar Rudolf
Jürgen Graf
Sylvia Stolz
Ernst Zundel
David Irving
Dr. Fredrick Töben
Bishop Richard Williamson

Hope this helps

[Kwon_2]

Crusades were necessary and we need a new crusade.

[devilsmile]

The koran only contains a few references to violence. Guess against who? Those who doesn't want to give up their SLAVES and those who exploited the same slaves by loans at high interest and those providing them alcohol to soothe their crappy situation and at the same time, put them at the bottom. Mohammed has a good side but you don't know about it because they didn't want you to know and you never had a doubt about stories they feed you so you can learn more about the persona. Sure, he slept with a 9 yo girl, had alot of women and who didn't at the time? He even said to men to marry alot of women because of wars and what occured of men deaths, women became 3/4 of society. If you dig yourself in the greek culture that you seem to adore according to your nickname and avatar, pedophilie was there and never considered as something wrong. Just different civilisations, different wrong/right and sexual renoucements.

Now you come and tell me that Islam is responsible for whatever crimes LOL The west destroyed the west even after the crusades and caused MILLIONS AND MILLIONS of death in the first and the second world war. You are going to tell me the same shit again, it was against Hitler( which had nothing to do with islam). Right and what was the causes of the first world war? Definitely not the muslims, definitely another " Hitler".

The thing is you never left arabs, south americans, asians, country live in peace and always made up a story before taking it resources. Fucking unbelievable... There's more incitations to violence in alot of books and literature, which have it audience and fans ( crazy fans like the one that killed Lennon because he was "hugely influenced" by one book main character) than the koran.

Wake up my friend. ISIS is using americans arms, yes they are made in america and given by america. ISIS follows american plans and sure will not hesitate to kill an american ( maybe unwanted by US government maybe just a scapegoat). Ben Laden himself was formed by CIA against the URSS. Government is playing with you and will not hesitate to use you in a war, in an operation to justify existence of terror and will in the same time put a flower in your grave, drop a tear for your loss and continue to use you, six feet under the ground, for natural resources.

words of wisdom and truth 

sadly most people can't see past their own arrogance, but I completely agree with you!

[visualizeperfection]

You seem to be overlooking the dark ages in between where catholosism brutally killed millions.

We live in a modern world now, friend.

[Radical Plato]

words of wisdom and truth 

sadly most people can't see past their own arrogance, but I completely agree with you!

Oh Brother, anybody who thinks that is wisdom is a truly ignorant individual of the highest level.  All that is is a sick justification for a perverse ideology and it's resultant unrestrained terrorist impulses.  It is top be expected of Islamic supporters though, incapable of accepting responsibility and enraged by more than justified criticisms.  You only need to look at the Muslim friendly posts in this thread to realize what a sick twisted and evil ideology Islam is.  You Muslim nutters keep pointing the finger of blame everywhere but where it belongs, squarely on yourselves, nobody else makes you look bad, you make yourselves look bad. 

The West is on to the sick Islamic ploy of accusing it's accusers of the same accusations being leveled at them, the truly critical finger can see though that West stands on the side of reason while the Islamic world stands deeply embedded in a deep rooted ignorance and arrogance..

[devilsmile]

Oh Brother, anybody who thinks that is wisdom is a truly ignorant individual of the highest level.  All that is is a sick justification for a perverse ideology and it's resultant unrestrained terrorist impulses.  It is top be expected of Islamic supporters though, incapable of accepting responsibility and enraged by more than justified criticisms.  You only need to look at the Muslim friendly posts in this thread to realize what a sick twisted and evil ideology Islam is.  You Muslim nutters keep pointing the finger of blame everywhere but where it belongs, squarely on yourselves, nobody else makes you look bad, you make yourselves look bad. 

The West is on to the sick Islamic ploy of accusing it's accusers of the same accusations being leveled at them, the truly critical finger can see though that West stands on the side of reason while the Islamic world stands deeply embedded in a deep rooted ignorance and arrogance..

I don't support islamists, I don't support isis's view of rule of the law. Hell even muslims are distressed By isis and the extrimists disguised in islam. And they are getting beheaded because of that, even they are muslims themselves. These muslims don't consider isis and the terrorists in general even human because they can't comprehend how on earth can a muslim act in such a way and speak in the name of god.

THat's the truth. greeneyes is spot on.

[Radical Plato]

I don't support islamists, I don't support isis's view of rule of the law. Hell even muslims are distressed By isis and the extrimists disguised in islam. And they are getting beheaded because of that, even they are muslims themselves. These muslims don't consider isis and the terrorists in general even human because they can't comprehend how on earth can a muslim act in such a way and speak in the name of god.

THat's the truth. greeneyes is spot on.

That's the problem, Muslims can't comprehend WHY?. Meanwhile every reasonable person from here to Timbucktoo can see it as plain as day.  It's a poisonous ideology called Islam.  Hope this helps.  This is like NAZIS saying, I don't understand why Hitler gassed the Jews.

[devilsmile]

That's the problem, Muslims can't comprehend WHY?. Meanwhile every reasonable person from here to Timbucktoo can see it as plain as day.  It's a poisonous ideology called Islam.  Hope this helps.  This is like NAZIS saying, I don't understand why Hitler gassed the Jews.

You can't comprehend that soooooooo many muslims oppose isis's ideology to the fullest, because they are muslims too. Your logic = all muslims = scum, is a false one.

I have a somali friend, and he said that mentioning isis with islam is crazy, because he thinks isis and what isis represents is completely opposite from islam. And that means everything.

[greeneyes]

Oh Brother, anybody who thinks that is wisdom is a truly ignorant individual of the highest level.  All that is is a sick justification for a perverse ideology and it's resultant unrestrained terrorist impulses.  It is top be expected of Islamic supporters though, incapable of accepting responsibility and enraged by more than justified criticisms.  You only need to look at the Muslim friendly posts in this thread to realize what a sick twisted and evil ideology Islam is.  You Muslim nutters keep pointing the finger of blame everywhere but where it belongs, squarely on yourselves, nobody else makes you look bad, you make yourselves look bad. 

The West is on to the sick Islamic ploy of accusing it's accusers of the same accusations being leveled at them, the truly critical finger can see though that West stands on the side of reason while the Islamic world stands deeply embedded in a deep rooted ignorance and arrogance..

Great way to use my own argument about the west accusing the islam of terror while they are the terror themselves.

I criticize Islam. Hell, I think even if Mohamed was alive now, he'll do. I know that there's probably no god and even if he was hiding somewhere in the sky, he wouldn't write Koran or the bible. But to make people believe you or follow you at the time, you need to bring god in the picture. And even with Charia ( god laws), laws and justice, hell, heaven, people will disobey and kill and slaughter.

 Islam was an important step in human rights and this is a thing I will never deny. You probably never read much to figure out that it gave women rights because at the time, girls were burried alive at birth. He gave them a share of inheritance, less than the man but that's understood. The sons are the one to be responsible for manual labors and the farm, it's not like a girl is strong enough for that. He worked for abolition of slaves and said to his people to not drink alcohol ( It's not forbidden as they want you to think) because he saw how it fucked with men mind and conducted them to behave in a way they will maybe regret. And this a long time ago, but here we are now forbidding alcohol and driving. He was the one to say " Educate your children even in china" which means that you all need to get education and know how to read and write, even if you have to go hundreds of miles for it.

So to resume Islam logic to violence, terror, rape is false. Koran was never that. Islam was never that at the time of Mohamed but once he was death, after a while some calliphates took people lands in the name of islam, the same what the west is doing now the name of democracy. Now Islam in arab countries can be resumed as : A tool to govern the mass, oppress the people and numb them.
Islam in other countries can be resumed as something else. Each state shape islam in a way that will bring to it elite more gain. For the west, now islam is terror, simply because it's for their interest.

[Erik C]

You can't comprehend that soooooooo many muslims oppose isis's ideology to the fullest, because they are muslims too. Your logic = all muslims = scum, is a false one.

I have a somali friend, and he said that mentioning isis with islam is crazy, because he thinks isis and what isis represents is completely opposite from islam. And that means everything.

If there are these "good" muslims, that are appalled by radical islamic terrorists, and consider them to be some kind of blasphemy against true islam, then why don't the "good" muslims do something about the terrorist claiming to be muslims? Police their own. Kill the terrorists that they claim to disavow, so that we don't eventually have to go to war, with all of islam, in a war of extermination, because of this "small" percentage of islamic terrorists.

[devilsmile]

If there are these "good" muslims, that are appalled by radical islamic terrorists, and consider them to be some kind of blasphemy against true islam, then why don't the "good" muslims do something about the terrorist claiming to be muslims? Police their own. Kill the terrorists that they claim to disavow, so that we don't eventually have to go to war, with all of islam, in a war of extermination, because of this "small" percentage of islamic terrorists.

from the same reasons you, me or anyone aren't taking over the government even tho we hate the system, am I right.

You don't understand that these muslims that I talk about, they are just like you and me. They smoke, they drink, they fuck hoes, they go to the gym, they party, they work, they go to school, they watch stupid movies, they hang out with all kinds of friends.... they don't have ak47's in their closet, just some clothes, trust me.

[greeneyes]

If there are these "good" muslims, that are appalled by radical islamic terrorists, and consider them to be some kind of blasphemy against true islam, then why don't the "good" muslims do something about the terrorist claiming to be muslims? Police their own. Kill the terrorists that they claim to disavow, so that we don't eventually have to go to war, with all of islam, in a war of extermination, because of this "small" percentage of islamic terrorists.

They does. Alot of countries concerned by terrorists are fighting them and here I'm talking about civilians. In Syria alot of people stood up to terrorist hand in hand of Bachar government that the west dislike and wanted to replace by another one. Syrians coexisted with christians, muslims and it was a peaceful country that made me as an arab, proud.
 But it's more than that, it's not a simple fight like you think. The terrorist has arms, a military, a plan made up by the west and oil that they sell and drugs money ( Which, if you notice is against Islam principles. ). This make them powerful. Here lays the problem. The help they got from the west.

[Erik C]

from the same reasons you, me or anyone aren't taking over the government even tho we hate the system, am I right.

You don't understand that these muslims that I talk about, they are just like you and me. They smoke, they drink, they fuck hoes, they go to the gym, they party, they work, they go to school, they watch stupid movies, they hang out with all kinds of friends.... they don't have ak47's in their closet, just some clothes, trust me.

I don't trust you, any more than I trust your muslim friends. If they don't like the muslim terrorists, then say so, out loud. If they don't want to take care of their muslim terrorist problem themselves, then they should demand that all governments, hunt down, and kill off, the muslim terrorists, that you claim that they despise so much. I hear no such demands from so called "moderate" muslims. So I believe that the only good muslim, is a dead muslim. I can't tell the "good" muslims from the bad ones. If the "good" muslims, won't speak out against the bad muslims, then they should all die. That solves the World's muslim terrorist problem, once and for all.

[devilsmile]

I don't trust you, any more than I trust your muslim friends. If they don't like the muslim terrorists, then say so, out loud. If they don't want to take care of their muslim terrorist problem themselves, then they should demand that all governments, hunt down, and kill off, the muslim terrorists, that you claim that they despise so much. I hear no such demands from so called "moderate" muslims. So I believe that the only good muslim, is a dead muslim. I can't tell the "good" muslims from the bad ones. If the "good" muslims, won't speak out against the bad muslims, then they should all die. That solves the World's muslim terrorist problem, once and for all.

Well then there's nothing to talk about. I told you the the truth. But you refuse to believe my word just out of principle since you have that much hate, you refuse to see pass your own arrogance.

But whatever. You disagree with me, I disagree with you. I explained why. You just said "no". Fine, can't go any further with this conversation.

[Erik C]

Well then there's nothing to talk about. I told you the the truth. But you refuse to believe my word just out of principle since you have that much hate, you refuse to see pass your own arrogance.

But whatever. You disagree with me, I disagree with you. I explained why. You just said "no". Fine, can't go any further with this conversation.

I asked you and your so called "good" muslim friends, to do something about the World wide threat of muslim terrorism. Put up or shut up! You and your "good" muslim friends are going to do nothing to stop muslim terrorism, so you are all part of the problem. RIP.

[greeneyes]

from the same reasons you, me or anyone aren't taking over the government even tho we hate the system, am I right.

You don't understand that these muslims that I talk about, they are just like you and me. They smoke, they drink, they fuck hoes, they go to the gym, they party, they work, they go to school, they watch stupid movies, they hang out with all kinds of friends.... they don't have ak47's in their closet, just some clothes, trust me.

Exactly. There's good muslims. I have muslim friends that prays sometimes, fasts,  and knows that I'm not muslim and we are still buddies. They know that not all of the people hold the same beliefs and a single belief cannot fit all people.
Radicals are like 0,0001 / 100 of the total population. I never had problems even in an islamic country, even with the average mohameds. I smoked one time in the mall, in a ramadan day, they didn't beheaded me. The last summer I was with a couple of buddies in the beach, ramadan again, an european guy was drinking whiskey and smoking. One of us had a lighter on him he gave it to him so he can smoke, even if the guy was fasting.

[greeneyes]

I asked you and your so called "good" muslim friends, to do something about the World wide threat of muslim terrorism. Put up or shut up! You and your "good" muslim friends are going to do nothing to stop muslim terrorism, so you are all part of the problem. RIP.

I told you that "good" muslims stood against terrorism. You just didn't see it or heard about it. CNN didn't talk about it, I guess. The government did his best in Syria, you didn't heard about it either. Oh you did but it was " Bachar the dictature and terrorist kills innocent rebels that only wants freedom" and the next year you heard " ISIS " and they weren't rebels anymore.

[devilsmile]

I asked you and your so called "good" muslim friends, to do something about the World wide threat of muslim terrorism. Put up or shut up! You and your "good" muslim friends are going to do nothing to stop muslim terrorism, so you are all part of the problem. RIP.

I'm white. There are several nazi and kkk organisations that don't represent my world view. If some black guy, who's family was killed By some of those whiteys told me that I am just as guilty in the murder because I'm white, I would tell him to lay off the crack pipe. You can't be serious! How are muslims, who live ordinary and peacefull lives- guilty of the terror that some other scum do?

[Erik C]

I'm white. There are several nazi and kkk organisations that don't represent my world view. If some black guy, who's family was killed By some of those whiteys told me that I am just as guilty in the murder because I'm white, I would tell him to lay off the crack pipe. You can't be serious! How are muslims, who live ordinary and peacefull lives- guilty of the terror that some other scum do?

If islam is their religion, and it is being taken over by muslim terrorists, then publicly denounce those muslim terrorists, or publicly renounce their faith in islam. If your so called "good" muslims, say nothing, do nothing, then I can only assume that they approve of the terrorist muslims, and that makes them my enemy, and I want to see every one of those stinking muslims dead.

[greeneyes]

I'm white. There are several nazi and kkk organisations that don't represent my world view. If some black guy, who's family was killed By some of those whiteys told me that I am just as guilty in the murder because I'm white, I would tell him to lay off the crack pipe. You can't be serious! How are muslims, who live ordinary and peacefull lives- guilty of the terror that some other scum do?

According to Eric, you are not a good white. You need to feel guilty, or better, proud of the crime and why not commit it and kill the black.

[devilsmile]

If islam is their religion, and it is being taken over by muslim terrorists, then publicly denounce those muslim terrorists, or publicly renounce their faith in islam. If your so called "good" muslims, say nothing, do nothing, then I can only assume that they approve of the terrorist muslims, and that makes them my enemy, and I want to see every one of those stinking muslims dead.

what are you talking about. Muslims speak against isis all the time, the mainstream just doesn't give any attention to it because people, no matter how awefull the news story is, will buy it if it's horrible enough. Mind conditioning much.

Here's one muslim speaking against isis

According to Eric, you are not a good white. You need to feel guilty, or better, proud of the crime and why not commit it and kill the black.

his way of thinking is frustrating to read  

[Erik C]

According to Eric, you are not a good white. You need to feel guilty, or better, proud of the crime and why not commit it and kill the black.

Don't put words in my mouth. I never said any such thing.