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Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
« Reply #100 on: March 17, 2015, 03:18:20 PM »












Yes you asked Noel.
You could ask big Ro for help he know & does what it takes to get in shape.

Looking at Eddie & his current body fat / test bloat levels,
I would say around 20wks max.
Possibly less time.
All depends how he responds to the step by step changes
& holds onto his muscle tissue.


What % BF would you say Eddie is right now?

20 weeks is a long ass time.

I wanna be ready in 12 weeks.

I am around 17% ish right now.

Hard to tell with test bloat.

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Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
« Reply #101 on: March 17, 2015, 03:19:46 PM »
You are confused aren't you.  although size can offer advantages some of the time there is a cut off point, being incredibly large is actually a disadvantage as the heart and lungs can't maintain the cardio needed for an intense fight situation.  Within a very short period of time such a fighters muscles will be fatigued and burning with lactic acid and the fighter then becomes extremely vulnerable and will be unable to defend himself properly. 

And fighters aren't just trying to increase strength for it's own sake, otherwise they would just all powerlift and become as big as they can, they are trying to increase their pound for pound strength and explosiveness, they are trying to become stronger for their size.  A pro fighter would never compromise other essential elements of his fighting game just to become stronger.

Your statement that size is a massive advantage in a fight is naive and wrong, like I said, it is actually a huge disadvantage.  But those with little to no fighting background continue to perpetuate this childish myth.

What's exactly your fighting background? Watching MMA on TV? ;D
I never said it was the only factor but having superior size and strength over an opponent is a significant advantage. I honestly don't know how anyone can dispute that.
Of course, there will come a point when a superior skill advantage will outweigh a size advantage but the same can be said vice versa.  

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Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
« Reply #102 on: March 17, 2015, 03:29:05 PM »
What % BF would you say Eddie is right now?

20 weeks is a long ass time.

I wanna be ready in 12 weeks.

I am around 17% ish right now.

Hard to tell with test bloat.












Hard to put a figure on Eddie as he has a lot of Test bloat.
20wks is a fair time.
12wks is do able. Depends on how dedicated & hard working on diet & training etc.
If your around 17% now that's not to bad.
Getting to single digits is going to need some tough 'Mental Attitude' in your time span
That is the Key ingredient.

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Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
« Reply #103 on: March 17, 2015, 03:43:54 PM »










Hard to put a figure on Eddie as he has a lot of Test bloat.
20wks is a fair time.
12wks is do able. Depends on how dedicated & hard working on diet & training etc.
If your around 17% now that's not to bad.
Getting to single digits is going to need some tough 'Mental Attitude' in your time span
That is the Key ingredient.


Exactly right and what do you think that "mental attitude" stems from?
In my opinion it stems from desire or a want or willingness to succeed in your goal no matter what.
The issue is when you have multiple desires and goals which conflict against each other.

For example. I want to make 300k this year (just hypothetical numbers not important)
In order for me to do that I need to work 16 hours a day, go through bunch of mental strain and pressure, react to opportunities at any given time.
So I grab that can of coke, fixated by numbers on my computer screen, why? Cos I will do anything to succeed in my goal to make that money.

BUT....now I also want to be 10% BF on the beach by summer to enjoy the fruits of my labor.
But you see it conflicts against my other life goals.
Something has to give right????

That is why it so tough to focus on multiple goals which often have conflicting scenarios and lifestyle choices.

 

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Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
« Reply #104 on: March 17, 2015, 03:57:06 PM »


- about the 9:00 min mark Mariusz taps to strikes, fucking pathetic, and Tim Sylvia was a washed up can at his point.

Interesting! Mariusz was gassed bad though and could barely stand up there
tank u jesus

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Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
« Reply #105 on: March 17, 2015, 04:04:41 PM »
Exactly right and what do you think that "mental attitude" stems from?
In my opinion it stems from desire or a want or willingness to succeed in your goal no matter what.
The issue is when you have multiple desires and goals which conflict against each other.

For example. I want to make 300k this year (just hypothetical numbers not important)
In order for me to do that I need to work 16 hours a day, go through bunch of mental strain and pressure, react to opportunities at any given time.
So I grab that can of coke, fixated by numbers on my computer screen, why? Cos I will do anything to succeed in my goal to make that money.

BUT....now I also want to be 10% BF on the beach by summer to enjoy the fruits of my labor.
But you see it conflicts against my other life goals.
Something has to give right????

That is why it so tough to focus on multiple goals which often have conflicting scenarios and lifestyle choices.

 












Yes you are correct.
Being focused on the goal of making that £ & having to put them hrs in
Is going to make it tough to stick to a diet plan & get the training in.
Very tough to achieve both But not impossible.

Go after the £ & maybe reduce your physique goals for this year
Or until you reach your financial goal.

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Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
« Reply #106 on: March 17, 2015, 04:43:16 PM »
No.  I don't have fistfights anymore, ni66a I'm grown.

I would have a dick measuring contest with him though if he wanted.

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Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
« Reply #107 on: March 17, 2015, 06:34:10 PM »
Nope! Here is what would happen if I did



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Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
« Reply #108 on: March 17, 2015, 10:21:50 PM »

I never said it was the only factor but having superior size and strength over an opponent is a significant advantage. I honestly don't know how anyone can dispute that.

I can't believe how anyone can believe the way you do other than someone being young and naive.  I posted half a dozen videos were a giant had a huge advantage in size and strength in a fight and yet got his arse handed too him. Where was this significant advantage you talk about for these giants?  What proof would it take for you to abandon your flawed belief system?  Or does believing that being big is all it takes to be a good fighter mean too much to you.  Cain Velasquez is a small heavy weight and still has dominated the biggest heavyweights in the division.  I have personally witnessed many bigger men get their arse handed too them by much smaller men.
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Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
« Reply #109 on: March 18, 2015, 03:48:33 AM »
I can't believe how anyone can believe the way you do other than someone being young and naive.  I posted half a dozen videos were a giant had a huge advantage in size and strength in a fight and yet got his arse handed too him. Where was this significant advantage you talk about for these giants?  What proof would it take for you to abandon your flawed belief system?  Or does believing that being big is all it takes to be a good fighter mean too much to you.  Cain Velasquez is a small heavy weight and still has dominated the biggest heavyweights in the division.  I have personally witnessed many bigger men get their arse handed too them by much smaller men.

Holy shit you are dense! I never said that size is the only factor in a fight but I said it plays a significant factor – hence the requirement for weight classes.
Yes, I’ve seen those videos you posted and I could easily post hundreds of videos in which a bigger guy beats the crap out of a smaller opponent to counter it. ::)

Of course, as I’ve already said, a smaller guy can beat a bigger guy if the skill difference between the two outweighs the size difference (Fedor Vs Zuluzinho) but there also eventually comes a point where the size and strength difference can outweigh any skill difference. For instance, put a top MW champion against a fairly average HW, the HW would still be favourite to win due to his superior mass and strength. The only way the MW would win is if the skill difference between the two is vast enough to compensate for the size disparity.

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Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
« Reply #110 on: March 18, 2015, 03:52:38 AM »
always love watching this



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Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
« Reply #111 on: March 18, 2015, 04:40:21 AM »
fight was stopped pre maturely though ^^

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Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
« Reply #112 on: March 18, 2015, 07:23:36 AM »
yea why didn't that continue, he wasn't knocked out
fight was stopped pre maturely though ^^

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Re: 462kg deadlift
« Reply #113 on: March 18, 2015, 09:13:18 AM »
straps = NOT a legit Deadlift

Eddie is a strongman not powerlifter like Andy Bolton. Nobody said it was done under powerlifting rules. The man deadlifted 462kg and your bitching about straps ::)

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Re: 462kg deadlift
« Reply #114 on: March 18, 2015, 09:29:40 AM »
Andy Bolton must be getting past it, he failed at a weight Eddie hit for 2 reps at the euro


Love the experts dismissing it because of straps, not as tho he was benching with a triple plye bench shirt, he physically lifted that weight off the ground

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Re: 462kg deadlift
« Reply #115 on: March 18, 2015, 10:09:49 AM »
Bolton is getting older and is a bit torn up.

Benni, too, is getting a bit older, and has been getting his fair share of injures. Also, he's settling down, and not wanting to add bodyweight like when he was younger.

I don't think we'll see another relatively large jump in the deadlift for a while, and when we do, it will be on the strongman side. There are a number in the #900+ range, and bodywise,  they've got the builds to add more size comfortably.

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Re: 462kg deadlift
« Reply #116 on: March 18, 2015, 01:53:16 PM »
I was there, right next to Arnold and can tell you it was an incredible lift. The plates are calibrated and by strongman rules it was 100% legit and a new record. He has done 480 in training and I predict that he will be the first human to deadlift 500kg in the near future.

It was a really exciting and entertaining lift and Arnold talked about it all weekend. Ed is a solid dude.

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Re: 462kg deadlift
« Reply #117 on: March 18, 2015, 02:00:04 PM »
Eddie is a strongman not powerlifter like Andy Bolton. Nobody said it was done under powerlifting rules. The man deadlifted 462kg and your bitching about straps ::)

Exzactly.. ^    A double  ::) ::)

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Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
« Reply #118 on: March 18, 2015, 02:32:44 PM »
fight was stopped pre maturely though ^^















Why was it stopped so quick.
Did he tap out & I missed it.

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Re: 462kg deadlift
« Reply #119 on: March 18, 2015, 05:44:03 PM »
are there separate records for a deadlift with straps and one without?

Eddie is a strongman not powerlifter like Andy Bolton. Nobody said it was done under powerlifting rules. The man deadlifted 462kg and your bitching about straps ::)

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Re: 462kg deadlift
« Reply #120 on: March 18, 2015, 05:51:42 PM »
are there separate records for a deadlift with straps and one without?


No, it's more of a very new thing, but it seems to be catching on with the strong man set. I've only seen the term "Strongman Deadlift" in the last couple of years.

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Re: 462kg deadlift
« Reply #121 on: March 19, 2015, 10:53:29 AM »
I was there, right next to Arnold and can tell you it was an incredible lift. The plates are calibrated and by strongman rules it was 100% legit and a new record. He has done 480 in training and I predict that he will be the first human to deadlift 500kg in the near future.

It was a really exciting and entertaining lift and Arnold talked about it all weekend. Ed is a solid dude.

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New record for Strongman.

Anyone who has pulled heavy weight knows straps make a significant difference.

Silver back gorilla strength any way you look at it.


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Re: Eddie Hall - New record - 462 kg or 1018 lbs deadlift
« Reply #122 on: March 19, 2015, 10:56:39 AM »
Straps or no Straps.. the Man lifted more than i ever will. STRONG

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Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
« Reply #123 on: March 19, 2015, 10:57:54 AM »
yea why didn't that continue, he wasn't knocked out
that's Fedors brother. total badass

he would have been KO'd either way. cakewalk for Alexander..


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Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
« Reply #124 on: March 19, 2015, 01:35:00 PM »
that's Fedors brother. total badass

he would have been KO'd either way. cakewalk for Alexander..



Alex was probably half drunk and/or hung over.  That dude can throw hands with bad intentions.  I like how calm he is like he juts doesn't give a shit.


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